General Religion & Philosophy Discussion Thread (20 Viewers)

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and this is what i'm talking about. a post containing nothing but WTF-ery

WTF-ery is believing a tornado running through a rubbish dump could create a Ferrari.

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Elaborate.

The Universe points to a creator, not to itself.

 

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[Trequartista]

How does it point to a creator?

 

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How does it point to a creator?

There is a clear conscience in its design.

 

[ALC]

WTF-ery is believing a tornado running through a rubbish dump could create a Ferrari.

oh, is that how they are made now? must be why they catch on fire so often.

 

[Trequartista]

Gamma-ray bursts, black holes, asteroids, and so on.

That's quite some design, isn't it.

 

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Gamma-ray bursts, black holes, asteroids, and so on.

That's quite some design, isn't it.

Yes it is. Looking at little parts in isolation doesn't always allow you to see the bigger picture.

How much do you know about our very own Solar System?

 

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Fascinating reading in here

 

[Trequartista]

Not as much as I'd like to.

 

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Not as much as I'd like to.

From what you know, do you see any design at all in the orbital paths of each planet, in their distances from each other, in earth's distance from the sun?

 

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From what you know, do you see any design at all in the orbital paths of each planet, in their distances from each other, in earth's distance from the sun?

Nope.

What do you think the tailbone is for? If I remember correctly, you don't believe in evolution.

 

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Nope.

What do you think the tailbone is for? If I remember correctly, you don't believe in evolution.

If you don't see any design whatsoever in the Solar System then you've got a heavy dose of bad luck.

I haven't stated any view on evolution. Either view doesn't disprove the existence of God.

One evolves from a bit of liquid to a fully functioning human being, does that disprove the existence of God?

 

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Nope, just trying to remember where you stand on the matter.

Evolution contradicts the argument from design, though.

 

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There's designs in galaxies. The milky way has the shape of a logarithmic spiral.

 

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Nope, just trying to remember where you stand on the matter.

Evolution contradicts the argument from design, though.

Both competing views on evolution may fit into the framework of theism.

I note you sidetracked the discussions on the clear design and balance in the universe.

The recent solar flare on the sun, that didn't completely wipe us out, even though the flare on its own was many-fold larger than the entire earth. These little things are signs for those you have an open mind, but more importantly an open heart as well.

 

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I didn't sidetrack anything, there is just nothing more to add.

If the universe was designed, well the designer was downright incompetent.

 

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wtf are you guys talking about? the universe is designed fine the way it is. the reason it looks like it does is because it follows the laws of physics.

 

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I didn't sidetrack anything, there is just nothing more to add.

If the universe was designed, well the designer was downright incompetent.

That just goes to show your own incompetence, pretending you understand even a minuscule percentage of the universe. That comment shows that you have a personal hatred of theism and God.

If evolution disproves design then the process of normal intercourse, pregnancy and childbirth may also disprove design in a similar, but obviously not the same, manner. One does evolve in the natural birth process.

 

[.zero]

There's designs in galaxies. The milky way has the shape of a logarithmic spiral.

Is Pluto still a moon or is he best as Mickey's dog?

 

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wtf are you guys talking about? the universe is designed fine the way it is. the reason it looks like it does is because it follows the laws of physics.

In before Linebreak claims that God wrote the laws of physics.

That just goes to show your own incompetence, pretending you understand even a minuscule percentage of the universe. That comment shows that you have a personal hatred of theism and God.

If evolution disproves design then the process of normal intercourse, pregnancy and childbirth may also disprove design in a similar, but obviously not the same, manner. One does evolve in the natural birth process.

Hatred? Meh, not really. I find the theistic claims unconvincing, that's pretty much it.

 

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In before Linebreak claims that God wrote the laws of physics.



Hatred? Meh, not really. I find the theistic claims unconvincing, that's pretty much it.

I suppose man created the laws of Physics then?

Yes hatred, otherwise you wouldn't be so eager to call God, whom you deep down believe in, even with your little knowledge of the universe, incompetent.