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Post Ironic

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Yes. Marotta’s body of work here definitely suggests we should place emphasis on the 7th place finish in his first year (coming off another 7th place finish), and ignore the next 7 years.

It’s perfectly fine to acknowledge his faults and mistakes here, but suggesting that he was anything but brilliant for this club in his time here is ludicrous.
 

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Badass J Elkann

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
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Feb 12, 2006
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Post Ironic said:
Yes. Marotta’s body of work here definitely suggests we should place emphasis on the 7th place finish in his first year (coming off another 7th place finish), and ignore the next 7 years.

It’s perfectly fine to acknowledge his faults and mistakes here, but suggesting that he was anything but brilliant for this club in his time here is ludicrous.
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It's not a matter of weather he was brilliant or not its a matter of how can the club progress, and in all honestly I don't think the club could reach those new heights with Marotta in charge.

At times I really felt like we undersold ourselves, the Vidal sale most certainly comes to mind, again not helped with the 'he wanted to leave' statement. Letting Llorente go for free when his subsequent clubs sold him on for money I felt was bad business. The Higuain situation was poorly handled, whilst bringing back bonucci really made no sense and looks all the more a poor deal. Adding to the fact he gave licence to players to come and go as they pleased, made us look like a real stop gap to get a move to a bigger club, effectively a european feeder club which is not where we should be at yet I felt we were at this stagnate level the last couple of years.

I don't like the fact that not only did we let Marchisio go, but extended Khedira's contract on a stupidly undeserved wage.

The difference in attitude between Paratici and marotta is beginning to show and I love it - if a player wants to leave then fine, but it'll be on our terms. Not if a player wants to leave we will do all we can to make sure he gets what he wants. It's these differences in attitude that was holding us back of late, if i were to guess why AA let marotta go I'd say this reason certainly played a part.
 
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Badass J Elkann

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Kyle said:
Incredible that you can come to this conclusion already.
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it's not rocket science.
Like i said it's a difference in attitude

we will do what we can to appease the player's wishes -. Marotta's statements made us look weak as fuck sometimes when he's coming out with such statements. Do you think a real madrid player would get a move to barcelona because thats what the player wants? that's marotta's attitude. But sure people like yourself may be satisfied with that shit, but this is Juventus ffs not dortmund or ajax

Paratici's is more - We will sell on our terms. The right attitude to have at the level a club like Juventus should be
 
Bianconero81

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Post Ironic said:
Marotta failed so miserably here. Only turned a 7th place side into 7 straight scudetti, including 4 domestic doubles, and managed to make us relevant in europe again with 2 CL finals.

What a flop. :baus:
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Well, while I do agree with you, it wasn't just Marotta who did that single-handedly. Other staff members, the coach, and players at our disposal made us win titles and reach those CL Finals (where we ended up on the losing side again) :sigh:

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If Paraici manages to get rid of The Accidental Footballer, Khedira and upgrades our midfield without weakening other areas of the team, I'll start singing his praises. He hasn't done anything yet tho, so it's a clean slate.
 
Post Ironic

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Bianconero81 said:
Well, while I do agree with you, it wasn't just Marotta who did that single-handedly. Other staff members, the coach, and players at our disposal made us win titles and reach those CL Finals (where we ended up on the losing side again) :sigh:

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If Paraici manages to get rid of The Accidental Footballer, Khedira and upgrades our midfield without weakening other areas of the team, I'll start singing his praises. He hasn't done anything yet tho, so it's a clean slate.
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Agreed, it wasn't Marotta alone. It took the entirety of the club's organization, from ownership and board, on down through sporting directors, coaches, players, etc. But he did play a major part in returning this club to the pre-calciopoli domestic dominance and European relevance/competitiveness, even if we lost in CL finals again (not like this is exclusive to the Beppe-era).

:tup: on Paratici too. Not sure why Badass thinks a couple vague statements on transfers mid-season means we've moved into some wild new realm of operating in the transfer market like Madrid or Barca or PSG... etc. He hasn't even managed a transfer window yet, so until I see results from him, it's a clean slate. He did a great job as part of the team with Beppe and Nedved, but let's see how he does now as the main man, before we anoint him.
 
zizinho

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Kyle said:
My guess is, if it is real, is a quote on Benatia leaving in January. Big surprise he isn't allowed to, we aren't letting a player leave midseason. I don't think that is near as indicative of a change in policy as Badass wants to believe.
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Badass just wants people to think hes been on team Paratici from the beginning. maybe he can fool some newbies but we all know he was drooling over Sabatini for years
 
Vlad

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Lol dont take their statements at face value. Thats just a random tweet without any source. Wtf

Im pretty sure we will contine selling player(s) for the right price. If a good offer arrives and player expreses desire to leave (Pogba), or we evaluate player is on downward spiral and could be our last opportunity to earn good sum (Vidal), I have no doubt we would sell. Revenue from player sales makes 1/5 to 1/4 of our overal income, which is significant and makes us very dependent if we want to balance the books. Every year over the last few seasons we would earn 80-100m from sales. Id go even further and claim we cannot make important purchase without selling someone big. Imho Pjanic is in a category of players we could be selling next summer.

This isnt a question of Marotta, Paratici or someone else, bc all of them get certain budget estimated by finance department and CFO and they need to operate within.
 
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Nzoric

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Badass Dybala said:
It's not a matter of weather he was brilliant or not its a matter of how can the club progress, and in all honestly I don't think the club could reach those new heights with Marotta in charge.

At times I really felt like we undersold ourselves, the Vidal sale most certainly comes to mind, again not helped with the 'he wanted to leave' statement. Letting Llorente go for free when his subsequent clubs sold him on for money I felt was bad business. The Higuain situation was poorly handled, whilst bringing back bonucci really made no sense and looks all the more a poor deal. Adding to the fact he gave licence to players to come and go as they pleased, made us look like a real stop gap to get a move to a bigger club, effectively a european feeder club which is not where we should be at yet I felt we were at this stagnate level the last couple of years.

I don't like the fact that not only did we let Marchisio go, but extended Khedira's contract on a stupidly undeserved wage.

The difference in attitude between Paratici and marotta is beginning to show and I love it - if a player wants to leave then fine, but it'll be on our terms. Not if a player wants to leave we will do all we can to make sure he gets what he wants. It's these differences in attitude that was holding us back of late, if i were to guess why AA let marotta go I'd say this reason certainly played a part.
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Imo we are seeing Badass from his most pathetic side ever right now. Didnt know it could get worse, but he is out cringing himself again.

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