Formula One 2007 (7 Viewers)

Apr 15, 2006
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:lol: what a way to retire for Hami... but still a great way to head into the final round!!! who wud've written a script for this one! :lol: :D

i want either Alonso or (worst case) Kimi to win the championship!
 

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Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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1. Hamilton ... 107
2. Alonso ... 103
3. Raikonnen ... 100

It's gonna be one hell of a race in Brazil.
F1 has become so predictable and fake:sick:
we all somehow knew, that Hamilton wouldnt allow to win this ...one way or the other... just for the shake of spectacle...and for the dramatic finale, how convinient his exit was, for everyone!!!:shifty:
why wouldnt he change tires, when it was so blatantly obvious that he should
have done than many rounds before??

I m sure that Kimi hasnt got any realistic chances to win the tittle, even if he and Massa win the first two positions,its too late now for Ferrari to start showing and reability or consistency. Anyway we have to be pleased with a title we might or we might not worth of...:shifty:

I wish though, that lucky Fernando's luck, will end here:shifty:
Hamilton is more worthy of a champion than he is, he said that himself!
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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TBH, I really dont see how you can say Hamilton wasnt allowed to win this race, it was his fault and the fault of his team.
 
May 22, 2007
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Im looking for a G_O_A_T!

Ok, onto the race. I'm delighted as I have said.

I found the wet part a bit boring but when the dry tyres were needed, it got better and you saw who was better in which conditions (Renaults surging back up the field).

McLaren made a huge mistake with Lewis, he clearly should have been brought in earlier. He had it coming when you go into the pit entrance at that speed though, was lucky. Weren't Alonso's tyres being brought out aswell? That could prove that Lewis isn't favoured (over Nando).

On Ferrari, we looked good. Not much more to say really. Felipe could have tagged onto the back of Alonso I felt but I'm not too bothered as I feel Alonso should get them points, so Lewis doesn't win the championship. Well done Kimi anyway, drove a good race. Massa did good to take the fastest lap so I'm happy for that. And well done Toro Rosso on getting both drivers in the points, especially Vettel. He looks like a very promising driver.

Brazil will be amazingly tense...
 
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JuveAdam

JuveAdam

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Sep 12, 2006
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    200!


    forza Kimi e grazie.

    Now lets win in Brasil, & see where the title ends.

    Ross Brawn to return, & Ferrrari to conquer all in 2008.....
     

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    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
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    TBH, I really dont see how you can say Hamilton wasnt allowed to win this race, it was his fault and the fault of his team.
    How can u understand it was his fault?
    I mean, if he was paid 2$mil to lose that race,wouldnt he pick that place as an ideal one,just look at that, he parked that near pits...:rofl: another coincidence, of the convinient for every1 Hamilton exit
    Or maybe, some Alonso fan, within the team, stalled that pit so much, that Lewis had no more grip, due to finished tyres, to finish the lap...

    I would call it a coincidence under normal circumstances, but i have seen a lot of similar things happening in F1 during the last rounds and i know for sure that some ppl would do anything to keep F1 exciting and interesting to the last second,
    o well, whatever, more joy to the fans...
     

    Zlatan

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    Jun 9, 2003
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    Well, you're making things up now.


    First of all, why would he take money when he's getting a new 15 mil € per year contract from McLaren and he's gonna be huge in terms of marketing, sponsorships etc.


    Secondly, not just anyone can stall a pitstop. The decision comes from the top men, and they're all Lewis fans.
     
    May 22, 2007
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    It was an error by McLaren in my opinion. Kimi took 2 or 3 seconds off Lewis each lap, that was the time to be called in, while Kimi was gaining rapidly.
     

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    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
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    Well, you're making things up now.
    First of all, why would he take money when he's getting a new 15 mil € per year contract from McLaren and he's gonna be huge in terms of marketing, sponsorships etc.
    Secondly, not just anyone can stall a pitstop. The decision comes from the top men, and they're all Lewis fans.
    It was mostly a joke, but for the sake of discussion, ill go one step further:p
    C mon man u have seen calciopoli, IF they wanted to fix things up and pay Hamilton 1-2 mil more for the spectacle, he wouldnt lose anything from his salary,
    besides he might was given guarantees too that Alonso will have a similar "incident" in the next race:pumpkin: I m sure that, if they really want to make it look that way, they can...

    "McLaren F1 boss Martin Whitmarsh admitted his team left Hamilton out on track a lap too long and that pushed his tyres past their limit."

