Frederik Sørensen (18 Viewers)

[Fake Melo]

Except for when he lost concentration and allowed Eto'o an open goal.

Sorensen is very promising, but I wouldn't start him every week yet.

Keep him as backup right back and fourth choice CB and give him some playing time without putting too much pressure on him.

His ballwatching have cost us and almost cost us against Inter, this is the Gio-case over again. Our fans see a youngster do well, they totally forget his mistakes and only praise him for things he do well.

I agree that Delneri is not the best coach in the world, but he is not a blind man. If there was nothing wrong with Sørensen, he would be starting. It's frickin absurd to say he should be playing every week.

 

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[swag]

Except for when he lost concentration and allowed Eto'o an open goal.

I knew someone would have to bring this up.

Yeah, fortunately Eto'o has been a big choker this season on occasion. But if that was Motta, he would have headed it in for him.

 

[Red]

I've never seen a single moment of a match used so much to justify not playing someone.

If that's all people have got, they are really clutching at straws.

I'm not saying I wouldn't start him at the moment.

I just wouldn't give him a whole lot of praise for the Inter game because he made a huge mistake in it.

He's done very well in general, though.

 

[Red]

I knew someone would have to bring this up.

Yeah, fortunately Eto'o has been a big choker this season on occasion. But if that was Motta, he would have headed it in for him.

Motta doesn't like heading the ball, because it messes up his utterly ludicrous hair-do.

He would just have been even further out of position than Sorensen was.

 

[Bjerknes]

His ballwatching have cost us and almost cost us against Inter, this is the Gio-case over again. Our fans see a youngster do well, they totally forget his mistakes and only praise him for things he do well.

I agree that Delneri is not the best coach in the world, but he is not a blind man. If there was nothing wrong with Sørensen, he would be starting. It's frickin absurd to say he should be playing every week.

Name some examples of his ball-watching "costing us".

He should be playing every week when the other option is Motta, no doubt about it. He has been the better performer. PERIOD.

 

[Fake Melo]

Name some examples of his ball-watching "costing us".

He should be playing every week when the other option is Motta, no doubt about it. He has been the better performer. PERIOD.

Don't remember if it was ballwatching or he lost Giovinco, but the 0-2 goal was his fault.
Pretty sure Pelissiers goal was ballwatching.
Got ripped off on Baris goal in January.

I get that he is a kid and everyone makes mistakes. But there is a limit on praising a player. He has done well for us as a kid who never played first-team football in his life.

I am not saying that Motta has been better than him, but for obvious reasons Sørensen was even dropped from the squad as result of "mental tiredness"
We should not push him to hard.

 

[swag]

Yeah, yeah - it may be Goal.com. But since Sorenson's name isn't on this list on Goal.com today, he's automatically qualified in my book.

 

[Red]

Yeah, yeah - it may be Goal.com. But since Sorenson's name isn't on this list on Goal.com today, he's automatically qualified in my book.

He's on 5.65, as an average rating from the three main papers.

Level with Riise and just ahead of Milito.

 

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His ballwatching have cost us and almost cost us against Inter, this is the Gio-case over again. Our fans see a youngster do well, they totally forget his mistakes and only praise him for things he do well.

I agree that Delneri is not the best coach in the world, but he is not a blind man. If there was nothing wrong with Sørensen, he would be starting. It's frickin absurd to say he should be playing every week.

Oh well if Del Neri doesn't play him every week...

Come on, he could have a "ballwatching" moment every match and the right flank will still be much less of a weak point than it is with Motta or Grygera.

 

[suligodsilla]

What mistake? Conceding a corner? I hope that's not what you meant.

he should have headed it to storari there were no moherfuckers around him
and he headed the ball to corner. and he is a cb god damn not a rb. you guys are very weird you are asking for more firepower and when del neri plays motta who offensivly is not that bad then you are asking yourself why del neri does not play sorensen who can defend better than motta. i like also freddy dont misunderstand me, but he makes sometimes very silly mistakes. so he should be at juve but he is not our solution for the rb position. lets loan him out where he can play in his natural position and developes himself dont destroy him with this expirements.

 

[Bjerknes]

Don't remember if it was ballwatching or he lost Giovinco, but the 0-2 goal was his fault.
Pretty sure Pelissiers goal was ballwatching.
Got ripped off on Baris goal in January.

I get that he is a kid and everyone makes mistakes. But there is a limit on praising a player. He has done well for us as a kid who never played first-team football in his life.

I am not saying that Motta has been better than him, but for obvious reasons Sørensen was even dropped from the squad as result of "mental tiredness"
We should not push him to hard.

Giovinco goal wasn't Sorensen's fault, he just couldn't reach the cross and Bonucci was out of position. The Pellesier goal was a bit of ball watching and not being goal-side. And on the third he was skinned at the line, but the goal wasn't his fault because the rest of the team was ball-watching, including what looks to be either Melo or Aquilani. I remember that goal because everyone was giving the Dane a hard time when everyone else did jack squat to close down the scorer.

