So what are this guy's stats? And what is so good about him?
(Not being sarcastic, actually curious)
(Not being sarcastic, actually curious)
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not really, i never meant to confuse you, on the contrary, i m always eager to explain with more details what i mean, even to the ones who dont get it with the first...
Dont be shy and feel free to ask me what you dont understand, i cant go in much greater detail in any of the above mentioned subjects,
in a way there are summarys of what i have in mind!
If you are reffering to the Vidal Melo part.
We have invested 25mil on Melo, these 25mil are a strategical investment on a quality player.
If we had a 25mil player in every position, we would be title contenders.
Even if those players dont turned out to be wc, they are at least very competent to dominate serie A.
So we should rather invest on other spots every time we make such an investment, where we have player worthy 0.5-5mil as starters.
Because of our incompetent transfer director, when we try to sell a player, we cant make profit, regardless of his market value.
So there is yet another reason not to sell such an expensive player.
Because Melo was one of our best players, we risk to get someone who will not cope as good, why fix smth is aint broken?
so yet another reason not to mess with a 25mil investment.
I cannot stress out the importance of upgrading the weaklings enough. We are as strong as our weaker link, many times the team was working, but once our weakest link shattered, we crashed, to avoid this, we must set as the highest priority to replace our weaklings.
To create a competitive team, we need to add up as may quality players as we can.
So to become extra efficient, we must eradicate our weaklings and replace them with quality players.
Such upgrades have the maximum positive end result on our performance and dont undermine/halt our progress of building up a team with competitive players in every position, as season go by.
As long as we waste all our resources to calibrate the same 2 position, we are falling back in the development pace.
Got that? So why replace a 25mil investment, who does at least a decent job, instead of a weakling?
Why give him away and lose the 25mil? then be forced to replace him by spending at least 10mil more and due to lack of remaing funds again be forced to replace a loaned weakling in the LB (traore) with yet another free player, of low/dubious quality?
Where is the sense lost in that strategy?
Why spend 10more mil to make Quaq a permanent buy, when you believe that he is not reliable enough to be a starter, when you already have DP, Toni, Amauri and Iaq as subs?
Then if you consider him reliable, why spend another 15more mil to buy someone even better? (Vucinic)
Why not spend this cash on Bastos, to secure a starter LW?
Where is the sense on that?
How can you support this stupidity? Just because you like the promise Vidal and Vucinic are emanating?
But have you already forgotten, that Melo and Amauri were emanating the same promise, but they couldnt compensate the failures of our LB, CB and LM and then they became the scapegoats?
Our money are limited, we cannot afford to waste them on opportunity targets, we need to replace the weaklings and since we want to build up a competitive team and we dont challenge for any titles this year, it is the perfect opportunity to buy less quantity, (as we will play less games and wont need them), but more quality players, (so they quality will accumulate with future and past investments to make a competitive squad.)
By selling off a 25mil investement, we cancel a huge investment, made on the past and we create a new whole in the roster,
then we need to buy one more quality starter and our efforts to slowly accumulate a critical amount of starters is becoming more difficult by one more player and is halted for yet another year.
It is a strategical step backwards, in the long run.
And also a tactical unwise step, as we dont upgrade the current squad significantly, since we are replacing one of the very few players who were actually working with another one of similar value.
A replacemeant of a weaker link, would help us more both now and help us accumulate more quality players in the future.
Got the full picture now?
About the numbers.
We have a 25mil investment who is working, we betray him, exclude him from the team, favor others in front of him, due to their nationality, loan him to a team that is known that is in grave economical situation and is threatened to go bankrupt, they also happen to be a team, that they dont pay everything they promise to do (i beleive that they still owe money to Ribery and Hagi), we risk to lose him for 6-8mil, because we know they cant affort more and his contract will expire soon anyway, we may as well release him and lose the full 25mil investment.
So for this particular season, we chose to boot a 25mil player and the only sum we get on our hands is 0,5 and the promise for 1mil in the next 2 years.
Then we buy a new player at 10.5 mil.
So in 2years long we have invested 35mil for to improve a CM position, that was already working.
last year we have offloaded another 25mil CM, for half the money we got him and again overlooked our other issues, again it was considered a priority to the invest the 25 mil, in order to upgrade a 25mil, rather than spend it elsewhere, now again, we invest 10mil to upgrade a new 25mil player.
