I actually LOVE such posts, i rarely ever get any arguments to work with!!
- Bla bla bla, apart from the drama, i agree that Secco, was thrown to the wolves and it wasnt his fault!
But the part when you assume that no one wanted Secco's job, was totally wrong, this could be the case for the first year, but right after we were cleansed,
right after we demonstrated that we can still compete in serie and still have a loads of cash and prestige to work with.
Right after we ripped off all ties to the previous Juve, those managers would never ever have a problem to join us.
Because they knew what was really going on and because they knew that Moggi wasnt the only doing what he did.
We never even tried to tempt any of them to our side, not even foreigners, not even assistants. The ONLY reason because we didnt got any one else, is because WE didnt wanted it!! We trusted Secco of being one of us, some thing goes with the others that are still on helm. Dont expect us to believe that so many years after calciopoli, we still cant find a proper man for the job.
We have just demonstrated what i have been saying all along and this is why our problem was never dealt! They should be replaced asap, as soon as they proved their incompetence and we had the chance to upgrade!
-We are supposed to be a competitive club, we are supposed to compete with the best out there. This scandal brought far too many steps back, we cannot afford sidesteps or even worse backsteps.
There is absolutely no good reason, not to at least try do better than that!
There is a specific reason those specific pawns are tolerated on this specific positions! Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with their competence!
-For every line you may have on Moggi, others can write a book on Secco!!
Losing Kaka when he was nothing, is not nearly as bad as losing Mutu when we did. Overpaying for Vieira is not nearly as bad, as it overpaying for Tiago.
Mistakes are always bound to happen, but once in a while we expect a few good transfers too. Being in our darkest hours, spending the money we did and having an imperative team to be optimal to our decisions, demands far better results than the usual.
Since that was almost impossible, we should at least try to equal our previous efficiency. We have always have had less resources and political/media influence,
we could only cope with the best, only because of our exceptional management.
Thats why we were labeled a company. This is how the game is played.
Our political and our financial status has been enhanced and cant be enhanced!
All we can do, is to increase our managerial efficiency to the highest competitive levels.
-What exactly makes it damn good transfer campaign???
The names?? Doesnt the transfer campaign also include the names we lost?? (Criscito too)
Doesnt include the amount we have paid for those names?
Doesnt this transfer campaign includes our priorities? (fullbacks)
Or is it just about the fancy names, no matter what the cost???
-Secco's mistakes cost us 50mil (give or go)
Who is held responsible for that money?? It should all just go away like that??
Who is held responsible for Tiago locking our president on the toilet and then force us to pay his salary and bonuses??
Who is held responsible that we are forced to loan Almiron and pay a part of his salary too, until the day he is released and lose the last penny we paid for him?
Who he is held responsible that Genoa had a clause to keep Criscito and then buy his contract so cheap? When we are still struggling to find a half decent replacement until the last transfer day?
-They were not stolen but thrown away, for one player Secco got, he released 3 bargain chips first. We used to have a far large of players to gamble with, or at least loan and retain some short of influence between other serie A teams, just like the other big teams. One reason we were forced to release them was financial, but one more reasons is that Secco couldnt handle them, as he was losing money with almost any kind of transaction he was involved with...
It remains to be seen if this strategy will give us strategic advantage, or the other way around...
-Neither Secco's !!! It is the limited money our club had and with that we could have covered some wholes that really really hurt us!
Exactly because we dont have Real's money to spend, this is why we cant afford to overpay as they did and should be extra careful to our choices!
We have been pushed over from lesser clubs and players
Those money are a responsibility and if Secco is not able to take care of it, he should better quit!! Or at least stop boasting like an idiot...
We are not a playground for young managers, we cannot afford to lose by their mistakes.
Such experiments do multiple damage in our level, thats why such managers should be trained at smaller clubs, where their mistakes are a few millions less painful and the competitiveness level far more forgiving!
