Oct 3, 2004
1,121
Juventus fans this summer come in two majorities, and one minority:

Majorities:
1.) Marotta is a clown and has no f*cking clue what he is doing. His transfers are ridiculous from acquiring poor calibre players such as Padoin and Peluso, to over-paying for average players like Roberto Pereyra. He will never be able to attract top calibre players, and is very limited in his bargaining and scouting capabilities and will eventually lead this club to another 7th place finish. His incompetence was mainly highlighted this year when he could not properly replace Andrea Pirlo with an injury prone Khedira, and let's not even start talking about who Vidal's successor will be. The proof is in the pudding- Antonio Conte, a natural born winner left the club because of his commitment to signing mediocre players.

2.) Marotta is a God. He fixed the club with useful players like Boriello, when he was needed, signed Mirko Vucinic while he was still in his prime, acquired Carlos Tevez to elevate Juventus to the next level for serious CL competitiveness, scouted and acquired Vidal who turned out to be one of the world's best DMC's. He got Pirlo on a free transfer, who against all expectations experienced the form of his life, even taking his game to the next level for the Italian NT. Marotta should be credited for master-minding Juve's successful come-back era from dominating Italian football to 2014/2015's double-winning + CL final season! Yes he may have his faults, but has taken Juventus to a higher level in both Italy and Europe. Trust his judgment to continue in this path.


Minority fans:

3.) Marotta is neither a God nor a failure. He has his pro's and con's. He's signed flops and superstars. 2014/2015 summer is a transition period, and Juventus were unfortunate to experience key injuries to players in the summer. His mercato wasn't that bad, and managed to replace Pirlo with a creative midfielder in Hernanes considering Khedira will not likely feature as much we expected. Allegri took a gamble with Padoin(!!) as regista which clearly failed. He acquired Dybala, one of World football's most exciting prospects in attack, clearly in a World where there is scarcity in top-class forwards (Man United's overpaying for Martial suggests a scream of desperation, anyone???? ). The only failure Marotta did was failing to replace Arturo Vidal. The jury is out there on Lemina, and time will tell whether or not Hernanes will rekindle his Lazio form. All in all, injuries or not, this is a completely new-look Juventus almost starting from scratch. It will take a while for the side to gel, but they'll get their act together. Be patient.



That is all. Discuss. :)
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
Juventus fans this summer come in two majorities, and one minority:

Majorities:
1.) Marotta is a clown and has no f*cking clue what he is doing. His transfers are ridiculous from acquiring poor calibre players such as Padoin and Peluso, to over-paying for average players like Roberto Pereyra. He will never be able to attract top calibre players, and is very limited in his bargaining and scouting capabilities and will eventually lead this club to another 7th place finish. His incompetence was mainly highlighted this year when he could not properly replace Andrea Pirlo with an injury prone Khedira, and let's not even start talking about who Vidal's successor will be. The proof is in the pudding- Antonio Conte, a natural born winner left the club because of his commitment to signing mediocre players.

2.) Marotta is a God. He fixed the club with useful players like Boriello, when he was needed, signed Mirko Vucinic while he was still in his prime, acquired Carlos Tevez to elevate Juventus to the next level for serious CL competitiveness, scouted and acquired Vidal who turned out to be one of the world's best DMC's. He got Pirlo on a free transfer, who against all expectations experienced the form of his life, even taking his game to the next level for the Italian NT. Marotta should be credited for master-minding Juve's successful come-back era from dominating Italian football to 2014/2015's double-winning + CL final season! Yes he may have his faults, but has taken Juventus to a higher level in both Italy and Europe. Trust his judgment to continue in this path.


Minority fans:

3.) Marotta is neither a God nor a failure. He has his pro's and con's. He's signed flops and superstars. 2014/2015 summer is a transition period, and Juventus were unfortunate to experience key injuries to players in the summer. His mercato wasn't that bad, and managed to replace Pirlo with a creative midfielder in Hernanes considering Khedira will not likely feature as much we expected. Allegri took a gamble with Padoin(!!) as regista which clearly failed. He acquired Dybala, one of World football's most exciting prospects in attack, clearly in a World where there is scarcity in top-class forwards (Man United's overpaying for Martial suggests a scream of desperation, anyone???? ). The only failure Marotta did was failing to replace Arturo Vidal. The jury is out there on Lemina, and time will tell whether or not Hernanes will rekindle his Lazio form. All in all, injuries or not, this is a completely new-look Juventus almost starting from scratch. It will take a while for the side to gel, but they'll get their act together. Be patient.



That is all. Discuss. :)
Not a clown neither a god. They took a gamble changing the core Team.

Biggest Marotta mistake: he doesn't talk with the mánager about transfer. If you have a new mánager or a looser mánager is ok. But after conte 3 tittles and allegri almost perfect year, he should do It.

Imo should be a balance. Not LVG MUN way neither florentino almigthy.

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Won't he sit on the tribune all season now?
We are talking about LVG. Anything could happen
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,684
^^

Man Utd managed to keep their best player despite clearly wanting to leave and his contract was all most up.

This is something we should learn from, this and the Rooney incident
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
About Rooney Pre-LVG era, I'm with u.

About deals like de gea or lewandowsky style, no. Palermo and Porto r good examples, they got a lot of money for dybala and AS in last year contract.
 
Jan 5, 2011
1,978
So double a player salary is something our manager should learn, Even When that player refused to train a whole summer? From what i see, Dea gea agreed to sign new deal because he is frozen from a squad, when Euro 2016 is near. Manu manager also wants him to sign because afraid of losing him for free (whilr money is not their issue when they paid 56mil for a 19years old kid). If Marotta acted like this it is a big disgrace for our club.

^^

Man Utd managed to keep their best player despite clearly wanting to leave and his contract was all most up.

This is something we should learn from, this and the Rooney incident
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
Midfield is something we were so proud about and now we look so mediocre that its embarrasing. Two losses, Pirlo and Vidal reduced the quality significantly.
 

electricRoo

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2011
842
Midfield is something we were so proud about and now we look so mediocre that its embarrasing. Two losses, Pirlo and Vidal reduced the quality significantly.
Exactly. And some people disagreed when I said our midfield looked pedestrian now. Marotta's work was terrible, instead of identifying 3 or 4 great players to cover the 3 exits, he bought like 20 players with no rhyme or reason.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
so how about selling the top playmakers, box to box midfielder and strikers in the world and replacing them with some benchwarmer from chelsea, a dude not even inter wanted and a few guys off our bench.
 

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