Federico Chiesa (102 Viewers)
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i am not going to repeat my entire posts. i already explained how much allegri ball has set juve back.
chiesa came from 3 seasons before allegri balls with these stats
18/19: 18 goals and assists in 41 matches at 20 years old
19/20: 20 goals and assists in 37 matches at 21 years od
20/21: first season juve 26 goals and assists at 22 years old
21/22 and 22/23: who cares he was recovering from injury
23/24: 12 goals and assists at 26 years old despite allegri ball. so still in double digits contribution wise.
allegri ball set him back. he was doing fine before allegri's toxic anti football
chiesa came from 3 seasons before allegri balls with these stats
18/19: 18 goals and assists in 41 matches at 20 years old
19/20: 20 goals and assists in 37 matches at 21 years od
20/21: first season juve 26 goals and assists at 22 years old
21/22 and 22/23: who cares he was recovering from injury
23/24: 12 goals and assists at 26 years old despite allegri ball. so still in double digits contribution wise.
allegri ball set him back. he was doing fine before allegri's toxic anti football
You also have to account that 2 of those goals came in the final 2 games after Allegri got sacked and wasn't coaching anymore.
I'm not great at math, but scoring 2 goals in 2 games is a pretty good pace over a full season (assuming he'd keep scoring at that rate). Imagine if he played 40 games this year and scored a goal a game. That would be like 27 goals.
I'm not great at math, but scoring 2 goals in 2 games is a pretty good pace over a full season (assuming he'd keep scoring at that rate). Imagine if he played 40 games this year and scored a goal a game. That would be like 27 goals.
Way too easy to blame Allegri... You're basically saying he had one good season at Juve. Accurate. So be a man and don't go asking a fucking raise.
If he can't adapt to the reality now, that's his problem. He was simply bad after his injury. And he was also a dick on the field blaming the others while being quite lazy himself without the ball. Nothing to demand such things. Show your worth first and take the bridge deal.
If he can't adapt to the reality now, that's his problem. He was simply bad after his injury. And he was also a dick on the field blaming the others while being quite lazy himself without the ball. Nothing to demand such things. Show your worth first and take the bridge deal.
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it's amazing how short memory this forum is.
this is exact same convo in dybala thread.
he doesn't deserve salary increase. he is lazy. he is injured.
he leaves and he has two seasons in a row of 26 goals and assists seasons in a row. while juve failed to replace him
same thing will happen again. chiesa will leave and juve will fail to replace him. kiss scudetto goodbye for next 5 seasons if he decides to go to inter.
this is exact same convo in dybala thread.
he doesn't deserve salary increase. he is lazy. he is injured.
he leaves and he has two seasons in a row of 26 goals and assists seasons in a row. while juve failed to replace him
same thing will happen again. chiesa will leave and juve will fail to replace him. kiss scudetto goodbye for next 5 seasons if he decides to go to inter.
Didn't find Dybala anything extraordinary at Roma. Still failed when it mattered most and they didn't even make it to a 5th CL place...
But... What is compareable is that we're actually hardballing to not lose our guy on a free this time. We've learned apparently.
Still need to hear why he shouldn't take the bridge deal. If he's THAT good and consistent it would be no problem to show why he deserves it.
But... What is compareable is that we're actually hardballing to not lose our guy on a free this time. We've learned apparently.
Still need to hear why he shouldn't take the bridge deal. If he's THAT good and consistent it would be no problem to show why he deserves it.
I'd pay Chiesa whatever he wants plus a few extra million, just for the fact that I've seen Giuntoli at work just trying to sign 1 winger. I can't imagine watching him have to try to sign 2.
And seeing how he's doing in the market at the CB position, I'd probably offer Rugani another extension on top of the one he signed recently - or see if Bonucci wants to come back. Actually, I'm waiting for him to put Bremer on the market so it'll give him the proper funding to sign 2 new CBs. imagine the magic he could work with that money.
Honestly, you can't help but laugh at this point. It wouldn't be so bad if we were 3 or 4 weeks away from the season starting. But this is a clown show at this point. I'm waiting for Motta to pull a Conte and just quit and we can bring Allegri back.
And seeing how he's doing in the market at the CB position, I'd probably offer Rugani another extension on top of the one he signed recently - or see if Bonucci wants to come back. Actually, I'm waiting for him to put Bremer on the market so it'll give him the proper funding to sign 2 new CBs. imagine the magic he could work with that money.
Honestly, you can't help but laugh at this point. It wouldn't be so bad if we were 3 or 4 weeks away from the season starting. But this is a clown show at this point. I'm waiting for Motta to pull a Conte and just quit and we can bring Allegri back.
Lion, listen, again, it’s not what we as forum members think of not.
NO team has agreed to give Chiesa a 9M salary, you can argue that it’s because Allegri, because his injury, because the lack of memory, whatever you want, but the fact remains that Chiesa and his manager didn’t find any team willing to pay him what he is asking… that should tell you the reality, why should Juventus pay him that if no team has been willing?
NO team has agreed to give Chiesa a 9M salary, you can argue that it’s because Allegri, because his injury, because the lack of memory, whatever you want, but the fact remains that Chiesa and his manager didn’t find any team willing to pay him what he is asking… that should tell you the reality, why should Juventus pay him that if no team has been willing?