Gianluigi Donnarumma - GK - AC Milan (13 Viewers)

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K.O.

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It kinda does though.

Not that he's magically going to correct it but we have Claudio Filippi who's probably if not the best then one of the best in the world as a GK coach, we have better defense than Milan, we have Allegri now too and Donnarumma is still just 22 years old. That is crazy for someone with his number of games.

He's still a baby in terms of GK age.

Buffon was 23 when he came to Juve.
Oblak was 21 when he went to Atletico.
Ter Stegen was 22 when he went to Barca.

Donnarumma is right at that age when most GKs of his talent make the big move. And he has 4-5 years before he hits his prime.
It's not about the age for me, it's the quality. Buffon, Oblak and even ter Stegen were probably way more talented at his age and didn't have nearly the amount of blunders Donnarumma already had. Donnarumma has weaknesses all over his game: Awful distribution, awkward when he comes out for crosses, parries a crazy amount of shots centrally for opponents to tap it in.

Off the pitch, how can you trust someone who forced his club to sign his Serie D level brother in order to sign an extension, got the captaincy and then reward them by leaving for only 2m difference in wages. Milan punched above their weight to offer him 8m/season which he definitely doesn't deserve and he wanted out because he wanted 10m instead.
 

JuveJay

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He's definitely mediocre with his feet but if you are playing a defender who is good with them like De Ligt or Bonucci, or have a DM coming short like Pjanic did a lot and Arthur tries to do, it is not quite so important. He's not a sweeper keeper, he's defensive, he has the wrong kind of build to be the former because he's a massive beanpole. When keepers like him get in trouble they just have to kick it out, there is no point trying to lolzilian your way out of it.

He has obvious flaws to his game and is no Buffon or Zoff but it's obvious why we would be interested in the circumstances. I feel sorry for Szczesny as he's, for me, in exactly the same category of 7.5-8/10 keepers who sit below the very top ones, but the kind of mistakes he still makes at 31 years of age show that he will always make them. He seems to drop in confidence, and when that happens the whole defensive unit loses its confidence.

Donnarumma might have played a lot of games and grown up quicker than almost any other keeper in history but he does still have lots of years to improve and learn. Experience is crucial for a goalkeeper, but at some point in their 30s the reflexes and agility declines and that negates what they have improved on in terms of positioning, decision-making and awareness.
 

Orgut

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It's not about the age for me, it's the quality. Buffon, Oblak and even ter Stegen were probably way more talented at his age and didn't have nearly the amount of blunders Donnarumma already had. Donnarumma has weaknesses all over his game: Awful distribution, awkward when he comes out for crosses, parries a crazy amount of shots centrally for opponents to tap it in.

Off the pitch, how can you trust someone who forced his club to sign his Serie D level brother in order to sign an extension, got the captaincy and then reward them by leaving for only 2m difference in wages. Milan punched above their weight to offer him 8m/season which he definitely doesn't deserve and he wanted out because he wanted 10m instead.
Oblak - Yes, I noticed how crazy good he is when we played Benfica.
Stegen - He did about the same with less blunders.
Buffon - I`d take him out of the equation as its unfair to compare Buffon to any other GK.
 

juve123

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He's definitely mediocre with his feet but if you are playing a defender who is good with them like De Ligt or Bonucci, or have a DM coming short like Pjanic did a lot and Arthur tries to do, it is not quite so important. He's not a sweeper keeper, he's defensive, he has the wrong kind of build to be the former because he's a massive beanpole. When keepers like him get in trouble they just have to kick it out, there is no point trying to lolzilian your way out of it.

He has obvious flaws to his game and is no Buffon or Zoff but it's obvious why we would be interested in the circumstances. I feel sorry for Szczesny as he's, for me, in exactly the same category of 7.5-8/10 keepers who sit below the very top ones, but the kind of mistakes he still makes at 31 years of age show that he will always make them. He seems to drop in confidence, and when that happens the whole defensive unit loses its confidence.

