[GER] Bundesliga 2009/2010 (14 Viewers)

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
#1
Promoted to Bundesliga: SC Freiburg, FSV Mainz 05, Nurnberg

Relegated to Bundesliga 2nd Div.: Cottbus, Karlsruhe, Bielefeld

Bundesliga 2009/2010 to be posted when it's officially announced.

Bundesliga topic: Clubs, Transfer, Results, Statements, Press, Media, Stats etc.
 

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Alltagsheld

Senior Member
Oct 10, 2006
3,183
#3
Werder Bremen paid an estimated two milion Euro to loan Shaktar Donezk' bolivian striker Marcelo Moreno. They have an option to buy him at the end of the season.

The Bremen side is also close to sign German international Marko Marin (20) from Borussia Mönchengladbach. The winger recently said he wants to move to Werder immediately after a later move was proposed.

http://www.mainpost.de/sport/Nationalspieler-Marin-will-sofort-zu-Werder;art203,5160310
 

SABSAB

Snoop Stinks
Dec 10, 2008
10,832
#5
Some bad news:
Patrick Helmes (Bayer Leverkusen) suffered a cruciate ligament rupture while playing football with friends.

Ömer Toprak (SC Freiburg, U19 EURO Champion) got badly injured in a kart accident. It´s not clear what happened but his tank exploded and Toprak burned his legs and other parts of his body.
He is in a special clinic, the doctors haven´t made a prediction yet but it could be the end of his career.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#7
Feel bad for Helmes, next year was his big season because he has been doing very well for the past two seasons and was establishing himself.

Also Brafheid is Van Gaal's first signing. Bayern also put Nerlinger as sporting director( Hoeness's old position). So we will have a new face making statements soon, i don't think he will be as controversial hoeness i suppose.
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
6,349
#12
Bayern also put Nerlinger as sporting director( Hoeness's old position). So we will have a new face making statements soon, i don't think he will be as controversial hoeness i suppose.
he is as controversial as pessotto (but just without the window-jumpin').

he is the first guy i ever called a douche bag
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,025
#13
he is as controversial as pessotto (but just without the window-jumpin').
:lol2:

Pesso is the strangest Juventino ever. He's so calm, he looks like a very shy person, doesn't talk much, he just gets the job done, but anytime now i expect him to pull out a knife and stab the 4th official.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#16
Just saw that about Bernd, very good player its just a shame he peaked late ( or his talents were appreciate late by the NT). One of the few players that actually performed well in those very average years for the German NT. All the best for him in the future.

Read an interesting article about the development procedures of the national team.

Reaping the rewards of a winning mentality

By Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger
(Archive)

July 2, 2009
Two years later, Germany again didn't make the finals because they were defeated by Greece in Athens and then lost a crucial home match against England when substitute Francis Jeffers fired home a low shot three minutes into injury time. (This was on the day before the senior side lost 5-1 to England in Munich.)

Make no mistake, there were some decent players in those German Under-21 teams. The side that was beaten by Northern Ireland in 1999 featured Robert Enke in goal and Fabian Ernst in midfield, while Sebastian Deisler made his debut. The next generation, which lost the thriller to England, boasted Timo Hildebrand in goal and a defence anchored by Arne Friedrich and Christoph Metzelder.

Yet back then, some ten years ago, most everyone connected with German football had come to realise we were in grave trouble as regarded young talent. Germany sent an overage team to the 1998 World Cup and two years later, at Euro 2000, things were even worse: the average age of the side that opened the tournament against Romania was a shocking 30 years.

Germany's assistant coach during Euro 2000 was Horst Hrubesch, Kevin Keegan's former striking partner at Hamburg. As a player, Hrubesch wasn't much into finesse - his German nickname could best be translated as the Heading Hulk - and no one had ever accused him of being too forward-thinking during his undistinguished coaching career.

Thus Hrubesch appeared to be living on borrowed time as Germany crashed out of Euro 2000 in particularly inglorious fashion. Behind his back, some German FA (DFB) officials referred to him as Wild Man, meaning an unsophisticated woodland creature. When head coach Erich Ribbeck was forced to step down, it was taken for granted his sidekick Hrubesch would disappear as well.

But he didn't. After the Euro 2000 debacle, the DFB was at long last forced into action and installed a youth football subsidy programme.

Over the next nine years, some 100m Euros would be spent on nurturing talent, but the first step, back in 2000, was bringing in more and better-trained coaches. Hrubesch was one of them.

