JuveJay

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I doubt it. They try to sign good players, i.e. Sneijder, Pastore, etc. Just that none of these players would want to join them, cause there not established enough, they'll have to pay the players a level below the "world class" bracket lot's of $$$$$$ in order to join, kind of like Man city a few years ago, although they sign a lot of average players for a lot anyway.
Amauri, Sissoko, perfect for them. So far they've signed a bunch of has-beens and never weres.
 

Lucky Luke

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6-8 Amauri
12-14 Melo although i dont want to
0-1 Grygera
loan Martinez :(
5-7 Sissoko
3-4 Iaquinta
0 Toni but he wont leave
0 Grosso
3-4 for Marrone,Giandonato,Pasquato,Ekdal,Almiron combined
 

ZoSo

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Juventus director general Beppe Marotta will be looking to sell 11 players before the transfer window closes, according to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

Amauri
Felipe Melo
Marco Motta
Zdenek Grygera
Jorge Martinez
Momo Sissoko
Vincenzo Iaquinta
Luca Toni
Luca Marrone
Albin Ekdal
Sergio Almiron.

No Grosso? :D
Wouldn't it be wise to keep Toni? We need to have at least 1 big target man (Matri is 6'0, same as Quagliarella - Toni is 6'4). Toni is by far the better player out of Iaquinta, Amauri and Toni. He would probably get the lowest price for selling and probably has the lowest wage out of those three. He did much more than Iaquinta and Amauri combined in his half season.

Or maybe I'm just a bit of a fanboy of the real stars of the 2006 WC team.
 

Cronios

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No one will buy Toni or offer him the salary we do and we cannot release without compensating him, i think that we will keep him too.

Nope, but i sure start liking this guy!

Its sad to see that Marotta wants to sell 11 players and he let half the transfer window gone n waste, without selling anyone...
or at least use them as bargain chips!

The one thing i was afraid of him the most, would be that he will be unable to go past our lack of prestige and will be able to sell some of the Secco junk, for at least half of the capital we have invested.

But i m afraid the situation is much worse than that, way much worse than that, apart from the fact that he cant make any decent income, he also cant avoid selling some of the players who could offer some decent services, even as depth (Melo) in order to minimize capital loses.
And even worse he should at leeeeast stop wasting cash on new Tiagos, Almirons and Martinez, unfortunately Marotta has been proved even worse than my worst fears, he has reached Secco status!!
 

JCK

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Marotta reaching deals with clubs for selling these players is piss easy. We can sell them at a discount price and still it will be a positive thing. The biggest problem or actually the only problem is these players accepting the deals the other clubs offer them. None of them wants to go to Turkey nor Greece nor Russia. The Other teams that are willing to take them are mid-table Spanish teams and the players won't go there because these team offer them a lot less wages.
So in the end, it is not entirely Marotta to blame if these players aren't sold.
 

Cronios

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True that, in an extend though:

Amauri - still young enough to make a 10mil profit, salary was Secco's fault
Felipe Melo - No need to hurry to sell him, as he was one of our best
Marco Motta - 100% Marotta's fault
Zdenek Grygera - he wascheap/ free anyway
Jorge Martinez - 1000% Marotta's fault
Momo Sissoko - i reckon its hard to please his salary requirements
Vincenzo Iaquinta - Secco's fault
Luca Toni - 1,000,000 Marotta's fault, since we already had a situation on our hands
Luca Marrone - bargain chip?
Albin Ekdal - why sell him? it wont be hard anyways...
Sergio Almiron. - Secco's fault
 

JCK

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There is no need to sell Toni if Iaquinta and Amauri are sold. Motta can be sold as he is young and he wants to have a lengthy contract to assure his future. The only player that was bought by Marotta that can cause some trouble is Martinez.
 

