Thats also what i count as the legendary clubs. Minus Barcelona which biggest history came 10-12 years ago.
What about Dortmund?
I know they only won 8 BL titles and 1 CL, but i still count them as a big club. Not being a giant though, but definitely bigger than City, Chelsea, PSG and so on.
Nah. I don't think anyone else can be added to the giants.
Barca gets there because they have quite a large number of La Liga titles, and their recent dominance in Europe. Not a historical great, but their present allows them in.
Madrid, Bayern, Juve at the top... because of combined Domestic+Europe
Milan, Liverpool, Ajax, Barca, United in the same tier, maybe half a step below.
Napoli, Dortmund, Celtic, Porto, Inter, Benfica, Rangers, clubs like that a full tier or more below.
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Napoli had one period in their history where they were a top team. If they count, Parma, BVB & Chelsea do too
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I'd say there's a definite too three:
Real, Juve, Bayern.
They've been huge throughout the times. Got dozens of legendary players each.
And then there are the rest of PI's list (+imo United) who:ve had extended periods of being at the top, but also a number of patches where they were nothing more but mediocre.
