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Here is what I don't understand.
Juventus, for the last 2 seasons, have been unsing CL revenue as part of their transfer campaign, and what are most people's impressions of the last two mercatos for this squad?
Not good, if you read what most people have to say.
So what exactly did everyone expect to happen this year when Juve has no CL money whatsoever?
I swear, most of the people here on this forum have never seen Juve in a rebuilding project before. And no, 2007 does not count, since most of the team that got demoted stuck around in Serie B to begin with, when the lot of those players hadn't started to decline yet.
Juventus, for the last 2 seasons, have been unsing CL revenue as part of their transfer campaign, and what are most people's impressions of the last two mercatos for this squad?
Not good, if you read what most people have to say.
So what exactly did everyone expect to happen this year when Juve has no CL money whatsoever?
I swear, most of the people here on this forum have never seen Juve in a rebuilding project before. And no, 2007 does not count, since most of the team that got demoted stuck around in Serie B to begin with, when the lot of those players hadn't started to decline yet.
Of course it is.
It is absolutely a bigger project than Calciopoli.
Basically the same squad with the addtions of Diego and Melo last year, finsihed a lot worse than the squad that rose from the ashes of Calciopoli in 2007.
Keep in mind that Camo and Trez were still 30 years old in 2007. Not exactly spring chickens, but certainly not on the decline as of yet.
Del Piero was still doing great things in 2007.
Nedved was still the engine that drove the train.
Buffon was in his prime.
They were a lot hungrier in 2007 because they had something to prove.
There is no doubt that the 2009 team on paper, had as much talent or more talent than the team that finished in 2nd place in2008.
This is a much bigger project. They are trying to lay the foundation of a new Juventus, and I stress FOUNDATION. This is not the same team that we are all going to see at this time next year, this merely the groundwork.
It is absolutely a bigger project than Calciopoli.
Basically the same squad with the addtions of Diego and Melo last year, finsihed a lot worse than the squad that rose from the ashes of Calciopoli in 2007.
Keep in mind that Camo and Trez were still 30 years old in 2007. Not exactly spring chickens, but certainly not on the decline as of yet.
Del Piero was still doing great things in 2007.
Nedved was still the engine that drove the train.
Buffon was in his prime.
They were a lot hungrier in 2007 because they had something to prove.
There is no doubt that the 2009 team on paper, had as much talent or more talent than the team that finished in 2nd place in2008.
This is a much bigger project. They are trying to lay the foundation of a new Juventus, and I stress FOUNDATION. This is not the same team that we are all going to see at this time next year, this merely the groundwork.
They should have sold Camo and Trez when they had the chance, totally rebuilt the squad from the youth systems, given Gio and Bojinov, Criscito, and the others a real chance back then. The remaining talent of Nedved, Del Piero, Buffon, Chiellini, would have been more than enough to take them back to Serie A, and the young players would have had the advantage of playing every week, and being fully ingrained into the "Juventus Way".
However, due to the climate of wanting everything here and now, they did not go that route. That infuriated me more than Juve getting sent down, the way they decided not to rebuild the squad with youth.
However, due to the climate of wanting everything here and now, they did not go that route. That infuriated me more than Juve getting sent down, the way they decided not to rebuild the squad with youth.
I can easily say it's not an improvement on last year.
Lanzafame, Martinez, Pepe, and Krasic are not, in my opinion, improvements on Diego, Giovinco and Camoranesi. None of those players have the skill of Diego. I know some who have turned on the player since he's no longer at Juve will say he never did much, but even during a season when we were poor he was one of the few that produced some bright spots. Krasic is a good player, so the right wing slot has one improvement. Yipee.
If Aquilani stays healthy he will provide some needed creativity in midfield, but chances of that aren't very good. So going with that line of thinking, it's not necessarily an improvement upon last season.
As for the backline, Bonucci seems pretty good so far, but Motta has not. He gets beaten far too easily on the flank, much like Grygera all the time. Traore isn't an upgrade on Grosso although I do like that he is young, so there is room for personal improvement for him.
So what we have here is a few areas that have a couple good additions, while the rest we actually did the opposite and worsened the squad, specifically with Diego's departure. Therefore, I can't say this is a real improvement. Sorry!
And I'm done discussing Diego. I don't care what other folks think, giving him away is fucking idiocy.
Well, then you must rate Quag, Pepe, Lanzafame and Martinez more so than Diego and Seba. That's really what it comes down to doesn't it. You must also think that Aquilani will be able to stay away from injury and Motta will be a serious upgrade to Caceres and Grygera.
If we would have kept Diego and Giovinco, I would say we have made some improvement on last year, for sure. But not now, no way. I'm not going to buy the propaganda. Some of these aforementioned players have been proven to be mediocre, so we did not really make an improvement on last year besides Krasic and maybe Bonucci. You're getting fooled by the quantity (over the quality).
If you think it was a great summer and you rate all these players, that's perfectly fine. I do not.
Lanzafame, Martinez, Pepe, and Krasic are not, in my opinion, improvements on Diego, Giovinco and Camoranesi. None of those players have the skill of Diego. I know some who have turned on the player since he's no longer at Juve will say he never did much, but even during a season when we were poor he was one of the few that produced some bright spots. Krasic is a good player, so the right wing slot has one improvement. Yipee.
If Aquilani stays healthy he will provide some needed creativity in midfield, but chances of that aren't very good. So going with that line of thinking, it's not necessarily an improvement upon last season.
As for the backline, Bonucci seems pretty good so far, but Motta has not. He gets beaten far too easily on the flank, much like Grygera all the time. Traore isn't an upgrade on Grosso although I do like that he is young, so there is room for personal improvement for him.
So what we have here is a few areas that have a couple good additions, while the rest we actually did the opposite and worsened the squad, specifically with Diego's departure. Therefore, I can't say this is a real improvement. Sorry!
And I'm done discussing Diego. I don't care what other folks think, giving him away is fucking idiocy.
Well, then you must rate Quag, Pepe, Lanzafame and Martinez more so than Diego and Seba. That's really what it comes down to doesn't it. You must also think that Aquilani will be able to stay away from injury and Motta will be a serious upgrade to Caceres and Grygera.
If we would have kept Diego and Giovinco, I would say we have made some improvement on last year, for sure. But not now, no way. I'm not going to buy the propaganda. Some of these aforementioned players have been proven to be mediocre, so we did not really make an improvement on last year besides Krasic and maybe Bonucci. You're getting fooled by the quantity (over the quality).
If you think it was a great summer and you rate all these players, that's perfectly fine. I do not.
It's the foundation for an outdated tactical system than can never an I mean never go toe to toe with a champions league 4231 from a great team. 442 is many things, all conquering in the Cl isn't one of them, we have been an utter embarrassment in Europe for half a fucking decade, why? Failure to adapt.
Maybe it's the proximity to the pope but we need to accept footballing evolution that means top team can play through the midle and on the wings. I live 442 and having a semi regista gives me a semi erection. Long live 442 that adapts. Death to this wing play or nothing. It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob out there,
Maybe it's the proximity to the pope but we need to accept footballing evolution that means top team can play through the midle and on the wings. I live 442 and having a semi regista gives me a semi erection. Long live 442 that adapts. Death to this wing play or nothing. It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob out there,
true,we have been wanting Juve to evolve with football,scrap the 4-4-2 and play modern football. yes it did ot work but we never truly bought the players to compliment Diego,or the system. i thought it was a funny quote that we shouldn't "throw the baby out with the bathwater" well,we did with selling Diego so we could regress back into a 4-4-3 that will probably bring us solidity in the league but will leave us completely out-thought in Europe