Felipe Melo (3 Viewers)

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
52,552
Marchisio did the same as a CM as he did as a LM

Marchisio scored 4 goals and made 4 assists for Juve this year.

When he played CM he scored 2 goals
1. Against Sampdoria (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-sam.html
2. Against Udinese (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/udi-juv.html

When he played CM he assisted 2 goals
1. Against Udinese (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/udi-juv.html
2. Against Brescia (Krasic-Aquilani-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-bre.html

When he played LM he scored 2 goals
1. Against Udinese (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio) http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-udi.html
2. Against Palermo (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio) http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/pal-juv.html

When he played LM he assisted 2 goals
1. Against Lecce (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-lec.html
2. Against Cesena (Pepe-Sissoko-Aquilani-Marchisio): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-ces.html

So, he did the same in terms of numbers both as a CM and LM. In terms of appearances, he played 14 times as a CM (in rounds: 1,2,3,4, 19, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 36 and 38) and 18 times as a LM ( in rounds: 6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 34). On 6 matches he didn't play (rounds 5, 15, 17, 20, 35, 37).
That's a very little difference.

And the more important thing, on the 14 matches Marchisio played as a CM our results were 4-5-5 while as a LM our results were 7-7-4. When he didn't play we had 4-1-1.

So, we did great when he didn't play, we did ok when he was LM and we had negative result with him as a CM.

Hustini: SHUT UP! :D
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
52,552
He played 21 games as a LM, I've already gone through each round individually.
As did I and I know where you made the mistake. On 3 matches we played 4-3-3 and you considered him a LM there while he was actually a CM in a 3 men midfield.

P.S: And I gave you all the rounds in which he played LM and CM. You can now easily check. He played CM on 14 and LM on 18. We made our worst results (more defeats than wins) when Marchisio was CM. We had our best results when he didn't play at all.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,403
I'd say both players are mediocre with melo costing us more in terms of money, red cards, and match defining mistakes. What Marchisio costs us by being invisible is more than balanced out by Melo's antics and red cards.
Marchisio can still develop and be more consistent maybe if he plays in his preferred position under a good coach while melo is pretty much going to be the same.

If I am gonna sell one and keep one than I would definitely get whatever I can for melo and try to improve Marchisio.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,357
As did I and I know where you made the mistake. On 3 matches we played 4-3-3 and you considered him a LM there while he was actually a CM in a 3 men midfield.

P.S: And I gave you all the rounds in which he played LM and CM. You can now easily check. He played CM on 14 and LM on 18. We made our worst results (more defeats than wins) when Marchisio was CM. We had our best results when he didn't play at all.
I'll check it out as soon as I get back home. Gets confusing on an iPhone.
 

bleach

Junior Member
Jul 18, 2011
109
I'd say both players are mediocre with melo costing us more in terms of money, red cards, and match defining mistakes. What Marchisio costs us by being invisible is more than balanced out by Melo's antics and red cards.
Marchisio can still develop and be more consistent maybe if he plays in his preferred position under a good coach while melo is pretty much going to be the same.

If I am gonna sell one and keep one than I would definitely get whatever I can for melo and try to improve Marchisio.
What your saying does not even make sense. If he is mediocre and 25? how can you improve him. Melo is not world class, but he is not a mediocre player by any means, if anyone is mediocre, invisibility man Marchisio is mediocre.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
61,319
What your saying does not even make sense. If he is mediocre and 25? how can you improve him. Melo is not world class, but he is not a mediocre player by any means, if anyone is mediocre, invisibility man Marchisio is mediocre.
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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,357
Marchisio did the same as a CM as he did as a LM

Marchisio scored 4 goals and made 4 assists for Juve this year.

When he played CM he scored 2 goals
1. Against Sampdoria (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-sam.html
2. Against Udinese (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/udi-juv.html

When he played CM he assisted 2 goals
1. Against Udinese (Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/udi-juv.html
2. Against Brescia (Krasic-Aquilani-Marchisio-Pepe): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-bre.html

When he played LM he scored 2 goals
1. Against Udinese (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio) http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-udi.html
2. Against Palermo (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio) http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/pal-juv.html

When he played LM he assisted 2 goals
1. Against Lecce (Krasic-Aquilani-Melo-Marchisio): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-lec.html
2. Against Cesena (Pepe-Sissoko-Aquilani-Marchisio): http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/juv-ces.html

So, he did the same in terms of numbers both as a CM and LM. In terms of appearances, he played 14 times as a CM (in rounds: 1,2,3,4, 19, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 36 and 38) and 18 times as a LM ( in rounds: 6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 34). On 6 matches he didn't play (rounds 5, 15, 17, 20, 35, 37).
That's a very little difference.

And the more important thing, on the 14 matches Marchisio played as a CM our results were 4-5-5 while as a LM our results were 7-7-4. When he didn't play we had 4-1-1.

So, we did great when he didn't play, we did ok when he was LM and we had negative result with him as a CM.

Hustini: SHUT UP! :D


Ooooo, you're gonna hate me for this Alen:D :

The Rounds Where Marchisio was in his natural role as Center Mid:
(The bolded is when Melo was playing)

1. Bari@away(L) –Pepe(Lanzafame), Melo(Sissoko), Krasic(Martinez). 1 Goal conceded.
2. Samp@home(D)-Krasic(Iaquinta), Melo, Pepe(Aquilani)3 Goals conceded.
3. Udine@away(W) –Melo(Sissoko), Krasic, Pepe. 0 Goals conceded
4. Palermo@away(L)-Krasic, Melo, Pepe(Iaquinta). 3 Goals conceded
19. Napoli@away(L)-Krasic, Aquilani, Pepe(Motta), Amauri, Toni. 3 goals conceded.
27. Bologna@home(L)-Krasic, Melo, Martinez( Del Piero), Iaquinta(Toni). 2 Goals conceded
28. Milan@home(L) -Martinez, Felipe Melo, Krasic; Toni (Iaquinta). 1 goal conceded
29. Cesena@away(D)- Krasic (Grygera 46), Aquilani, Pepe; Matri (Iaquinta), Del Piero (Martinez). 2 goals conceded
30. Bresica@home(W) -Krasic, Aquilani, Pepe. 1 goal conceded
31. Roma@away(W) -Felipe Melo, Aquilani, Pepe, Krasic (Salihamidzic). 0 goals conceded
32. Genoa@home(W) -Aquilani, Felipe Melo (Toni), Krasic, Matri, Pepe (Martinez). 2 Goals conceded
33. Viola@away(D) -Aquilani, Felipe Melo, Krasic (Del Piero), Matri (Toni), Pepe. 0 Goals conceded
36. Chievo@away(D) -Krasic (Toni), Aquilani, Pepe. 2 Goals conceded
38. Napoli@home(D) -Krasic (De Ceglie), Aquilani, Pepe (Boniperti). 2 goals conceded


Results w/ Melo: L, D, W, L, L, L, W, W, D (9 games, 11 points earned)
Results w/o Melo: L, D, W, D, D (5 games, 6 points earned)

Goals conceded w Melo: 12 goals conceded
Goals conceded w/o Melo: 10 goals conceded


And now I will be doing the same for when he was a LM...so please bare with me, it takes a while. :D
 

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