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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,149
Don't know how it pertains to Euro soccer but in US sports usually coaches the level of Conte, Kloop, and Zidane would prefer going to a team that already had a decent squad with only a few additions needed. Seems easier to do a 180 going from bad to good in on e year. with soccer. What quality manager would want come here knowing all the work to be done? Juve have to put out big bucks to get him and don't see it happening.

Keeping Giuntoli would sadly astonish me and #1 priority should be him gone.
There is no soccer in Europe. We do have football, as majority of the world calls it.
 

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Feb 12, 2006
69,194
and that inda was a complete mess post mourinho, pre marotta. they fired like a dozen between 2011 and '19

also conte was fired from pre gasp atalanta and was replaced by bortolo mutti :baus: so what
Sounds no different to us

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Why are people against Mancini? He did well with an aging Italy. Not the worst choice imo
He also failed to qualify for the world cup, and a disaster for Saudi.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,104
di matteo won a cl, ten hag won an fa cup and 3 dutch league titles, tuchel won cl, bundesliga, ligue 1, benitez won cl, fa cup, coppa italia, el, la liga. i'd take gasp over either of them

atalanta was a small club before gasp. he turned them into an europa league winner from a relegation battler. he's easily one of the most consistent coaches of the last decade
He? Atalanta management takes just as much credit imo and a lot of other big teams were letdowns after covid. It's far from solely his achievement.
He deserves another shot imo but he's not a certainty like some other coaches would be. All I'm saying.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
34,204
Why are people against Mancini? He did well with an aging Italy. Not the worst choice imo
not a true leader in my eyes. sarri called him a finocchio and a frocio and while i wouldn't use those words, he wasn't completely wrong. he's a bit like inzaghi in that regard, i just don't want THAT on our sidelines :boh: and he hasn't coached in a proper league for almost a decade. winning the euros with that italy squad was quite an achievement, but other than that, he is yet to produce something commendable since 2012. he'd probably ask for a huge salary too. and he's allegedly dedicated to his little save samp project

i could give you 10 better names in my eyes before him
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,558
There will be a new name on the coach carousel come monday

It will be De Zerbi or Farioli.



Not sure on Farioli since I don't watch Ajax games, but I rate De Zerbi despite his flaws.

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Acceptance stage

I guess Gasperini would be the best choice of a bad bunch

It's not an acceptance stage. Yes he has flaws defensively, is bit violatile and his style will take time to implement. But fact of the matter is Gasperini has been a fantastic coach for past decade.

I don't why people disregard what a highly competent coaching story he has achieved with Atalanta (not to forget taking Genoa to CL). It's unheard of in modern football to turn a small club to a competitive force based on your football system that can replace anyone and just keep on performing as well.


That's pure coaching ability.
 
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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
34,204
He? Atalanta management takes just as much credit imo and a lot of other big teams were letdowns after covid. It's far from solely his achievement.
He deserves another shot imo but he's not a certainty like some other coaches would be.
more or less the same management has been in place since 2010. while their youth sector has been excellent before gasp already, their first team got relegated, returned to serie a, then finished between 11th and 17th place before gasp. with gasperini, they finished 4th in his first season and achieved european qualification with the exception of one single season. their ranking always were better than their comparative financial power. now they are around top5 which is due to their cl revenue only

yes, they are a well managed club. but saying that atalanta wouldn't be a regular top3 italian club without gasp isn't a stretch at all

looks like conte is the only one who's close to being any kind of certainty. gasp is a good coach
 
Mar 3, 2017
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It will be De Zerbi or Farioli.



Not sure on Farioli since I don't watch Ajax games, but I rate De Zerbi despite his flaws.

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It's not an acceptance stage. Yes he has flaws defensively, is bit violatile and his style will take time to implement. But fact of the matter is Gasperini has been a fantastic coach for past decade.

I don't why people disregard what a highly competent coaching story he has achieved with Atalanta (not to forget taking Genoa to CL). It's unheard of in modern football to turn a small club to a competitive force based on your football system that can replace anyone and just keep on performing as well.


That's pure coaching ability.
People hold those 5 games at Inter 15 years ago with more intensity than 15 years of fantastic coaching between Genoa and Atalanta.

Inter almost competed with Zamparini back then in the coaching carrousel. They had 3 coaches in the season when Gasperini was hired and fired.

Since Conte is out I definitely hope we get Gasperini. Yes he is an asshole and he fights with players with big egos, but we don't have superstars at Juve now. Most of our players need a disciplinarian and an obsessive coach like gasp (or conte) is.
 
Mar 12, 2004
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and that inda was a complete mess post mourinho, pre marotta. they fired like a dozen between 2011 and '19

also conte was fired from pre gasp atalanta and was replaced by bortolo mutti :baus: so what
He also tried to play 343 with this prehistoric Defence...

Cordoba aged 35
Luicio 34
Samuel 34
Maicon 30
Zanetti 38
Chivu 31

Was old men chasing after young opposition attackers so no wonder it didn't go well.
 
Feb 12, 2006
69,194
Agree but who should we get? Conte can't be the only option
As far as i can tell its really Tudor or nothing. I'm not quite believing the stories of Gasp being a possibility for us. Asides from that who else is there really? Zidane still holding out for the France NT job which will be available soon. Asides from that? Roger Schmidt?
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
34,204
He also tried to play 343 with this prehistoric Defence...

Cordoba aged 35
Luicio 34
Samuel 34
Maicon 30
Zanetti 38
Chivu 31

Was old men chasing after young opposition attackers so no wonder it didn't go well.
exactly, and inda never played in a 3 man defense with the same players. previous inda coaches (mancini, mourinho, leonardo, benitez, maybe i'm forgetting someone) all used a 4-man backline

anyway, it was a terrible match and gasp was not ready either. now those results are irrelevant. he can still flop at jj, but if it was up to me, i wouldn't exclude gasp just because that colossal failure at inda
 

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