And the 3 years before we did the same, you follow the pattern here, the accumulated sums we have wasted to fine our CMs?
Now imagine spend those accumulate sums on player playing in other positions?
We did the same with the SS, each and every year for the past 5years.
The accumulates sums wasted on those positions the past 6 year, if invested equally in all position, would give us a competitive team by now.
We wasted all these years without ephemeral gain, or by improving the number of quality players in our squad, because we keep investing on the same 2 positions each and every year.
But why? IMO Lugano is, or at least was way better, he had injuries lately, or is there another reason behind it?
Dont be shy and feel free to ask me what you dont understand, i cant go in much greater detail in any of the above mentioned subjects,
in a way there are summarys of what i have in mind!
If you are reffering to the Vidal Melo part.
We have invested 25mil on Melo, these 25mil are a strategical investment on a quality player.
If we had a 25mil player in every position, we would be title contenders.
Even if those players dont turned out to be wc, they are at least very competent to dominate serie A.
So we should rather invest on other spots every time we make such an investment, where we have player worthy 0.5-5mil as starters.
Because of our incompetent transfer director, when we try to sell a player, we cant make profit, regardless of his market value.
So there is yet another reason not to sell such an expensive player.
Because Melo was one of our best players, we risk to get someone who will not cope as good, why fix smth is aint broken?
so yet another reason not to mess with a 25mil investment.
I cannot stress out the importance of upgrading the weaklings enough. We are as strong as our weaker link, many times the team was working, but once our weakest link shattered, we crashed, to avoid this, we must set as the highest priority to replace our weaklings.
To create a competitive team, we need to add up as may quality players as we can.
So to become extra efficient, we must eradicate our weaklings and replace them with quality players.
Such upgrades have the maximum positive end result on our performance and dont undermine/halt our progress of building up a team with competitive players in every position, as season go by.
As long as we waste all our resources to calibrate the same 2 position, we are falling back in the development pace.
Got that? So why replace a 25mil investment, who does at least a decent job, instead of a weakling?
Why give him away and lose the 25mil? then be forced to replace him by spending at least 10mil more and due to lack of remaing funds again be forced to replace a loaned weakling in the LB (traore) with yet another free player, of low/dubious quality?
Where is the sense lost in that strategy?
Why spend 10more mil to make Quaq a permanent buy, when you believe that he is not reliable enough to be a starter, when you already have DP, Toni, Amauri and Iaq as subs?
Then if you consider him reliable, why spend another 15more mil to buy someone even better? (Vucinic)
Why not spend this cash on Bastos, to secure a starter LW?
Where is the sense on that?
How can you support this stupidity? Just because you like the promise Vidal and Vucinic are emanating?
But have you already forgotten, that Melo and Amauri were emanating the same promise, but they couldnt compensate the failures of our LB, CB and LM and then they became the scapegoats?
Our money are limited, we cannot afford to waste them on opportunity targets, we need to replace the weaklings and since we want to build up a competitive team and we dont challenge for any titles this year, it is the perfect opportunity to buy less quantity, (as we will play less games and wont need them), but more quality players, (so they quality will accumulate with future and past investments to make a competitive squad.)
By selling off a 25mil investement, we cancel a huge investment, made on the past and we create a new whole in the roster,
then we need to buy one more quality starter and our efforts to slowly accumulate a critical amount of starters is becoming more difficult by one more player and is halted for yet another year.
It is a strategical step backwards, in the long run.
And also a tactical unwise step, as we dont upgrade the current squad significantly, since we are replacing one of the very few players who were actually working with another one of similar value.
A replacemeant of a weaker link, would help us more both now and help us accumulate more quality players in the future.
Got the full picture now?
About the numbers.
We have a 25mil investment who is working, we betray him, exclude him from the team, favor others in front of him, due to their nationality, loan him to a team that is known that is in grave economical situation and is threatened to go bankrupt, they also happen to be a team, that they dont pay everything they promise to do (i beleive that they still owe money to Ribery and Hagi), we risk to lose him for 6-8mil, because we know they cant affort more and his contract will expire soon anyway, we may as well release him and lose the full 25mil investment.
So for this particular season, we chose to boot a 25mil player and the only sum we get on our hands is 0,5 and the promise for 1mil in the next 2 years.
