"Footballically"-Starved Cities (1 Viewer)

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by Geof ] ++
Yeah, Bordeaux was a nice club some years ago, but they didn't achieve anything big.
As for the Swiss, they've always been pretty lame in football; but what happened to Servette Genève (It's Genève not Geneva,stop translating, OK :D) lately stunned me! What happened in there?? The Swiss are mostly knowed to be good managers and bankers...
I couldn't think of the French name :embarass: But yeah that was surprising

Dublin is smthing else I guess, they're just not interested in footie. All they care about is Rugby, which is a great sport btw.
Oh I know. I love rugby!

For Belgium, Antwerp isn't really brillant lately. They had FC Antwerp, the oldest club of Belgium (celebrating it's 125th aniversary this year!) aka "The great Old", who played the Final of the cup winners' cup, but that's all. Newly formed fusion club GBA (Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen) is yet to prove anything.
Can't believe I forgot about Antwerpen :wallbang: That city isn't big enough for two such clubs though. They should really merge.

AA Gent needs to step on it too. That new stadium might help an inch with more financial resources.
 

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Geof

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May 14, 2004
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#22
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Can't believe I forgot about Antwerpen :wallbang: That city isn't big enough for two such clubs though. They should really merge.
Maybe it's just Belgium that's too small for several "big" clubs. Brugge, Anderlecht, Standard, and Genk should merge, and maybe it'll be competitive on European level....

joking if course
 

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Mar 6, 2005
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#23
++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
Most people in Turin dont support Juventus though
Not quite true.. It's a myth actually.. There was a survey done that showed there was quite a large Juventus fanbase in Turin.. more than Torino..

Though one might question the credibility of that survey.. damn I wish I could remember where I read it..
 

Slagathor

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#24
++ [ originally posted by Geof ] ++
Maybe it's just Belgium that's too small for several "big" clubs. Brugge, Anderlecht, Standard, and Genk should merge, and maybe it'll be competitive on European level....

joking if course
Just one big Belgian club located in Brussels then? Sounds like a plan :D

Oohh come on, if we can produce clubs that can reach the semi-finals of the CL and UEFAcup then so can you surely! I mean, we're tiny for god's sake!
 

Geof

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++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


Just one big Belgian club located in Brussels then? Sounds like a plan :D

Oohh come on, if we can produce clubs that can reach the semi-finals of the CL and UEFAcup then so can you surely! I mean, we're tiny for god's sake!
yeah I know but somehow Ajax lead the way to the present succes of PSV, we have nothing like that in here.

And it might also be cultural. I'm amazed by how small belgian people think. It's like we always thend to thnk: "oh, you know, we're only Belgium, we're so small, we don't significate much on the international level..." I'm sick of that lack of ambition.

Look at Anderlecht: they had a great team 5 years ago, they managed to beat Man f*ckin United!! the next summer, they sold all the stars: Koller, Radzinski, Goor,....
Same now: they sold Aruna Dindane, the Ivorian Diamond (could be better than Drogba IMO) to Lens for 1.5 M!! Lens?? 1.5M??? wtf??? This guy made the whole Bayern defence look like a bunch of amateurs... :groan: this sickens me....

oh, in that same campaign, Anderlecht beated PSV quite easily, they were ar superiour to the lads from Eindhoven. And look where both clubs are now :dontcare:
 

Yezkimov

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Jul 5, 2005
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#28
++ [ originally posted by BAH_Bianconero ] ++


Not quite true.. It's a myth actually.. There was a survey done that showed there was quite a large Juventus fanbase in Turin.. more than Torino..

Though one might question the credibility of that survey.. damn I wish I could remember where I read it..
i am sure the bahrainian knows his stuff
 

Dragon

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Apr 24, 2003
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#29
++ [ originally posted by BAH_Bianconero ] ++


Not quite true.. It's a myth actually.. There was a survey done that showed there was quite a large Juventus fanbase in Turin.. more than Torino..

Though one might question the credibility of that survey.. damn I wish I could remember where I read it..
I remember viewing a survey in this same forum that said it. My memory could be wrong though


but it would be cool if you found it anyway
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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#32
++ [ originally posted by BAH_Bianconero ] ++

Not quite true.. It's a myth actually.. There was a survey done that showed there was quite a large Juventus fanbase in Turin.. more than Torino..

Though one might question the credibility of that survey.. damn I wish I could remember where I read it..
Sam onez tat dont turn up?
 

Desmond

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Jul 12, 2002
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#33
I think it's also good for football that many of the country's big teams are in lesser known cities and not concentrated in their biggest or most famous cities.Then we'd have great upsets over the capital clubs and smaller cities would have something to be proud of.A really successful club is enough to put its city onto the world sporting map.

It's more romantic that way.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#34
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Yeah Paris is in shambles. What the hell is going on there. Also: Dublin (Ireland)...
++ [ originally posted by Geof ] ++
Dublin is smthing else I guess, they're just not interested in footie. All they care about is Rugby, which is a great sport btw.
Dublin suffers from a number of things:
  • Football has to compete with Rugby and the Gaelic Games (Gaelic football and hurling).
  • The best players in Ireland have always gone to England, so the quality of the domestic game has suffered.
  • The average foorball fan in Ireland supports one of three teams: Liverpool, Man Utd or Celtic. People watch football on the TV - there is no big fan culture like that around the big clubs in Europe.
  • The city, which only has a population of 1.5 million or so, supports six clubs directly (Bohemians, Shamrock Rovers, Shelbourne, UCD, St. Pat's and Dublin City), and there are four more in the hinterland (Bray Wanderers, Kildare, Drogheda, Dundalk). That's a lot of teams for a small live football fanbase.
The biggest problem is league attendances - even the biggest clubs only get a few thousand to a game, so the money isn't there to improve the standards. Once, you'd get 20,000 to a Rovers-Bohs game, but Match of the Day and the cult of the EPL has killed that off.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#37
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Ouch. Difficult situation that
Yep. Probably unrecoverable, unless someone like Shelbourne starts winning the league every year and raking it in from the Champions League money - think Rosenborg. Problem is, that kills the league too because you get a one horse race.
 
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Bjerknes

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    Hmm, could we also name Vienna to list of starved cities? Although Austria and Rapid Wien have been top clubs in their country for several years..
     
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    Bjerknes

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    I suppose that would be true Erik.

    Perhaps in more recent times, the city of Naples has suffered quite badly after the glory days in the 80's.
     

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