[GER] Bundesliga 2015/2016 (13 Viewers)

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SHHHHH NO TEARS
ONLY DREAMS NOW

this is so creepy

 

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[DAiDEViL]

i feel like he could have been great as Roark Jr./Yellow Bastard in sin city

@Post Ironic

 

[Seven]

Mou better than pep?

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Too bad that didn't happen much.

You returned :depressed

 

[Hist]

Guardiola is a good coach, there's no question. I'm very excited to see him with a club like Man City though because so far Guardiola has only worked with the absolute best players the world has to offer.

Even coaching a player like Aguero seems like a step down in the quality of player he's used to. I can't say he's the best coach in the world until I see him achieve something with a lesser side. His last two defeats in the CL should be telling. It's something like 11-2 on aggregate to Real and Barca if I remember correctly.

It's one thing to employ your trademark style when you have optimal conditions. But coaching is not always about that. It's about adapting and pulling something out of nothing. Fans always groan about counter attacking football but it's a legitimate philosophy that must be coached. If you look at someone like Simeone, his team can counter attack and it can play possession, this is why he can keep up with the giant teams year in and year out.

He can't simply rely on his players to execute every match, because they won't. They're not as good as Guardiola's. So he has to adapt the team constantly. Guardiola has never needed to do these things.

Can you imagine him at Man City and Aguero gets hurt. Here you go Pep, go win the treble with Bony. And it's possible Guardiola is so great a coach that he can do something with that caliber of player but to be honest, we haven't seen it yet.

One weird thing about coaching is that being great with teams that have average-good players does not necessarily transfer to being great with teams that have worldclass players. Similarly, a coach who is great with world class squads is not necessarily great with average-good squads.

Enrique is a paradigm example with a coach whose ideas only work with players that are world class. When he had players of lesser quality he flopped badly at Roma and showed no signs of any exceptional coaching ability with Celta vigo. Pep might turn out to be the same we will see.

Mourinho seems to me to be a coach whose effect is best shown when he is coaching a very good squad. Having world class players all over the team like at Madrid did not make his madrid any better than his Inter or Porto or early Chelsea squad. Conte strikes me as the same. Adding Tevez and Lorente barely improved his Juve even though this was supposed to be a substantial improvement in our attack. His impact would be most notable with squads like Juve's, ATM, Dortmund, Liverpool etc. I think the same would happen to Simeone

The evidence is weak but I do think that Pep and enrique's genius is in getting the best out of world class players and only world class players. I'd even argue that they are the best at getting world class players to perform. Give their barca's to Mourinho or Conte or Simeone and they wont be able to get barca to be as good. Give Chelsea or ATM or Juve to Pep and Enrique and they'd perform worse that Mou, Conte and Simeone. Some strategies require a certain class of players to work. Pep and Enrique have the strategies that work best with the best players while Mou and Simeone have the strategies that work best with the lesser players.

 

[Alex-444]

Neuer - Thiago, Lewandowski, Costa, Alonso, Boateng, Lahm (K), Müller, Alaba, Badstuber, Coman |

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[Klin]

How do you make a formation with that?

 

[kao_ray]

How do you make a formation with that?

Neuer

Alaba-Boateng-Badstuber-Lahm

Alonso-Thiago

Coman-Muller-Costa

Lewandowski​

 

[Klin]

Neuer

Alaba-Boateng-Badstuber-Lahm

Alonso-Thiago

Coman-Muller-Costa

Lewandowski​

Is that how Pep deploys his team?

 

[kao_ray]

Is that how Pep deploys his team?

je ne sais pas

 

[lgorTudor]

Boateng injured

 

[Signora Omicidi]

Boateng injured

Groin Injury.Will Probably miss the firts leg against us
huge loss for Bayern.

 

[Nzoric]

We need all the help we can get.

 

[JuveJay]

It's a shame that donkey Van Buyten isn't playing this time.

Mandzukic is obviously going to score, btw.

 

[lgorTudor]

Now we only need Lewandoski to get run over by a truck.

Just kidding

I don't wish anybody any harm over a football game

 

[.zero]

Mandzukic is obviously going to score, btw.

Mandycakes is going to give Bayern a facial of goals

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Mandycakes is going to give Bayern a facial of goals

Like a murder of crows?

 

[Fred]

Is that how Pep deploys his team?

I watched the first half, this is how they were deployed:

.........Boateng ---Badstuber------Alaba

-------------------Alonso----------

D.Costa------Lahm-------Thiago------Coman


-------------Muller-------Lewa

3 CB's, a DM and 2 CM's ahead of him. Costa and Coman were wingers.

 

[Osman]

Who defends the flanks?

 

[Fred]

Who defends the flanks?

Lahm was doubling up as a right fullback at times, with the three centerbacks pushing farther to the left and becoming a 4 man defense. They didn't need to resort to that very much, as they had possession most of the time, and Lahm was always a CM when Bayern were in possession.

 

[blondu]

asymetric defences can be penetrated more easily on counters.