Federico Chiesa (72 Viewers)

[campionesidd]

Privileges of being a member of Juventuz, be gratefull

Sadly we don’t have the privilege of being like Momblano. The man uses quantum physics to calculate transfer probabilities.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Privileges of being a member of Juventuz, be gratefull

Years and years of rumors keeping us up at night, only to eventually sign the likes of Bernardeschi, Chiesa, and Galeno.

We are so privileged.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

According to Albanese, Motta will speak to Chiesa once the team returns from Germany, the coach will be very clear and inform Chiesa that he is out of the proyect

So Motta is just kicking him out? Why?

I understand from the club's POV with last year of contract, but why would Motta not want him on the team?

 

[Espectro]

So Motta is just kicking him out? Why?

I understand from the club's POV with last year of contract, but why would Motta not want him on the team?

well, if it is true, probably because he thinks he is not suited for his system

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

well, if it is true, probably because he thinks he is not suited for his system

That's a big call to make, sacrificing one of our few stars for your system.

I'm not really fond of managers who need players with specific skillsets to play their system. When it does work it can make for a formidable team, like what Pep and Klopp did. But they tend to lack flexibility when the system doesn't work out. I like coaches who can make a team with the players they have, provided they are quality of course.

Also there's the risk that if it doesn't work out and the manager leaves the club, you're stuck with a bunch of system players who the next manager might have difficulty with.

Maybe if I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are really putting a lot of trust in Motta (as we should). I just hope he knows what he's doing.

 

[Lion]

That's a big call to make, sacrificing one of our few stars for your system.

I'm not really fond of managers who need players with specific skillsets to play their system. When it does work it can make for a formidable team, like what Pep and Klopp did. But they tend to lack flexibility when the system doesn't work out. I like coaches who can make a team with the players they have, provided they are quality of course.

Also there's the risk that if it doesn't work out and the manager leaves the club, you're stuck with a bunch of system players who the next manager might have difficulty with.

Maybe if I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are really putting a lot of trust in Motta (as we should). I just hope he knows what he's doing.

you make a good point, but the hope here is similar to how conte kicked out krasic and was proven right, chiesa's kicking out works out too.

 

[Espectro]

That's a big call to make, sacrificing one of our few stars for your system.

I'm not really fond of managers who need players with specific skillsets to play their system. When it does work it can make for a formidable team, like what Pep and Klopp did. But they tend to lack flexibility when the system doesn't work out. I like coaches who can make a team with the players they have, provided they are quality of course.

Also there's the risk that if it doesn't work out and the manager leaves the club, you're stuck with a bunch of system players who the next manager might have difficulty with.

Maybe if I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are really putting a lot of trust in Motta (as we should). I just hope he knows what he's doing.

I understand what you are saying, but there are very few coaches than have the hability to do that and we bougth Motta specifically for the way he plays and his system, so its only logical that he gets to say which players he thinks he can use in that system and which dont...

And sorry but I really dont know if I would call Chiesa "a star" at the moment...

Also if like you say Motta leaves we will still be without Chiesa, since he seems to not want to renew for the money we offer so..

 

[Catenaccio]

That's a big call to make, sacrificing one of our few stars for your system.

I'm not really fond of managers who need players with specific skillsets to play their system. When it does work it can make for a formidable team, like what Pep and Klopp did. But they tend to lack flexibility when the system doesn't work out. I like coaches who can make a team with the players they have, provided they are quality of course.

Also there's the risk that if it doesn't work out and the manager leaves the club, you're stuck with a bunch of system players who the next manager might have difficulty with.

Maybe if I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are really putting a lot of trust in Motta (as we should). I just hope he knows what he's doing.

I tend to have the same opinion about coaches adapting the system to the characteristics of the players you have.

However, the only difference now is that the squad in general needed a big overhaul anyway and the style of play that Motta wants is night and day different to Allegri. This transfer market gives us the opportunity to bring in the players he wants. I also don’t think he got all the players he wanted at Bologna anyway.

My biggest concern is that it is not so easy to execute such a large squad revolution. If successful, half of the squad will consist of new faces.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I understand what you are saying, but there are very few coaches than have the hability to do that and we bougth Motta specifically for the way he plays and his system, so its only logical that he gets to say which players he thinks he can use in that system and which dont...