Bianconero_Aus

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Marotta reaching deals with clubs for selling these players is piss easy. We can sell them at a discount price and still it will be a positive thing. The biggest problem or actually the only problem is these players accepting the deals the other clubs offer them. None of them wants to go to Turkey nor Greece nor Russia. The Other teams that are willing to take them are mid-table Spanish teams and the players won't go there because these team offer them a lot less wages.
So in the end, it is not entirely Marotta to blame if these players aren't sold.
Which is why I dont blame Marotta for any of this.

Besides a few dud purchases Marotta has made, Secco for the most part signed absolute trash and there is so much of it in our team and it is hard to get rid of. If Marotta can get rid of even half of those players this summer Ill be pleased.

And of course Cronios didnt criticise Grygera who was a Moggi signing. I'd much rather have Toni in our team than Grygera, in fact I think Toni can come in handy this season.
 

Bianconero_Aus

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I don't understand the context of it at all, I guess this was in the Rossi thread?
Joe and Andy were trading insults in the Rossi thread about each other's nationality and sexuality, with the usual unimaginative "your dads a faggot leechfuck", "fuck you rossi lover faggot", "you stupid fucking american etc" type comments. Then Joe forms a theory/opinion that Bjerknes is a redneck, white-trash farmer and then he throws out the infamous harvest me some wheat line.
 

Cronios

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I dont blame Marotta for any of this.
Besides a few dud purchases Marotta has made, Secco for the most part signed absolute trash and there is so much of it in our team and it is hard to get rid of. If Marotta can get rid of even half of those players this summer Ill be pleased.

And of course Cronios didnt criticise Grygera who was a Moggi signing. I'd much rather have Toni in our team than Grygera, in fact I think Toni can come in handy this season.
Grygera was brought for free and we are not overpaying for his salary, there is no capital loss there, but we have spent money to buy Motta and Martinez and overpaid Toni's salary, to secure his services. There will be a capital loss if we sell Motta+Martinez for less, or forced to pay Toni's clause to release him.
We made compromises we shouldnt and we made them just now, after already knowing how bad the situation is, after repeating those tragic mistakes so many times.
We should learn smth from our mistakes and try to avoid them. Marotta was brought just because of that and committed the very same mistakes we hired him to fix.
There is no need to sell Toni if Iaquinta and Amauri are sold. Motta can be sold as he is young and he wants to have a lengthy contract to assure his future. The only player that was bought by Marotta that can cause some trouble is Martinez.
True, thats my view on the matter as well. I even used the same words before, for the forward situation. BUT if Marotta chooses to do otherwise, then its his choice and responsibility, isnt it?

As for Motta, we just bought him for a total fee of 5mil, if we intend to sell him, it means that we plan to make a profit, otherwise it wouldnt make sense to buy him and sell him in a month...
So its up to Marotta to prove if this was a wise move or not, depending on the sale fee or price cut value as a bargain chip perhaps.
 

JuveJay

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Joe and Andy were trading insults in the Rossi thread about each other's nationality and sexuality, with the usual unimaginative "your dads a faggot leechfuck", "fuck you rossi lover faggot", "you stupid fucking american etc" type comments. Then Joe forms a theory/opinion that Bjerknes is a redneck, white-trash farmer and then he throws out the infamous harvest me some wheat line.
:lol: :lol:
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Amauri - still young enough to make a 10mil profit, salary was Secco's fault
Last year of his contract makes the price lower. Amauri will be an excellent player for the small teams and they should pay 10m eur to get him, but being 31 year old in his last contractual year and having huge wages (over 4m eur) makes it impossible to sell him now for 10m euro. Selling him for 7m will be a success, not just for Marotta but for every director.

Felipe Melo - No need to hurry to sell him, as he was one of our best
Definitely.
If an offer around 18-20m eur comes then we should sell him, but for some silly offer closer to 10m eur it will be silly to sell. Whatever the disagreement between Juve and Melo is, try to settle it and keep Melo.
 

ZoSo

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If Marotta manages to sell Amauri to anybody above €6-7m I will say he is at least a decent GM. If I tried to sell Amauri to somebody I wouldn't be able to because first I would be lying by saying he is a good player and number two for laughing the whole time at the thought of somebody buying Amauri.
 

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