Nine years on and Germany has just become the first country in history to simultaneously hold the three major European titles in youth football, as the Under-19s won the European Championships last July, the Under-17s followed suit in May and on Monday the Under-21s beat England 4-0 to lift the continental title for the first time ever.

Two of those winning teams, the Under-19s and the Under-21s, were coached by Hrubesch.

This run of three triumphs in eleven months seems to be the more uncanny since Germany had won exactly zilch in youth football since 1992 (when the Under-16s beat Spain in the final for the European Championships).

But progress wasn't as sudden as it seems. In 2004, for instance, the German Under-21s who contested the European Championship finals on home soil included a whole bunch of players who exceeded expectations at the World Cup two years later: Thomas Hitzlsperger, Robert Huth, David Odonkor and, especially, Lukas Podolski and Bastian Schweinsteiger. I say "especially", because the two did so well that public pressure forced then-national coach Rudi Völler to finally give youth a chance and include them in his own Euro 2004 squad.

The focus on nurturing talent increased when Jürgen Klinsmann followed Völler and became the first national coach in many moons to actually take a gamble and blood youngsters by the truckload. (As late as in the October of 2005, Lothar Matthäus harshly criticised what he called Klinsmann's "youth mania" and predicted disaster at the World Cup due to too many inexperienced players.)

The final push probably came in April of 2006, when Matthias Sammer was made the DFB's director of football. He spent large parts of the next years demanding a stronger winning mentality of the junior sides. It seemed to run counter to the prevailing notion that youth football should be about development, not winning, but Sammer felt differently.

"We have explicitly stated that winning titles is our aim in youth football," he said, "because certain character traits are part of the learning curve as well. We cannot just concentrate on conditioning, technical skills and tactics - we have to intensify our focus on a player's personality. Players can build a winning mentality only through experience. Once you've had the experience of winning in youth football, you want to have it again."

Well, he certainly got what he asked for. Whether this approach has made all the difference or whether it was the subsidy programme or a combination thereof or perhaps something else entirely is difficult to say. That "something else" could for example be a seismic shift of a quite different nature, namely the make-up of our youth sides.

The Under-21 squad in 2002 included only four players who could have started for another country (the Turk Mahmut Yilmaz, the Polish-born Sebastian Schindzielorz, the Bosnian Anel Dzaka and Ferydoon Zandi, son of an Iranian father). In 2004, the number was already up to eight (Giuseppe Gemiti, Mimoun Azaouagh, Jermaine Jones, Selim Teber, Kolja Afriyie, Emmanuel Krontiris, Lukas Podolski, David Odonkor).

The current, newly-crowned German Under-21 champions of Europe are polyglot indeed: there were eight players in the final alone who chose the country they wanted to represent (despite their quite German names, Andreas Beck was born in Russia, Sebastian Boenisch was born in Poland and Fabian Johnson's father is American), two more were on the bench, one sat in the stands.

Of course you can't tell how many players from those successful Under-17s, Under-19s and Under-21s will really break through and one day significantly help the senior side or their club teams. (I mean, let's see how many names from the starting XI of the Under-16 team which became European Champions in 1992 ring a bell: Wieland, Hahn, Fensch, Wildmann, Bochtler, Lehmann, Hinz, Rattkowski, Ricken, Michalke and Bettenstaedt.)

But Sammer's remark about building a winning mentality is certainly plausible, and you may extend it beyond the field of play. More than 8.2m Germans watched the Under-21s defeat England in the final and the string of titles has created a buzz that comes hot on the heels of a season that was not only exciting domestically but also saw a Bundesliga side, after a long wait, in a European final again.

Put differently, football's feel good factor is currently excellent in Germany. Can't wait for the new season.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=658549&sec=europe&root=europe&cc=3436
 

chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
15,055
#17
I read an article today on a Belgian website that Ribery is allowed to leave Bayern if an offer of 80 MEuro comes in for him.
Don't know their source.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
#18
I read an article today on a Belgian website that Ribery is allowed to leave Bayern if an offer of 80 MEuro comes in for him.
Don't know their source.
Never could understand why madrid wants to buy someone like Ribery who is not much better than Robben IMO?! When he's that much expensive.

Sometimes one gets a feeling that they want to spend just for the sake of it.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,251
#19
The better question is, why the hell would Real want Ribery when they already have Kaka and Ronaldo. That should be enough FFS.
 

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