Then we buy a new player at 10.5 mil.
So in 2years long we have invested 35mil for to improve a CM position, that was already working.
last year we have offloaded another 25mil CM, for half the money we got him and again overlooked our other issues, again it was considered a priority to the invest the 25 mil, in order to upgrade a 25mil, rather than spend it elsewhere, now again, we invest 10mil to upgrade a new 25mil player.
And the 3 years before we did the same, you follow the pattern here, the accumulated sums we have wasted to fine our CMs?
Now imagine spend those accumulate sums on player playing in other positions?
We did the same with the SS, each and every year for the past 5years.
The accumulates sums wasted on those positions the past 6 year, if invested equally in all position, would give us a competitive team by now.
We wasted all these years without ephemeral gain, or by improving the number of quality players in our squad, because we keep investing on the same 2 positions each and every year.
But why? IMO Lugano is, or at least was way better, he had injuries lately, or is there another reason behind it?
He's quick more than he is fast.
Has good stop/start ability.
Doesn't really use his right foot very much, although he is not afraid to drift towards the center of the pitch.
Very good short distance passer.
Good Crosser, I don't think he's a great crosser
Impeccable on the ball skills, and ball control.
When Lugano was bought he was considered a top buy and as far as i m concerned he is still playing and is considered a top player and still a NT starter.
Alex was promising, but has failed to establish himself in Chelsea due to injuries and so and so performances.
The past years he has a Pirlo number of appearances...
they have similar value, the difference must mostly at fitness levels.
At any case, they are both quality players for our standards, i m mostly worried for Alex's fitness levels and injury proness.
Alex was promising, but has failed to establish himself in Chelsea due to injuries and so and so performances.
The past years he has a Pirlo number of appearances...
they have similar value, the difference must mostly at fitness levels.
At any case, they are both quality players for our standards, i m mostly worried for Alex's fitness levels and injury proness.
I like him.
I remember reading an article about him around 7 or 8 months months ago, and I started watching some bologna matches.
I try to keep up with some of the young players in Serie A.
I saw maybe 6 or 7 matches, and I was impressed. He ended ups starting the last 12 or 13 matches, and he startied to come into his own.
He could play on the wing if needed, and I think that he could play a LM in a 4-3-3
I remember reading an article about him around 7 or 8 months months ago, and I started watching some bologna matches.
I try to keep up with some of the young players in Serie A.
I saw maybe 6 or 7 matches, and I was impressed. He ended ups starting the last 12 or 13 matches, and he startied to come into his own.
He could play on the wing if needed, and I think that he could play a LM in a 4-3-3
not really, i never meant to confuse you, on the contrary, i m always eager to explain with more details what i mean, even to the ones who dont get it with the first...
Dont be shy and feel free to ask me what you dont understand, i cant go in much greater detail in any of the above mentioned subjects,
in a way there are summarys of what i have in mind!
If you are reffering to the Vidal Melo part.
We have invested 25mil on Melo, these 25mil are a strategical investment on a quality player.
If we had a 25mil player in every position, we would be title contenders.
Even if those players dont turned out to be wc, they are at least very competent to dominate serie A.
So we should rather invest on other spots every time we make such an investment, where we have player worthy 0.5-5mil as starters.
Because of our incompetent transfer director, when we try to sell a player, we cant make profit, regardless of his market value.
So there is yet another reason not to sell such an expensive player.
Because Melo was one of our best players, we risk to get someone who will not cope as good, why fix smth is aint broken?
so yet another reason not to mess with a 25mil investment.
I cannot stress out the importance of upgrading the weaklings enough. We are as strong as our weaker link, many times the team was working, but once our weakest link shattered, we crashed, to avoid this, we must set as the highest priority to replace our weaklings.
To create a competitive team, we need to add up as may quality players as we can.
So to become extra efficient, we must eradicate our weaklings and replace them with quality players.
Such upgrades have the maximum positive end result on our performance and dont undermine/halt our progress of building up a team with competitive players in every position, as season go by.
As long as we waste all our resources to calibrate the same 2 position, we are falling back in the development pace.
Got that? So why replace a 25mil investment, who does at least a decent job, instead of a weakling?
Why give him away and lose the 25mil? then be forced to replace him by spending at least 10mil more and due to lack of remaing funds again be forced to replace a loaned weakling in the LB (traore) with yet another free player, of low/dubious quality?
