Fate Night (4 Viewers)
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++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++
Why go far? I'll explain Greg.
The "The night of fate/power/grand" is a night in Ramadhan. Muslims do not know exactly which night, but all deeds (good and bad) are considered by the Lord as a 1000 months. For example, if I pray, give to the poor, read Quran...etc, it is the equivelant of doing so a 1000 months. The story behind it that the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) told his friends a story about person from the Sons of Israel, who preformed "Jehad" for a thousand month (an equivelant of 82 years I reckon), so the Sahaba (his friends) where amazed and envied him, for such acheivment. So God sent his word to His prophet in the form of a chapter in Quran of (Chapter of Power/fate/predestination or Surrat Al-Qadr) as to not envy, as God has replaced them with a better offer:
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful .
We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power:
And what will explain to thee what the night of power is? The Night of Power is better than a thousand months. Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by Allah's permission, on every errand: Peace!...This until the rise of morn!
In my discussion with Nawaf earlier, I said that the prophet did not reveal the exact time of such night (as he did not know). But he limited it to the last ten nights of Ramadhan, then he further limited it to the odd nights of the month.
I hope you find this insightful, as I dont know how religious you are or how interested in these subjects. Anyways don't hesitate to ask me whatever questions no matter how silly or offending they might sound
....as long as it was asked in a proper manner of course
Why go far? I'll explain Greg.
The "The night of fate/power/grand" is a night in Ramadhan. Muslims do not know exactly which night, but all deeds (good and bad) are considered by the Lord as a 1000 months. For example, if I pray, give to the poor, read Quran...etc, it is the equivelant of doing so a 1000 months. The story behind it that the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) told his friends a story about person from the Sons of Israel, who preformed "Jehad" for a thousand month (an equivelant of 82 years I reckon), so the Sahaba (his friends) where amazed and envied him, for such acheivment. So God sent his word to His prophet in the form of a chapter in Quran of (Chapter of Power/fate/predestination or Surrat Al-Qadr) as to not envy, as God has replaced them with a better offer:
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful .
We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power:
And what will explain to thee what the night of power is? The Night of Power is better than a thousand months. Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by Allah's permission, on every errand: Peace!...This until the rise of morn!
In my discussion with Nawaf earlier, I said that the prophet did not reveal the exact time of such night (as he did not know). But he limited it to the last ten nights of Ramadhan, then he further limited it to the odd nights of the month.
I hope you find this insightful, as I dont know how religious you are or how interested in these subjects. Anyways don't hesitate to ask me whatever questions no matter how silly or offending they might sound
....as long as it was asked in a proper manner of course
Your explanation makes it pretty clear (and insightful) to me. As far as my own religiousness, I was raised Catholic a long time ago. However, as I went through college, etc., I became much more "ecumenical" of sorts ... i.e., interested in learning and seeking the truths behind all kinds of religious experience, belief, and expression (even to the extent that sometimes includes atheism!). In a way, you could say it's through my understanding of these various religious perspectives that I personally achieve my own path of enlightenment, which is to try to take in the breadth of of what's common in the human experience in relationship to the divine.
What I find particularly interesting about your description of Fate Night is the similarities and parallels it has to some of the customs practiced by Chinese around the Chinese New Year, as an example. While not making any judgements about Chinese or Muslim practices, of course. But, for example, many Chinese clean their houses well before the New Year as an act that will carry over for their own lives throughout the coming year (though not sweeping floors and throwing out trash the day before for fear of tossing away good fortune for the coming year). Many Chinese will also stay up together with the whole family past midnight as a way of conveying long life and togetherness in the future.
++ [ originally posted by Menace ] ++
shiite = ba7arna Nawaf, no way i am not, thank heavens and have some respect wigga, although most don't deserve any, fvcking assholes some of them, i don't know, a friend of mine told me, i didn't know it wasn't the same for both sides until i read your posts, who cares, easier just one night
shiite = ba7arna Nawaf, no way i am not, thank heavens and have some respect wigga, although most don't deserve any, fvcking assholes some of them, i don't know, a friend of mine told me, i didn't know it wasn't the same for both sides until i read your posts, who cares, easier just one night
Thanks Greg. However this night is not a celebration night, Families do not gather and celebrate it at all, and there is no special ceremony or whatever. It's a night between the person and God, if he took advantage of it then may God accept him with His mercy, if not then he got himself to blame. The fact that it lies within the last ten nights of the month (tonight will be the 25th) just makes it even more wonderful. As you can see all people around trying their best not to do anything wrong, treat each other good, respect each other...etc.
It is also interesting to note that on this night the first verse of the Quran was sent to the Prophet by the archangle Gabrial.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
Read: In the name of thy Lord Who createth. Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood. Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen. Taught man that which he knew not.
and by that the beggining of the prophets message to the world.
It is also interesting to note that on this night the first verse of the Quran was sent to the Prophet by the archangle Gabrial.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
Read: In the name of thy Lord Who createth. Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood. Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen. Taught man that which he knew not.
and by that the beggining of the prophets message to the world.
Just a question, as a Shi'ite myself and coming from a country where the two Muslims sects have no problem intermarrying (surprise surprise..Lebanon!) ; why is it such an issue with you khaleejis?
When I went to work in Kuwait the first time last year, that was the first thing I was asked by a female Kuwaiti colleague. I was like what difference does it make at the end of the day? She was a Sunni, I'm Shi'a she made such a big deal about it.
She then invited me for iftar, and her parents treated me like some sort of alien asking me questions beginning "Intou el Shi3a...?" (you Shi'as do this? do that bla bla bla?)
Just curious.
Anyways, Ramadan Kareem to all Muslim brothers and sisters out there.
When I went to work in Kuwait the first time last year, that was the first thing I was asked by a female Kuwaiti colleague. I was like what difference does it make at the end of the day? She was a Sunni, I'm Shi'a she made such a big deal about it.
She then invited me for iftar, and her parents treated me like some sort of alien asking me questions beginning "Intou el Shi3a...?" (you Shi'as do this? do that bla bla bla?)
Just curious.
Anyways, Ramadan Kareem to all Muslim brothers and sisters out there.
Thanks for the details. I gathered from what you first wrote that it is a more inward-looking thing than something external.
My only mention of the Chinese New Years reference was more about how some religions or cultures observe certain days as especially significant prognosticators or "multipliers" of your coming future.
My only mention of the Chinese New Years reference was more about how some religions or cultures observe certain days as especially significant prognosticators or "multipliers" of your coming future.
++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++
I would be stepping on some tails if I answered that Haitham, so lets just leave it at that
I would be stepping on some tails if I answered that Haitham, so lets just leave it at that
Hmmm, fine. Everyone has their own beliefs I guess. Like they say here in khaleej - khalli walli
....or in Lebanon insa el amr. And it's Haytham, not Haitham!
Jeeks:
Is there anything about Lebs in Bahrain? Hell, just bring the two of us anywhere outside Leb and we'll start a mini-republic.
roud:
++ [ originally posted by Nawaf ] ++
Mate.. Getting off on evil and fending off evil are two very different things.. and by your choice of equipment (including the porn), I'm guessing you're going for the former choice.. Not reccommended..
Mate.. Getting off on evil and fending off evil are two very different things.. and by your choice of equipment (including the porn), I'm guessing you're going for the former choice.. Not reccommended..