And sorry but I really dont know if I would call Chiesa "a star" at the moment...

Also if like you say Motta leaves we will still be without Chiesa, since he seems to not want to renew for the money we offer so..

Well he hasn't been playing like a star, but relative to the rest of the squad he, Vlahovic and Bremer are the "stars" of the team imo.

I tend to have the same opinion about coaches adapting the system to the characteristics of the players you have.

However, the only difference now is that the squad in general needed a big overhaul anyway and the style of play that Motta wants is night and day different to Allegri. This transfer market gives us the opportunity to bring in the players he wants. I also don’t think he got all the players he wanted at Bologna anyway.

My biggest concern is that it is not so easy to execute such a large squad revolution. If successful, half of the squad will consist of new faces.

 

[The Quazis]

Not sure what Salemakers or Orsolini have that Chiesa doesn't.

 

[Alin]

Not sure what Salemakers or Orsolini have that Chiesa doesn't.

They have a much lower salary i guess lol

Also i call bs on the rumor about Motta not wanting Chiesa because of not fitting his system, it is rather clear by now that it’s about his contractual situation, the demands are simply higher than the production he is offering, otherwise just watch Chiesa potentially renew on the same wage or a bit lower and he will suddenly become a good fit to Motta’s system.

 

[Wings]

That's a big call to make, sacrificing one of our few stars for your system.

I'm not really fond of managers who need players with specific skillsets to play their system. When it does work it can make for a formidable team, like what Pep and Klopp did. But they tend to lack flexibility when the system doesn't work out. I like coaches who can make a team with the players they have, provided they are quality of course.

Also there's the risk that if it doesn't work out and the manager leaves the club, you're stuck with a bunch of system players who the next manager might have difficulty with.

Maybe if I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are really putting a lot of trust in Motta (as we should). I just hope he knows what he's doing.

We've had a coach that was able to play with whichever player we bought & he did great in his first stint but was horrific in the second. We have failed to win the CL in the last 28 years. We gave the world jihadball. Our management under Agnelli is bittersweet. He did great things in the first half but got desperate after failing to win the CL. It's a miracle that we are still a competitive team after they doubled down on their own stupidity. Not to mention if you go for the king you better win. Our own ultras are shit. Even if Jesus was our coach we'd still be crucified in Italy.
Now we have a competent sporting director, I would like to believe he is but he is without experience at the highest level. We also have a rookie coach. Mistakes will be made but I hope there will be patience.
Personally I hope we hit the ground running with Motta but that will be a miracle especially since badass blessed both the coach & swore by his fitness team.
It's a wonder the whole world is still mesmerised by the aura of Juventus but here at Tuz we know jj is shit.
Salut to all you degenerates. May we blessed with a semblance of football that pleases the eyes & gets results.

 

[B3N]

Poor Chiesa. I guess he should be getting food stamps if he renews for less than 5m per season. I feel for him.

If you think footballers are overpaid in general that's a different story

I hope they come to an agreement and he make all the ones writing him off already because of this situation eat their word @Lion tho should just suck on some salami

 

[Lion]

If you think footballers are overpaid in general that's a different story

I hope they come to an agreement and he make all the ones writing him off already because of this situation eat their word @Lion tho should just suck on some salami

bro i was telling people he sucked way before it was cool to hate on him. now everyone has seen the light that he sucks and is one dimensional

 

[B3N]

bro i was telling people he sucked way before it was cool to hate on him. now everyone has seen the light that he sucks and is one dimensional

One dimensional as in it'll go in but it won't come out?

 

[4ndr3i]

I think he’ll end up staying, not because we want him to but because there seems to be 0 interest in him from other clubs, even with one year left on his contract.

This should be a big wake up call for Chiesa.

 

[Brny44]

He have a lot of reasons to prove this season. Lets see how much he really is worth.

 

[Salvo]

I think he’ll end up staying, not because we want him to but because there seems to be 0 interest in him from other clubs, even with one year left on his contract.

This should be a big wake up call for Chiesa.

I think he will stay and sign in line with the conditions we initially set

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I think he will stay and sign in line with the conditions we initially set

Yeah we might give him the Rabiot-style bridge contract for the following season.

 

[Strickland]

dude is a hardworking two way player that has no clear weak spots. I absolutely don't buy him not fitting at all into Motta's system.