Today, that is practically no reason to take such a huge risk!
- Bla bla bla, apart from the drama, i agree that Secco, was thrown to the wolves and it wasnt his fault!
But the part when you assume that no one wanted Secco's job, was totally wrong, this could be the case for the first year, but right after we were cleansed,
right after we demonstrated that we can still compete in serie and still have a loads of cash and prestige to work with.
Right after we ripped off all ties to the previous Juve, those managers would never ever have a problem to join us.
Because they knew what was really going on and because they knew that Moggi wasnt the only doing what he did.
We never even tried to tempt any of them to our side, not even foreigners, not even assistants. The ONLY reason because we didnt got any one else, is because WE didnt wanted it!! We trusted Secco of being one of us, some thing goes with the others that are still on helm. Dont expect us to believe that so many years after calciopoli, we still cant find a proper man for the job.
We have just demonstrated what i have been saying all along and this is why our problem was never dealt! They should be replaced asap, as soon as they proved their incompetence and we had the chance to upgrade!
-We are supposed to be a competitive club, we are supposed to compete with the best out there. This scandal brought far too many steps back, we cannot afford sidesteps or even worse backsteps.
There is absolutely no good reason, not to at least try do better than that!
There is a specific reason those specific pawns are tolerated on this specific positions! Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with their competence!
-For every line you may have on Moggi, others can write a book on Secco!!
Losing Kaka when he was nothing, is not nearly as bad as losing Mutu when we did. Overpaying for Vieira is not nearly as bad, as it overpaying for Tiago.
Mistakes are always bound to happen, but once in a while we expect a few good transfers too. Being in our darkest hours, spending the money we did and having an imperative team to be optimal to our decisions, demands far better results than the usual.
Since that was almost impossible, we should at least try to equal our previous efficiency. We have always have had less resources and political/media influence,
we could only cope with the best, only because of our exceptional management.
Thats why we were labeled a company. This is how the game is played.
Our political and our financial status has been enhanced and cant be enhanced!
All we can do, is to increase our managerial efficiency to the highest competitive levels.
-What exactly makes it damn good transfer campaign???
The names?? Doesnt the transfer campaign also include the names we lost?? (Criscito too)
Doesnt include the amount we have paid for those names?
Doesnt this transfer campaign includes our priorities? (fullbacks)
Or is it just about the fancy names, no matter what the cost???
-Secco's mistakes cost us 50mil (give or go)
Who is held responsible for that money?? It should all just go away like that??
Who is held responsible for Tiago locking our president on the toilet and then force us to pay his salary and bonuses??
Who is held responsible that we are forced to loan Almiron and pay a part of his salary too, until the day he is released and lose the last penny we paid for him?
Who he is held responsible that Genoa had a clause to keep Criscito and then buy his contract so cheap? When we are still struggling to find a half decent replacement until the last transfer day?
-They were not stolen but thrown away, for one player Secco got, he released 3 bargain chips first. We used to have a far large of players to gamble with, or at least loan and retain some short of influence between other serie A teams, just like the other big teams. One reason we were forced to release them was financial, but one more reasons is that Secco couldnt handle them, as he was losing money with almost any kind of transaction he was involved with...
It remains to be seen if this strategy will give us strategic advantage, or the other way around...
-Neither Secco's !!! It is the limited money our club had and with that we could have covered some wholes that really really hurt us!
Exactly because we dont have Real's money to spend, this is why we cant afford to overpay as they did and should be extra careful to our choices!
We have been pushed over from lesser clubs and players
Those money are a responsibility and if Secco is not able to take care of it, he should better quit!! Or at least stop boasting like an idiot...
We are not a playground for young managers, we cannot afford to lose by their mistakes.
Such experiments do multiple damage in our level, thats why such managers should be trained at smaller clubs, where their mistakes are a few millions less painful and the competitiveness level far more forgiving!
Today, that is practically no reason to take such a huge risk!
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