I'd like to see the actual #'s too
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Not necessarily. If they are rich it doesn't have to mean they overpay and plus we're supposed to be a top team, so we shouldn't be comparing Juventus with Livorno or some other mid table club.
Kompany signed for City for £6 million
Vermaelen to Arsenal for €12 million
van der Vaart was an option
We had a first option on Ivanovic
Alvaro Pereira was a very good option after seeing his Uruguay matches. He went to Porto for less than 5mln euros while Rodriguez was missed too
The list can only go on. Instead of buying those we've decided to sign Martinez for 12 while Chicharito signed for Manchester
Exactly...
Kompany signed for City for £6 million
Vermaelen to Arsenal for €12 million
van der Vaart was an option
We had a first option on Ivanovic
Alvaro Pereira was a very good option after seeing his Uruguay matches. He went to Porto for less than 5mln euros while Rodriguez was missed too
The list can only go on. Instead of buying those we've decided to sign Martinez for 12 while Chicharito signed for Manchester
Exactly...
What I don't get JJ, is that if we had a limited budget like everyone says we did, why did we have to draft in a new team and a half? Diego, Giovinco and Trez weren't exactly deadwood either. In fact, I believe had the former two gotten a fair shot this season, they could very well have been part of the new core. Gio especially. I think it's a fallacy to believe that Marrotta tried hard with the funds at his disposal, because anyone who was a little wiser, would've started by first seeing what he had available to him already, and then allocate funds appropriately. Had we spent half of what we spent in the summer, on two spectacular fullbacks, and retained two of Diego, Gio and Trez, we would've still been miles ahead of where we are now. What the visionary did instead was clean out everything in sight, assuming that there wasn't enough quality for the objective he had in mind. And what hurts us most right now, is that he believes this team and coach needs time. Had he felt the same way, when he first came, we perhaps wouldve been more Juventus and less Sampdoria.
They play in France and Portugal.
All I seem to read about is all these 'great' (a baseless adjective used far too much) players who we should sign, and these great scouts, and great everything else. If we don't sign many players from abroad is that the fault of our scouts? Not one bit. It comes down the philosophy of the club. And next, people will draw up lists of non-EU players saying why didn't we sign them like non-Italian teams.
All I seem to read about is all these 'great' (a baseless adjective used far too much) players who we should sign, and these great scouts, and great everything else. If we don't sign many players from abroad is that the fault of our scouts? Not one bit. It comes down the philosophy of the club. And next, people will draw up lists of non-EU players saying why didn't we sign them like non-Italian teams.
Chicarito or Krasic, choose. Plus Man Utd had been tracking him for ages, he's going to choose us over them? You need to factor a few things in before fantasy moves.
If we are taking rumours into the equation I don't think much more can be discussed. It's fantasy FM time.
The reason I asked Trezegol17 to namecheck was because it's very easy to do it, as if that means we can sign them and they will be equally successful here. Football is that simple, really.
If we are taking rumours into the equation I don't think much more can be discussed. It's fantasy FM time.
The reason I asked Trezegol17 to namecheck was because it's very easy to do it, as if that means we can sign them and they will be equally successful here. Football is that simple, really.
So what? You wanna be a squad full of Italians? That is terrible, especially if you tell a legend like Trez that he's not needed anymore and add a reason cause he's not Italian.
And yes, it's our scouts fault. You wanna say you wouldn't sign some kickass player from Portugal/France because you had a 12mln Martinez available in Catania?
Fine, we didn't have money - why didn't we go after Rakitic? Fine, people want Italians - why didn't we sign Cassano?
And it's a known fact that our scouts suck, especially after Calciopoli. And yes, Lyon/Porto have the best ones while Ajax/Partizan have the best youth schools.
This is the first time I hear they've been tracking him for ages. I heard that WC pushed the whole deal.
Chicarito or Krasic? Chicarito. And take that from me - Serb.
That is the problem. Italians always say how they need experience and it's where everything falls apart. Nobody waited for Messi, Ronaldo, Chicarito, Pastore, Hamsik and tons of others to develop. They are those who bring club to a bigger level even if they are 18 years old.
And yes, it's our scouts fault. You wanna say you wouldn't sign some kickass player from Portugal/France because you had a 12mln Martinez available in Catania?
Fine, we didn't have money - why didn't we go after Rakitic? Fine, people want Italians - why didn't we sign Cassano?
And it's a known fact that our scouts suck, especially after Calciopoli. And yes, Lyon/Porto have the best ones while Ajax/Partizan have the best youth schools.
This is the first time I hear they've been tracking him for ages. I heard that WC pushed the whole deal.
Chicarito or Krasic? Chicarito. And take that from me - Serb.
That is the problem. Italians always say how they need experience and it's where everything falls apart. Nobody waited for Messi, Ronaldo, Chicarito, Pastore, Hamsik and tons of others to develop. They are those who bring club to a bigger level even if they are 18 years old.
No.
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No I don't think it is, for the reasons I explained. Do they sit on the beach drinking margaritas, or pick the worst players and then send reports back to Marotta? 'Kickass' being another baseless word, I'd look to sign any good players who are non-EU within budget.
Marotta's choice.
See previous point. Ajax and Partizan, we should be more like them. If we want to be a feeder club.
Yes the WC did, but they'd tracked him for some time. On his FB page it even says since October 2009 they had been aware, once he started scoring loads for Chivas. It doesn't take great scouting to notice that, but if you want to take the risk and have no non-EU issues then it's worth it.
OK, so no Krasic this season.
Well we can be like Napoli or Palermo and take 3-4 years to see them develop whilst being unsure of our league finish, as I said to Andy, maybe our best bet now. Any comparison to Man Utd or Barcelona in terms of adding young talent to already strong and consistently winning squads is extremely loose at best. And you are talking about Messi and Ronaldo here, future legendary players. We could have made moves like that pre-Farsopoli because we used to have that standing, but not after. That's what we should have done under Secco. Looking at Marotta I'm not really sure he was trying to do, create a strong team ethic around national players? It hasn't really worked, we are too short on quality on the pitch and the bench.
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No I don't think it is, for the reasons I explained. Do they sit on the beach drinking margaritas, or pick the worst players and then send reports back to Marotta? 'Kickass' being another baseless word, I'd look to sign any good players who are non-EU within budget.
Marotta's choice.
See previous point. Ajax and Partizan, we should be more like them. If we want to be a feeder club.
Yes the WC did, but they'd tracked him for some time. On his FB page it even says since October 2009 they had been aware, once he started scoring loads for Chivas. It doesn't take great scouting to notice that, but if you want to take the risk and have no non-EU issues then it's worth it.
OK, so no Krasic this season.
Well we can be like Napoli or Palermo and take 3-4 years to see them develop whilst being unsure of our league finish, as I said to Andy, maybe our best bet now. Any comparison to Man Utd or Barcelona in terms of adding young talent to already strong and consistently winning squads is extremely loose at best. And you are talking about Messi and Ronaldo here, future legendary players. We could have made moves like that pre-Farsopoli because we used to have that standing, but not after. That's what we should have done under Secco. Looking at Marotta I'm not really sure he was trying to do, create a strong team ethic around national players? It hasn't really worked, we are too short on quality on the pitch and the bench.