Where is the sense lost in that strategy?
Why spend 10more mil to make Quaq a permanent buy, when you believe that he is not reliable enough to be a starter, when you already have DP, Toni, Amauri and Iaq as subs?
Then if you consider him reliable, why spend another 15more mil to buy someone even better? (Vucinic)
Why not spend this cash on Bastos, to secure a starter LW?
Where is the sense on that?
How can you support this stupidity? Just because you like the promise Vidal and Vucinic are emanating?
But have you already forgotten, that Melo and Amauri were emanating the same promise, but they couldnt compensate the failures of our LB, CB and LM and then they became the scapegoats?
Our money are limited, we cannot afford to waste them on opportunity targets, we need to replace the weaklings and since we want to build up a competitive team and we dont challenge for any titles this year, it is the perfect opportunity to buy less quantity, (as we will play less games and wont need them), but more quality players, (so they quality will accumulate with future and past investments to make a competitive squad.)
By selling off a 25mil investement, we cancel a huge investment, made on the past and we create a new whole in the roster,
then we need to buy one more quality starter and our efforts to slowly accumulate a critical amount of starters is becoming more difficult by one more player and is halted for yet another year.
It is a strategical step backwards, in the long run.
And also a tactical unwise step, as we dont upgrade the current squad significantly, since we are replacing one of the very few players who were actually working with another one of similar value.
A replacemeant of a weaker link, would help us more both now and help us accumulate more quality players in the future.
Got the full picture now?
About the numbers.
We have a 25mil investment who is working, we betray him, exclude him from the team, favor others in front of him, due to their nationality, loan him to a team that is known that is in grave economical situation and is threatened to go bankrupt, they also happen to be a team, that they dont pay everything they promise to do (i beleive that they still owe money to Ribery and Hagi), we risk to lose him for 6-8mil, because we know they cant affort more and his contract will expire soon anyway, we may as well release him and lose the full 25mil investment.
So for this particular season, we chose to boot a 25mil player and the only sum we get on our hands is 0,5 and the promise for 1mil in the next 2 years.
Then we buy a new player at 10.5 mil.
So in 2years long we have invested 35mil for to improve a CM position, that was already working.
last year we have offloaded another 25mil CM, for half the money we got him and again overlooked our other issues, again it was considered a priority to the invest the 25 mil, in order to upgrade a 25mil, rather than spend it elsewhere, now again, we invest 10mil to upgrade a new 25mil player.
And the 3 years before we did the same, you follow the pattern here, the accumulated sums we have wasted to fine our CMs?
Now imagine spend those accumulate sums on player playing in other positions?
We did the same with the SS, each and every year for the past 5years.
The accumulates sums wasted on those positions the past 6 year, if invested equally in all position, would give us a competitive team by now.
We wasted all these years without ephemeral gain, or by improving the number of quality players in our squad, because we keep investing on the same 2 positions each and every year.
But why? IMO Lugano is, or at least was way better, he had injuries lately, or is there another reason behind it?
Dont be shy and feel free to ask me what you dont understand, i cant go in much greater detail in any of the above mentioned subjects,
in a way there are summarys of what i have in mind!
If you are reffering to the Vidal Melo part.
We have invested 25mil on Melo, these 25mil are a strategical investment on a quality player.
If we had a 25mil player in every position, we would be title contenders.
Even if those players dont turned out to be wc, they are at least very competent to dominate serie A.
So we should rather invest on other spots every time we make such an investment, where we have player worthy 0.5-5mil as starters.
Because of our incompetent transfer director, when we try to sell a player, we cant make profit, regardless of his market value.
So there is yet another reason not to sell such an expensive player.
Because Melo was one of our best players, we risk to get someone who will not cope as good, why fix smth is aint broken?
so yet another reason not to mess with a 25mil investment.
I cannot stress out the importance of upgrading the weaklings enough. We are as strong as our weaker link, many times the team was working, but once our weakest link shattered, we crashed, to avoid this, we must set as the highest priority to replace our weaklings.
To create a competitive team, we need to add up as may quality players as we can.
So to become extra efficient, we must eradicate our weaklings and replace them with quality players.
Such upgrades have the maximum positive end result on our performance and dont undermine/halt our progress of building up a team with competitive players in every position, as season go by.
