Fabio Quagliarella (68 Viewers)

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Word. Like he said, he was going to use his left leg to shoot, till he realised he had lost his defender and had time to switch to his right, that allowed him to nutmeg the keeper. Luck. :howler:
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Word. Like he said, he was going to use his left leg to shoot, till he realised he had lost his defender and had time to switch to his right, that allowed him to nutmeg the keeper. Luck. :howler:
It was almost surprising really, seeing as how he'd barely played and was always looked hungry for a goal you think he'd just try and put it in instantly but he just showed his class, composure and ability by doing that ;) The entire forum would be sucking his dick if he scored the winner too instead of hitting the crossbar.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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It was almost surprising really, seeing as how he'd barely played and was always looked hungry for a goal you think he'd just try and put it in instantly but he just showed his class, composure and ability by doing that ;) The entire forum would be sucking his dick if he scored the winner too instead of hitting the crossbar.
Fuck yeah. Imagine if the crossbar was an inch or two higher. I just hope we give him a run of 3-4 games to find his feet and some consistency. If he does, we would recover a player who would go a long way in solving th issues we had last year. He definitely deserves it ahead of Bendtner and Matri at the moment.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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None taken. But that right there is a fallacy. You say he needs to be playing well enough to be starting, but unfortunately, it's a bit of a paradox. The training well enough argument is really a double edge sword isn't it? By the same measure, what you're really saying is, Borriello trained and played better than both Quag and Matri to get all the game time he was given since his January arrival last winter mercato.

Quagliarella's introduction in last nights game was neither because he had played well enough in his previous 12 minute cameo and nor was it because he had trained better than the other subs. It was a function of Bendtner not being fit enough, and Matri coming off a horrendous game the weekend prior. And believe it or not, despite the perception of his 'finished' label, he was the only one of those three who could've pulled off those minutes the way he did.
Yes, Borriello must have. He was obviously seen as more suitable, also. The problem with Quagliarella is not just his performances, but how effective he is in the minutes he is given. I like Quagliarella and don't doubt his talent, but I want to see the most effective players play, and I'm not convinced that he is.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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It was almost surprising really, seeing as how he'd barely played and was always looked hungry for a goal you think he'd just try and put it in instantly but he just showed his class, composure and ability by doing that ;) The entire forum would be sucking his dick if he scored the winner too instead of hitting the crossbar.
100 fucking %.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Yes, Borriello must have. He was obviously seen as more suitable, also. The problem with Quagliarella is not just his performances, but how effective he is in the minutes he is given. I like Quagliarella and don't doubt his talent, but I want to see the most effective players play, and I'm not convinced that he is.
About Borriello, we're just clutching at straws here, saying he must have trained better. The fact of the matter is, that he was viewed as the best tactical fit alongside Vucinic, and nothing else. He did nothing in that time to suggest that he deserved the amount of game time he got ahead of zmatri and Quag, who both outscored him. I agree about effectiveness. But it's too harsh and too easy to consider a player ineffective in the circumstances Quag faced last year that's all I'm saying. This year might show us a bit more given that he's available from the start of the season, has some time between the injury and most importantly, our jam packed schedule which will allow him to showcase where he really stands at the club.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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About Borriello, we're just clutching at straws here, saying he must have trained better.
There is no way of knowing this, of course. I'm basing it on the fact Quagliarella started only 7 games last season, despite being fit to play 33, with competition of only Matri (10 goals/30) and then Borriello (2 goals/10).

We could talk all day about suitable players for tactics, but Quagliarella is a striker in the squad. If he wasn't seen as suitable for the system he would have been sold by now. So we have to assume other players are impressing more than him, which seems right based on what I saw with my own eyes last year.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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There is no way of knowing this, of course. I'm basing it on the fact Quagliarella started only 7 games last season, despite being fit to play 33, with competition of only Matri (10 goals/30) and then Borriello (2 goals/10).