    I m just suspicious of how predictable this situation was, most of the fans prayed Hamilton will get no more points and most of the F1 articles were saying that Hamilton wins here, the championship will be over, but if somehow, something happens to him again, the championship will become very interesting:angel:
    Isnt it strange that Hamilton did his worst mistake of the season right when everyone expected that, isnt it too convinient for everyone? It looks like Genoa-Napoli draw to me...:p

    The strategy and reliability of Alonso's car demonstrates that Mclaren (as a team) doesnt neglect him, he is the world champion and represents the image of the team, he is very popular among the fans, he is very important to the team,
    not as important as (Ron+Lewis i reckon), this is going to be a long drama,
    God forbid Alonso to join Ferrari:tdown:
     

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    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
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    Ferrari to use aggressive approach to final race
    08 October 2007

    Ferrari driver Kimi Raikkonen still has a small chance of winning the 2007 Formula One world championship. The Fin is seven points behind on Raikkonen so theoretically there is still a chance for him to win the title in Brazil. To keep all chances open Ferrari's sporting director Stefano Domenicali said the team will take an aggressive approach for the final race.


    "If we look at the next race, we don't have any other choice than to be aggressive. We need to achieve first and second and then that's it. That, for sure, will be our strategy." Ferrari sporting director Stefano Domenicali said.

    Domenicali went on to praise Raikkonen in the way he attacked Hamilton but had it contributed to the McLaren driver under steering off into a gravel trap as he was entering the pits? "I don't know," admitted Domenicali. "To be honest maybe he was struggling with the tyres, but Kimi was there, he was just behind, he was attacking at the right moment and it was important to avoid any kind of contact because you never know. At this stage, contact for us would have been dramatic because the championship would have been over, so that shows how Kimi was so cool to be right in the way to attack Hamilton."

    Domenicali was asked if the rivalry between the two McLaren drivers perhaps could play into Ferrari's hands. "We need to look within our cars," he replied. "It's already difficult because we need to be first and second and then we will see, but for sure, with all due respect, we understand that the pressure is high on both of their drivers. The only thing that I can say is that we will focus on our job and that's it to be honest. We respect the work of the others but what we are going to do is to try to put pressure on them, that's for sure."

    Pressure had something to do with the Chinese tactics, too. "Talking about this race, after the first pit stop, we were just tackling what Hamilton was ready to do, because we knew that he basically put less fuel into the car in comparison to our stop. Of course we were just controlling the pace and checking what was the situation. We knew at that stage that we could be in front, so it was much easier."

    So was Ferrari surprised by Hamilton's mistake? "You know, when you are under pressure or you are pragmatic, you can make mistakes everywhere. That shows how is Formula One and maybe he was thinking it was the easiest part of his race, but that's racing," concluded Domenicali.







    Hamilton still favourite - Alonso

    Despite a better than expected result at the Chinese Grand Prix in which Fernando Alonso took eight points out of Lewis Hamilton's lead and gave himself a fighting chance of defending his crown in Brazil, he insists the British driver is still the firm favourite.

    "It will still be very difficult because it won't be easy to take four points away from Lewis," Alonso said. "I need something dramatic to happen to win the championship now. If it's a normal race, it'll be impossible."
     
    May 22, 2007
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    To denounce the irregularities which have taken place during the 2007 F1 championship

    As witnesses of the events which have taken place during the 2007 F1 championship, and as admirers of this sport, we feel obliged to publicly denounce the irregularities which have occurred, clearly showing that the driver, L. Hamilton has benefited from the favors of his team, generating serious damages for his companion F. Alonso, whose career has suffered from the lack of interest of both his team and the International Federation of Automobile.

    The proven facts and presumed irregularities are the following:

    G.P. of Barhein (15-04-07) Strangely, F. Alonso’s car encountered troubles in night conditions, on a statement of his own team, which prevented him from following the rhythm of his companion, whose car was functioning perfectly. L. Hamilton changed his trajectory several times, which is absolutely prohibited, but he was not sanctioned.

    G.P. of Monaco (27-05-07) A few laps from the end, the team ordered both drivers to go below 19.000 r.p.m. L. Hamilton, refused to obey his team and tried to overtake his companion. Not succeeding in doing so, he complained to the FIA and the British Media after the end of the race, provoking an investigation and a high pressure on F. Alonso. The team took no measure whatsoever towards L. Hamilton, and did not support F. Alonso. Moreover, during the race, L. Hamilton frequently stepped over the continuous line when exiting the pit lane, which is totally prohibited. But he was not sanctioned in any way by the FIA

    G.P. of Canada (10-06-07) Strange behavior of F. Alonso’s car. Once more, the number one car was not in the same mechanical conditions than L. Hamilton’s car.

