[GER] Bundesliga 2014/2015 (18 Viewers)

[Bianconero_Aus]

I wouldn't go anywhere near Klopp at the moment tbh. If he manages to get this Dortmund team relegated (or close to relegation, which is looking very likely ATM) it would negate all the good he has done over the past few years.

 

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[Post Ironic]

I wouldn't be happy with Allegri if Juve was in the last 16 but in the relegation zone in Serie A.

But I also wouldn't blame Allegri if we were missing players like Dortmund is. Players from the starting 11 like Blaszczykowski, Gundogan, Sahin. Reus has been back and forth from the injury report. Hummels was injured at the beginning of the preseason and took time to get to fitness. Mkhitaryan is also now out for 6 weeks. You can't tell me that hasn't effected the club at all.

Also, I might add that yes Dortmund has looked particularly bad in the Bundesliga this season. But that doesn't just wipe out all the Dortmund has done in the last five years, especially when you take into consideration their injury struggles. Maybe he just needs a new start and a different league. I think his style of football would be a breath of fresh air to Juventus and he certainly has the CL pedigree that we know he can get to players and get teams with less than massive finances to the CL finals.

I think he'd be great here. Better than Allegri maybe.

The injury thing is a bit of a myth. Yes, they've had their fair share of injury woes. But so have any teams, including Juventus with most of our backline missing significant time this year so far, Barzagli in particular not playing a single game, Pirlo missing the start of the season, etc.

If you look at the line-ups Dortmund has been fielding each match in Bundesliga, they should be in no worse than 3rd/4th place. The injuries might keep them below Wolfsburg and Bayern Munich, but there is no way they should be below anyone else in that league according to talent and monetary value of their roster even accounting for the injuries. They are massively underperforming this year and that starts with Klopp.

Would I like Klopp here all the same? I wouldn't take him right now and fire Allegri. But if he were available in the summer and expressed interest in Juve, you'd have to consider it, if Allegri finished this season poorly.

But if we win scudetto and go to CL QFs. No way.

 

[Knowah]

I wouldn't go anywhere near Klopp at the moment tbh. If he manages to get this Dortmund team relegated (or close to relegation, which is looking very likely ATM) it would negate all the good he has done over the past few years.

Do you really believe that?

Does success live and die in one season? He has done for Dortmund, with far less finances, more than many far richer clubs in Europe. He has made several strong players into bonafide stars. Players were that then sold out from under him. Reus is soon to follow. Lewandowski was sold and his replacement was Immobile. And that was supposed to give him the offensive power he needed to compete.

I'll admit, Dortmund has had a wretched season so far. But I wouldn't go so far as to say his entire legacy at Dortmund will be negated with a relegation. And I don't think they'll be relegated either.

Imagine the beginning of this season, us arguing whether we would take Klopp over Allegri.

 

[Nostradamus]

Klopp said, that if he ones gonna leave the Bundesliga, then the only destination would be the EPL, as he speaks some proper English..not perfect, but good enough to be able to communicate and that is very important for him, thus PD and Serie A wouldnt be options for him.

When asked whether he after his time in Dortmund will go to the island, Klopp said, "I think that England is the only country apart from Germany, where I should consider to work." The simple reason: "Just because I know the language a little and I need the language for my work. "

http://sportbild.bild.de/bundesliga...ausland-dann-nach-england-38673368.sport.html

He wont leave Dortmund though and the management would never ever sack him. They ll recuperate now and regroup middle of January and then I m sure things ll start to change. Most of the times they were clearly the better team, but the game yesterday was really really a bad.

Selke from Bremen on the other hand..what a game he played yesterday..hopefully the breakthrough and more to come from now.

 

[FuriaCeca]

People prefering Allegri over Klopp ? never thought I'd live to hear that. With all do respect to Max, Klopp is a much better coach from every aspect of the game. He would be a dream for any club in the world right now, apart from Real and Bayren maybe.

