Fabio Quagliarella (48 Viewers)
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None taken. But that right there is a fallacy. You say he needs to be playing well enough to be starting, but unfortunately, it's a bit of a paradox. The training well enough argument is really a double edge sword isn't it? By the same measure, what you're really saying is, Borriello trained and played better than both Quag and Matri to get all the game time he was given since his January arrival last winter mercato.
Quagliarella's introduction in last nights game was neither because he had played well enough in his previous 12 minute cameo and nor was it because he had trained better than the other subs. It was a function of Bendtner not being fit enough, and Matri coming off a horrendous game the weekend prior. And believe it or not, despite the perception of his 'finished' label, he was the only one of those three who could've pulled off those minutes the way he did.
A lot of this argument, or the ones we are surrounded by in this thread have always been about how poor he has been for some time. Last season is and remains as unfair a yardstick as one could judge not just him but any player by. It was structured on the back off him being injured again in preseason last year, and then being reintroduced to the fold, well into the season - playing under a new system and new coach. Even the time he actually earned a starting spot he managed to fracture his cheekbone if you remember which again pushed him down the pecking order. And then Borriello arrived.
I have neither claimed nor said that Quag should be a guaranteed starter at Juve. I've only always said that he deserves a few games to help him find his match rhythm. Del Piero had this problem coming off his ACL injury, and he was a regular starter on this team. If he had a problem, imagine what it'd be for a lesser player like Quag to find that body rhythm to suit his more limited skill set? Remember Buffon in Del Neri's season, when he returned from his injury!? That loss in form was not because he was shit, he had lost his confidence and rhythm. People had lost all their faith in him. Look at him today. The same applies to every footballer, or athlete. Quag's case is a bit more unique than the other two, because their legendary status made it a lot easier to help them recover, given that the coaches and staff and fans would be patient enough for them to find that form again. Quag had it all to do from scratch, coz he was playing at the biggest team in his career. That meant, less patience, less game time to prove himself and arguably being more expendable.
The guy last season would get on and run his heart out. But you could see the frustration in his body language and how much he lacked the composure in his game. Like I said, he was linked with clubs throughout the summer but he chose to stay and fight for his place, never once complaining despite being way too good to be a fifth striker. That shows his commitment to the cause. And right now, more than anything, a moment like e one he had last night could help unblock his anxiety a little bit, but that needs to come coupled with two or three starts only to help recover a player who has done well for us in the past. You may disagree, but if he finds his feet in this team, he is a 10-15 goal forward. This argument would've given us a more interesting take on the kind of forward he is in a bigger team, than the ones hes played for, had he completed his first season here.
Quagliarella's introduction in last nights game was neither because he had played well enough in his previous 12 minute cameo and nor was it because he had trained better than the other subs. It was a function of Bendtner not being fit enough, and Matri coming off a horrendous game the weekend prior. And believe it or not, despite the perception of his 'finished' label, he was the only one of those three who could've pulled off those minutes the way he did.
A lot of this argument, or the ones we are surrounded by in this thread have always been about how poor he has been for some time. Last season is and remains as unfair a yardstick as one could judge not just him but any player by. It was structured on the back off him being injured again in preseason last year, and then being reintroduced to the fold, well into the season - playing under a new system and new coach. Even the time he actually earned a starting spot he managed to fracture his cheekbone if you remember which again pushed him down the pecking order. And then Borriello arrived.
I have neither claimed nor said that Quag should be a guaranteed starter at Juve. I've only always said that he deserves a few games to help him find his match rhythm. Del Piero had this problem coming off his ACL injury, and he was a regular starter on this team. If he had a problem, imagine what it'd be for a lesser player like Quag to find that body rhythm to suit his more limited skill set? Remember Buffon in Del Neri's season, when he returned from his injury!? That loss in form was not because he was shit, he had lost his confidence and rhythm. People had lost all their faith in him. Look at him today. The same applies to every footballer, or athlete. Quag's case is a bit more unique than the other two, because their legendary status made it a lot easier to help them recover, given that the coaches and staff and fans would be patient enough for them to find that form again. Quag had it all to do from scratch, coz he was playing at the biggest team in his career. That meant, less patience, less game time to prove himself and arguably being more expendable.
The guy last season would get on and run his heart out. But you could see the frustration in his body language and how much he lacked the composure in his game. Like I said, he was linked with clubs throughout the summer but he chose to stay and fight for his place, never once complaining despite being way too good to be a fifth striker. That shows his commitment to the cause. And right now, more than anything, a moment like e one he had last night could help unblock his anxiety a little bit, but that needs to come coupled with two or three starts only to help recover a player who has done well for us in the past. You may disagree, but if he finds his feet in this team, he is a 10-15 goal forward. This argument would've given us a more interesting take on the kind of forward he is in a bigger team, than the ones hes played for, had he completed his first season here.
Zalayeta was better 
Zalayeta was definitely a better goalscorer; Quag is a better scorer of great goals though 
- was thinking the same, I'd trust him a lot more than the rest of the FWs in a one on one chance.
sad? no way, he's better than fucking borriello for sure, a sub that is better than borriello as a starter is not a sad thing lol... and not all sub in this world scored winning goals against madrid and barca in their life time, so no he was not a sad thing to have.
but the best super sub we ever have was kovacevic! we should've kept him at that time than inzaghi!
but the best super sub we ever have was kovacevic! we should've kept him at that time than inzaghi!