Donnarumma might have played a lot of games and grown up quicker than almost any other keeper in history but he does still have lots of years to improve and learn. Experience is crucial for a goalkeeper, but at some point in their 30s the reflexes and agility declines and that negates what they have improved on in terms of positioning, decision-making and awareness.
But is Donnarumma better in organisation of the defence or in communication which we saw when Buffon was in the goal as compared to Szczesny
 

DAiDEViL

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It's not about the age for me, it's the quality. Buffon, Oblak and even ter Stegen were probably way more talented at his age and didn't have nearly the amount of blunders Donnarumma already had. Donnarumma has weaknesses all over his game: Awful distribution, awkward when he comes out for crosses, parries a crazy amount of shots centrally for opponents to tap it in.
Oh no - I fucking hate that.
 

Hust

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Also, has achieved nothing in his career so far, and could potentially turn out to be a bust.

I am not against Dollaruma, but not for 9 million in wages. That's ridiculous and disrespectful to the players we have here.

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Nope, not really. Romagnoli is average.
a kid that has started for Milan since he was 16 has done nothing? :confused:

Are you blaming the club he played for or the player himself for doing nothing? He, as a kid, committed to the Milan project. That project failed him, now he is leaving. How the heck is that a bust?

I can agree with you on the 9m for thinking thats high. I'm OK with it b/c the of possible upside. Won't be hard to sell him on in a couple years if he doesn't do well, don't forget that (if there is one thing Raiola players are successful at, its being sold :grin:)

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The way Donnarumma seems to always parry shots centrally is going to haunt De Ligt in his sleep. Not mentioning his absolutely awful distribution from the back. Just because he's 22 doesn't mean he'll magically start correcting these tendencies in his game.

I personally think Szczesny is the better goalkeeper, but even if you're looking for the future, Donnarumma isn't the one. Raiola and Milan fans were overhyping this kid for years and yet if you go check the quantity of blunders he's already made, it looks like he's been around for 20 years.
From Conte days through Allegri's days, we literally almost always hand rolled the ball to the CBs to build out of the back. Of MDL loses sleep for that, then I think we got bigger problems :p

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Do you guys realize that you are knocking a kid that plays for a huge club AS A TEENAGER? You do realize when you are 16, 18, 20 years old for a big club, there are gonna be growing pains.

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He's definitely mediocre with his feet but if you are playing a defender who is good with them like De Ligt or Bonucci, or have a DM coming short like Pjanic did a lot and Arthur tries to do, it is not quite so important. He's not a sweeper keeper, he's defensive, he has the wrong kind of build to be the former because he's a massive beanpole. When keepers like him get in trouble they just have to kick it out, there is no point trying to lolzilian your way out of it.

He has obvious flaws to his game and is no Buffon or Zoff but it's obvious why we would be interested in the circumstances. I feel sorry for Szczesny as he's, for me, in exactly the same category of 7.5-8/10 keepers who sit below the very top ones, but the kind of mistakes he still makes at 31 years of age show that he will always make them. He seems to drop in confidence, and when that happens the whole defensive unit loses its confidence.

Donnarumma might have played a lot of games and grown up quicker than almost any other keeper in history but he does still have lots of years to improve and learn. Experience is crucial for a goalkeeper, but at some point in their 30s the reflexes and agility declines and that negates what they have improved on in terms of positioning, decision-making and awareness.
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Apparently he’s happy to accept less wages to come to Juventus.
Odd for a "fat man" player. :numnum:
 
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duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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A salary of 7m plus some bonus should be more than enough. If Barca want him so bad, they can have him... it's not a free transfer with Raiola fee plus high salary

Give Max a proper MF first god damn it
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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There are a lot of jinxes going around. If this transfer doesn’t happen quickly I don’t think he is ours.
He is ours. No doubt about it.
Keepers who can go to barfa don't randomly like Instagram posts about coaches taking over Juventus, especially since that GK has former ties with Meelan.
 

GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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It's possible that Barcelona leave the race to sign Donnarumma and start to look for Buffon as a second goalkeeper. [Sky]

Szczesny has wanted to leave Juventus for a year now. The percentage of Donnarumma remains unchanged: 99.96%. [Momblano]
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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It's possible that Barcelona leave the race to sign Donnarumma and start to look for Buffon as a second goalkeeper. [Sky]

Szczesny has wanted to leave Juventus for a year now. The percentage of Donnarumma remains unchanged: 99.96%. [Momblano]
To keep Buffon as number 2?

Would love to keep him but just don't see it happening with so much made about him leaving and him giving his farewell.
 
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