 

[Knowah]

Klopp said, that if he ones gonna leave the Bundesliga, then the only destination would be the EPL, as he speaks some proper English..not perfect, but good enough to be able to communicate and that is very important for him, thus PD and Serie A wouldnt be options for him.

When asked whether he after his time in Dortmund will go to the island, Klopp said, "I think that England is the only country apart from Germany, where I should consider to work." The simple reason: "Just because I know the language a little and I need the language for my work. "

http://sportbild.bild.de/bundesliga...ausland-dann-nach-england-38673368.sport.html

He wont leave Dortmund though and the management would never ever sack him. They ll recuperate now and regroup middle of January and then I m sure things ll start to change. Most of the times they were clearly the better team, but the game yesterday was really really a bad.

Selke from Bremen on the other hand..what a game he played yesterday..hopefully the breakthrough and more to come from now.

That makes sense. However, managers say all kinds of things to the media and there have been enough times where managers have said one thing and done another for us to say that its possible he could do something else. Nobody knows what will happen but its not set in stone if he leaves the Bundesliga he'd only go to EPL.

But I agree, it seems like a proper fit for him and makes sense. Stranger things have happened though.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Nah but theyd beat us with Mancini

Conte is not here anymore.

 

[Black+White]

Does success live and die in one season? He has done for Dortmund, with far less finances, more than many far richer clubs in Europe. He has made several strong players into bonafide stars. Players were that then sold out from under him. Reus is soon to follow. Lewandowski was sold and his replacement was Immobile. And that was supposed to give him the offensive power he needed to compete.

He has formed younger players into very good ones but Reus is not one of them.
He came to Dortmund for over 17 mil euros and was already the player of the year in the Bundesliga.
The guy who really formed Reus(and played him at his best position, which is not the wings) is Lucien Favre.

The thing with Dortmund is that they, like nearly every other club besides Bayern in Germany, get important players taken away and have to replace them.
If you want to still be successfull, your transfers need to be pretty good and that's something they haven't been able to do for some time now.

Also, the league has learned from their matchups with Dortmund and just doesn't play to their strength anymore. So instead of going forward, they're just giving the ball to Dortmund and sit back, which makes Klopps tactics useless and it seems like they don't have a plan B.
On top of it, guys like Hummels, Subotic, Mikki, Gündogan or Pisczeck haven't been good at all while important guys like Reus or Sokratis have missed way too many games.

Though, the worst thing currently's that there are still people looking at the table and talk about how many points they're behind a CL spot and nearly everyone talking about them being too good to not get out of the relegation zone quickly.
All that while the team can't win two in a row and always loses against teams like Bremen, who're really bad.
For them to get out there they should concentrate on winning some games and reaching that 40 point plateu(pretty much secures you to stay up). If they do so and there are still some games left, they can try to get more out of it...

 

[Klin]

As if Klopp would choose to coach a club in Italy, a country with an inferior league to the Bundesliga.

 

[R.A.B.]

yes but BVB is in fault at losing Lewandowski. He wanted to stay but he wanted a raise on bar with Reus & Gotze that means 4.5 - 5 mln Euro when he was earning 1.5 . BVB offered him 3.3 at best so he said goodbye. Now they paid 20 mln for Immobile plus couple of millions on Ramos. 20 : 5 = 4 year contract for Lewandowski.
Now Reus have 25 realase clause They are so good at clauses. Plus 30 mln for Mkhytryan

 

[LiquidPLP]

Yeah but many times they were mentioned here as role model for us. They had good results these past few years but they made too many mistakes when it comes to the squad. They couldn't retain their best players which pretty much always ends up badly (that's why I think the late "should've sold Vidal when we had a chance" talk in here is rubbish) and they failed to replace them properly.

Juve don't sign too many starts but the management does very well to keep our best players which is a guarantee of consistency throughout years. I wish we had bought a proper AM/winger last Summer - I'd be much more comfortable about the BVB encounter right now. Hopefully they won't wake up from this nightmare too early which should increase our chances significantly. We need them money and success to become more confident in CL umpkin:

 

[Bufi]

Can someone tells me where are the vip seats in dortmund stadium?and if i have a vip ticket can i see a museum or smth else?