As long as we waste all our resources to calibrate the same 2 position, we are falling back in the development pace.
Got that? So why replace a 25mil investment, who does at least a decent job, instead of a weakling?
Why give him away and lose the 25mil? then be forced to replace him by spending at least 10mil more and due to lack of remaing funds again be forced to replace a loaned weakling in the LB (traore) with yet another free player, of low/dubious quality?
Where is the sense lost in that strategy?
Why spend 10more mil to make Quaq a permanent buy, when you believe that he is not reliable enough to be a starter, when you already have DP, Toni, Amauri and Iaq as subs?
Then if you consider him reliable, why spend another 15more mil to buy someone even better? (Vucinic)
Why not spend this cash on Bastos, to secure a starter LW?
Where is the sense on that?
How can you support this stupidity? Just because you like the promise Vidal and Vucinic are emanating?
But have you already forgotten, that Melo and Amauri were emanating the same promise, but they couldnt compensate the failures of our LB, CB and LM and then they became the scapegoats?
Our money are limited, we cannot afford to waste them on opportunity targets, we need to replace the weaklings and since we want to build up a competitive team and we dont challenge for any titles this year, it is the perfect opportunity to buy less quantity, (as we will play less games and wont need them), but more quality players, (so they quality will accumulate with future and past investments to make a competitive squad.)
By selling off a 25mil investement, we cancel a huge investment, made on the past and we create a new whole in the roster,
then we need to buy one more quality starter and our efforts to slowly accumulate a critical amount of starters is becoming more difficult by one more player and is halted for yet another year.
It is a strategical step backwards, in the long run.
And also a tactical unwise step, as we dont upgrade the current squad significantly, since we are replacing one of the very few players who were actually working with another one of similar value.
A replacemeant of a weaker link, would help us more both now and help us accumulate more quality players in the future.
Got the full picture now?
About the numbers.
We have a 25mil investment who is working, we betray him, exclude him from the team, favor others in front of him, due to their nationality, loan him to a team that is known that is in grave economical situation and is threatened to go bankrupt, they also happen to be a team, that they dont pay everything they promise to do (i beleive that they still owe money to Ribery and Hagi), we risk to lose him for 6-8mil, because we know they cant affort more and his contract will expire soon anyway, we may as well release him and lose the full 25mil investment.
So for this particular season, we chose to boot a 25mil player and the only sum we get on our hands is 0,5 and the promise for 1mil in the next 2 years.
Then we buy a new player at 10.5 mil.
So in 2years long we have invested 35mil for to improve a CM position, that was already working.
last year we have offloaded another 25mil CM, for half the money we got him and again overlooked our other issues, again it was considered a priority to the invest the 25 mil, in order to upgrade a 25mil, rather than spend it elsewhere, now again, we invest 10mil to upgrade a new 25mil player.
And the 3 years before we did the same, you follow the pattern here, the accumulated sums we have wasted to fine our CMs?
Now imagine spend those accumulate sums on player playing in other positions?
We did the same with the SS, each and every year for the past 5years.
The accumulates sums wasted on those positions the past 6 year, if invested equally in all position, would give us a competitive team by now.
We wasted all these years without ephemeral gain, or by improving the number of quality players in our squad, because we keep investing on the same 2 positions each and every year.
But why? IMO Lugano is, or at least was way better, he had injuries lately, or is there another reason behind it?
I really need help quoting this several times.
The main reason he wasn't a regular starter for Chelsea is because they owned 2 of the world's best CBs, Terry and Carvalho. A thigh injury last season prevented him to become a sure starter. Poor performances have nothing to do with Alex not starting most of the matches for Chelsea. He wasn't poor at all.
True that, of course.
And even being a sub in EPL,esp in a highly competitive team like Chelsea means a lot about a players fitness.
Both players are underrated, one due to his role and the other due to the league his playing, i like underrating players, they tend to have great value for money.
I m only worried about Alex's fitness levels, not his value.
BTW is that young Gigi Becali and Hagi in your avatar?
And even being a sub in EPL,esp in a highly competitive team like Chelsea means a lot about a players fitness.
Both players are underrated, one due to his role and the other due to the league his playing, i like underrating players, they tend to have great value for money.
I m only worried about Alex's fitness levels, not his value.
BTW is that young Gigi Becali and Hagi in your avatar?
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