We could talk all day about suitable players for tactics, but Quagliarella is a striker in the squad. If he wasn't seen as suitable for the system he would have been sold by now. So we have to assume other players are impressing more than him, which seems right based on what I saw with my own eyes last year.
How many 90 minute games did Quag get to play last season? Also, technically, he was fit to play 33 games, but the cheekbone injury aside, you'll remember Conte didn't introduce him till the end of the first part of the season, himself claiming that the player was coming off a horrible injury ad needed time to find the right mental approach again. Despite the handicap, and arguably less consistency in how frequently he played, he returned with 4 goals, double of the preferred tactical fit, Borriello who himself wasnt showing any form whatsoever. But had done enough to not only bench Quag, but Matri, our top scorer at the time.
 
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I'm glad that he scored a crucial goal and almost scored a winner(off the crossbar) against Chelsea but let's not get ahead of ourselves. With that goal, he might be a better third choice than Matri but I wouldn't start him yet, especially not in Giovinco's place.

I'd give Giovinco more games to gel.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Football italia

Friday September 21 2012

Give Quagliarella a go

Fabio Quagliarella has never been guaranteed a place in the Juventus side under Antonio Conte, but Dylan Fahy argues the striker deserves his chance from the start this weekend.

They say it takes a striker several games to return to optimal scoring form after the fatigues of the seasonal break and lingering pains from the previous campaign. This was not the case for Fabio Quagliarella. Before his exceptional substitute display for Juventus in his first ever Champions League outing against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday night, the 29-year-old had only played 15 minutes of first team football.

The Italian international netted the vital equaliser in a 2-2 draw and constantly probed the European Champions’ defence for the Bianconeri, in their biggest match of the last three years. But before replacing Sebastian Giovinco with a quarter of an hour left to play, the Neapolitan had only figured in the closing stages of the Old Lady’s 4-1 victory over Udinese over a fortnight ago. And, in all honesty, a collective sigh of “why him?” from some sections of Juve fans was notable when the change was made.

The Turin-based giants chased Robin Van Persie, Stevan Jovetic and later Fernando Llorente throughout the summer in search of a European pedigree striker. Danish international Nicklas Bendtner was ultimately the man the Bianconeri faithful had to settle with, as he was brought in on loan from Arsenal. The controversial 24-year-old is arguably no better than the club already had on their books, so the question begged – who will be the main man this season?

Montenegrin Mirko Vucinic has to date stepped up to the plate up top for Antonio Conte’s side, having netted on four occasions this term, three for club and one for country. The second striker role in the preferred 3-5-2 formation is therefore disputed amongst other players, and Quagliarella has to date proved to be the most consistent with fewer opportunities.

Since purchasing Giovinco outright from Parma in the summer the Atomic Ant has played a predominant role in every match for the Turin-based giants but only scored twice, both of which came against Udinese. His severe lack of muscle against Chelsea was evidently clear, as not once did he get the better of John Terry and David Luiz.

Top-scorer last season with 10 successful strikes, Alessandro Matri has also featured in every game to date, but is yet to find the back of the net. His presence upfront has been made clear, but squandering chances such as that against Genoa last weekend could prove costly in future.

Bendtner arrived in Piedmont overweight and evidently fatigued from the European Championships, and has yet to make his debut. Denmark did not get out of their group, but a spirited side with the Arsenal man as a spearhead troubled the Netherlands, Portugal and Germany.

On the basis of form Quagliarella deserves his chance as Juventus host Chievo on Saturday evening. Last season was clearly not the former Torino man’s best, but it was his first full campaign back after knee ligament damage. But having signed a contract extension that will take him up to 2015 in northern Italy, it is time he finally cements a place in Conte’s starting XI.

“I always sit there hoping to a) start or b) to come off the bench. Maybe earlier than the last 10 minutes!” admitted the scorer of spectacular goals in midweek. His motivation to contribute could also bring back a small bit of that hunger from last season that has been missing at times.

The fact of the matter is the more time the former Sampdoria man spends on the sidelines the more his match fitness levels will go down. Subsequently, his incredible talent to find the top corner from any feasible angle will go to waste and Juventus, with their striking options, simply can’t afford that.
 

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