 

[zizinho]

Can someone tells me where are the vip seats in dortmund stadium?and if i have a vip ticket can i see a museum or smth else?

Spoiler

its the black seats under the writing "B O R U S S I A"

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[Post Ironic]

Freiberg just won 2-1 over Hanover to move to 17 points which means Dortmund is dead last in Bundesliga at the halfway point of the season with 15 points, 2 points behind the teams above them. That Immobile effect!

That defender we were linked to in 2013, Marc-Oliver Kempf scored for Freiberg... @Mark Are we still interested in him?

 

[piotrr]

Freiberg just won 2-1 over Hanover to move to 17 points which means Dortmund is dead last in Bundesliga at the halfway point of the season with 15 points, 2 points behind the teams above them. That Immobile effect!

That defender we were linked to in 2013, Marc-Oliver Kempf scored for Freiberg... @Mark Are we still interested in him?

Nice jinx. 2-2.

 

[Mark]

Freiberg just won 2-1 over Hanover to move to 17 points which means Dortmund is dead last in Bundesliga at the halfway point of the season with 15 points, 2 points behind the teams above them. That Immobile effect!

That defender we were linked to in 2013, Marc-Oliver Kempf scored for Freiberg... @Mark Are we still interested in him?

I don't think so since he told us twice to fuck off. I heard he's playing well lately.

 

[Post Ironic]

Nice jinx. 2-2.

I just saw that. Talk about a last second goal.

Still, Dortmund tied for last place in Bundesliga with Freiberg.

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I don't think so since he told us twice to $#@! off. I heard he's playing well lately.

We could probably have used him to start this season with our injury troubles.

 

[Mark]

I guess that train as passed but I'm happy we got Rugani in the ranks.

 

[zizinho]

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[Knowah]

He has formed younger players into very good ones but Reus is not one of them.
He came to Dortmund for over 17 mil euros and was already the player of the year in the Bundesliga.
The guy who really formed Reus(and played him at his best position, which is not the wings) is Lucien Favre.

The thing with Dortmund is that they, like nearly every other club besides Bayern in Germany, get important players taken away and have to replace them.
If you want to still be successfull, your transfers need to be pretty good and that's something they haven't been able to do for some time now.

Also, the league has learned from their matchups with Dortmund and just doesn't play to their strength anymore. So instead of going forward, they're just giving the ball to Dortmund and sit back, which makes Klopps tactics useless and it seems like they don't have a plan B.
On top of it, guys like Hummels, Subotic, Mikki, Gündogan or Pisczeck haven't been good at all while important guys like Reus or Sokratis have missed way too many games.

Though, the worst thing currently's that there are still people looking at the table and talk about how many points they're behind a CL spot and nearly everyone talking about them being too good to not get out of the relegation zone quickly.
All that while the team can't win two in a row and always loses against teams like Bremen, who're really bad.
For them to get out there they should concentrate on winning some games and reaching that 40 point plateu(pretty much secures you to stay up). If they do so and there are still some games left, they can try to get more out of it...

I agree. But I never said Klopp formed Reus. I said he had his best players taken out from under him and is given lesser talent to replace them. Reus is soon to follow that mold, that mold that Lewandowski was in when Dortmund lost him and he was replaced with Immobile.

yes but BVB is in fault at losing Lewandowski. He wanted to stay but he wanted a raise on bar with Reus & Gotze that means 4.5 - 5 mln Euro when he was earning 1.5 . BVB offered him 3.3 at best so he said goodbye. Now they paid 20 mln for Immobile plus couple of millions on Ramos. 20 : 5 = 4 year contract for Lewandowski.
Now Reus have 25 realase clause They are so good at clauses. Plus 30 mln for Mkhytryan

They've lost stars who are then replaced with lesser quality players. Their recent transfers have been disappointing as a whole. Lewandowski to Immobile. Gotze to Mkhytryan. I wonder what downgrade they'll sign in place of Reus. Giovinco?