But go ahead and blast him for all those, he's still better than Motta by quite some margin. Sorensen has not been perfect but for being played out position and the other surrounding circumstances, he deserves all the praise he's getting.

 

[Fake Melo]

He was not marking Giovinco there, even if Bonucci wasn't there he should have been backing up. He also was clueless against Lecce a week after great performance against Eto'o.

DN have taken him out during the match as its clear that there is something going on with him.

I bet he would have been a mediocre mid-table team player if he was Italian though...

 

[Bjerknes]

He was not marking Giovinco there, even if Bonucci wasn't there he should have been backing up.

Really? Even with another attacker in front of him?

Sorry, wrong there.

 

[Fake Melo]

Really? Even with another attacker in front of him?

Sorry, wrong there.

Really don't think he was thinking about that player as he could have called Legro to back him up there. I guess the inexperience got to him as he slipped as well.

Edit: Or didn't slip as much it looked like.

 

[Red]

Really? Even with another attacker in front of him?

Sorry, wrong there.

Sorensen and Legrottaglie are pretty much in position there.

The problem must have been earlier in the move to cause Juve to be out-numbered like that.

 

[Fake Melo]

Sorensen and Legrottaglie are pretty much in position there.

The problem must have been earlier in the move to cause Juve to be out-numbered like that.

IMO Legro should have gone all the way to cover his man. Would be better if they played the ball out again instead of inside the box.

 

[Hust]

I've never seen a single moment of a match used so much to justify not playing someone.

If that's all people have got, they are really clutching at straws.

Exactly. If this is how a player that is 18 is to be judged then we should judge our big earners the same way. Everytime Chiellini or Buffon make a mistake then it is up to DN to play someone else. Everytime someone scores a goal against a team it is because someone in our team made a mistake. Essentially I get the feeling that with this line of harsh judgement against Sorensen, if it were equally given to the other players we would be forced to play our Primavera because no one would be playing.

His ballwatching have cost us and almost cost us against Inter, this is the Gio-case over again. Our fans see a youngster do well, they totally forget his mistakes and only praise him for things he do well.

I agree that Delneri is not the best coach in the world, but he is not a blind man. If there was nothing wrong with Sørensen, he would be starting. It's frickin absurd to say he should be playing every week.

If you are going to say that about youngsters then you better be saying it about our "top players". No one criticized Camoranesi for being a loose cannon every once in a while. But results are results and Sorensen is producing them consistently well just as Camoranesi did, even though the momentary lapse of concentration cost us at times, the good far out weighed the bad and this is exactly the case.

You are right about one thing though, this is the Gio-case all over again. As soon as a young player starts doing well we clam up and they lose our faith and its bloody disgraceful because you can see it whenever Motta or Grygera play instead of Sorensen. Besides, earlier you initial argument was that he should not be playing for 90 mins and that is far off of what your argument is now.

Name some examples of his ball-watching "costing us".

He should be playing every week when the other option is Motta, no doubt about it. He has been the better performer. PERIOD.

Let's find any Chiellini brain lapses and talk about how he isn't mentally ready to play every week either. It is insane, either you have it or you don't. No defender is perfect and mistakes will always be made but as we have seen this year Sorensen's good play as FAR OUT WEIGHED his bad play. PERIOD.

Oh well if Del Neri doesn't play him every week...

Come on, he could have a "ballwatching" moment every match and the right flank will still be much less of a weak point than it is with Motta or Grygera.

Most goals scored are because of a defender ball watching or not tracking his man or being out of position...that's what is so hard about being a defender is reading the game, the threats and the players you are marking...there are so many variables to consider it's disgusting that ONE ball watching moment over shadows the good things an 18 year old is doing in this club. It's really sad.

I see a repeat of Giovinco all over again. You have a great young athlete doing everything that he is asked to do but regardless he gets benched by the old faithful.

 

[Hust]

I know one thing for sure, I would fucking hate to be a youth player trying to break into the first team at Juventus because the moment I make ONE mistake I'm finished. That is sad. There is no faith and if there is no faith we will never have any worthwhile youth academy.

Let's just fucking buy everyone.

 

[Bjerknes]

It was 4 Parma players against 3 Juventini. A skilled player is going to capitalize on that, which is exactly what they did. Even if Legro back-tracked they could have slot it diagonally to the near player who could have slotted home near post.

 

[Fake Melo]

TBH I wanted to stop reading after you compared Camo to Freddy, Cam.
But I see where you're getting at, we don't have any better RB option than Grygera, Motta and Sorensen. But when the management feels that Sørensen would not be up for a match every week I don't really blame them.
I'm off now, good night.