    G.P. of the USA (17-06-07) Once more, the pit stop strategies were in favor of L. Hamilton and detrimental to F. Alonso.

    G.P. of France (01-07-07) Strangely, before the rain forecast, F. Alonso faced problems with his gear case during Q3, ending up on the tenth position of the starting grid whereas his companion L. Hamilton encountered no problems at all. De La Rosa explained during the race that this spare part had been perfectly identified and removed.

    G.P. of Germany (22-07-07) Peculiar reaction of the race controllers when facing L. Hamilton’s slip off the track, a crane put him back on the track, creating risks of collision with other pilots. Even more peculiar is that the other drivers were not placed back on the track regarding the moment they slipped off; only L. Hamilton benefitted from an immediate return on the track. Although the rules clearly specify that a driver must turn off his engine and get out of his car, like the rest of the drivers did, he was not penalised.

    G.P. of Hungary (05-08-07) A supplementary lap was given to F. Alonso in Q3. L. Hamilton disobeying his team’s orders entered the boxes to change his tyres on his own will, right behind F. Alonso, who was given used tyres. The following moment, L. Hamilton was equipped with a brand new pair of tyres. Nevertheless, F. Alonso succeeded in earning the pole position, to the apparent disappointment of Ron Dennis. Thus, L. Hamilton denounced F. Alonso again to the FIA and, consequently, he lost 5 positions on the starting grid, following the application of an inexistent rule, and McLaren also lost its constructor points earned during this race. Unexplainably, no sanction was applied to L. Hamilton after this race.

    G.P. of Italy (09-09-07) L. Hamilton placed his car diagonally when positioning himself on the starting grid, and made several trajectory changes without being sanctioned.

    G.P. of Belgium (16-09-07) Presumed sabotage attempt on F. Alonso’s car. His manager declared that during the free practice sessions, F. Alonso discovered that something was wrong with his power unit, asking his mechanics to revise his car, and then discovering that the top of his oil tank was missing. It is common knowledge that it only needs a simple lap to destroy a motor in such conditions.

    G.P. of Japan (30-07-07) Inexplicably, F. Alonso encountered new tyre problems during Q3, as he stated himself after the qualifications. Once more, L. Hamilton obtained a supplementary lap with new tyres and a small quantity of gas, permitting him to earn the pole position. During the race, both drivers were victims of a collision. However, only the driver who collisioned with L. Hamilton was sanctioned, whereas it was F. Alonso who suffered serious damage in his car. He was not warned of the damage on his car, which led him to crash without much reaction from the members of his team. After the accident, when behind the safety-car, L. Hamilton played once more with the rules, provoking an accident between Weber and Vettel, without being sanctioned during or after the race, even when new evidence was given to the FIA.

    G.P. of China (06-10-07) Once more, F. Alonso encountered problems in Q3, after having been faster than his companion during the free practice sessions, and the first two qualifying sessions. When F. Alonso was on the podium to celebrate his second position, after L. Hamilton resigned, only one mechanic from McLaren was there to celebrate the victory. After the race, Ron Dennis publicly declared that the struggle during the race was not against Ferrari, but against F. Alonso, who is now considered by his team as an opponent.

    Once these facts have been analyzed, we consider there is enough evidence to confirm that the equal treatment between the two drivers has not been respected by McLaren or by the FIA with the application of the Formula 1 rules.

    Consequently, with the signatures located at:
    http://www.petitiononline.com/fealonso/petition.html
    we publicly denounce all these irregularities and express our deepest rejection of all that has happened during this 2007 F1 Championship.

    All this information has been gathered by the Safety-car forum members at:
    http://www.safety-car.net.

    Best Regards!
    It is a bit long but a good read. I have taken to Alonso a bit this season, now he isn't under Flavio's armpit he seems to have become more bearable. He will not be a McLaren driver next year in my opinion. I also heard Fernando's agent say that "the truth will come out and you will be shocked to hear it" so I am eagerly anticipating what has happened in this past season.
     

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    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
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    WOW i have never seen such a biased opinion and favor towards a driver before!!!
    Every random mechanical failure or random tactical choice was a conspiracy against poor Alonso???
    ha ha ha LMAO ha ha ha
    what a sore loser, i knew we would have seen his true colors this year!
    Alonso was owned by Hamilton many times over, too many times for his proud to shallow, thats why he is leaving Mcalren and i m confident he is too scared to become Kimi's teammate too!

    But as a Ferrari fan, i m glad that Mclaren will have a lot of internal problems to face,
    they wont be able to compete with us next year...
     

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