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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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maybe madrid but not chelsea, not with their lack of fire power and without matic
Mourinho is the last non italian coach in the game who can organise a defence, controll space, and create a perfect defensive unit.
When you hard counter an opponent , you dont need as much firepower. And at chelsea, Mourinho finally got the defensive players he needs compared to madrid.

PSG have the same potential, if not higher, then chelsea, but they lack a defensive genius to turn it into a perfect defence

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I think PSG is much stronger than one year ago. Cavani, Ibra, Matuidi, Motta, Silva, Verratti, Lucas, Lavezzi, Marquinhos, Van der Wiel, Sirigu....... Maaan thats impressive.


Ibra,Cavani - actually the best duet on the earth.
They got perhaps even more talent then Bayern. But unless blanc can set himself apart with brilliant tactics and organisation, they wont win
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Mourinho is the last non italian coach in the game who can organise a defence, controll space, and create a perfect defensive unit.
When you hard counter an opponent , you dont need as much firepower. And at chelsea, Mourinho finally got the defensive players he needs compared to madrid.

PSG have the same potential, if not higher, then chelsea, but they lack a defensive genius to turn it into a perfect defence

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They got perhaps even more talent then Bayern. But unless blanc can set himself apart with brilliant tactics and organisation, they wont win
No
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Simular quality goalkeeper

Tiago silva is a better defender then any of bayern
Marquinhos is the biggest defensive talent of the past years.
Their fullbacks are decent to good

=>psg has a better defence

Their holding midfielders, are less allround then bayern's, but if Tiago motta has a good day, they are defensively as good if not better. I know you'll disagree, but few understood why he was actually the most vidal player for inter's scudetto.
The winger talent and central talent, is not far from bayern's winger and central talent(am).

However, PSG has significantly better forwards

All in all, if PSG's holding midfielders win the battle, they can defeat bayern.



Since you dont understand tactics and defensive part of football, i dont expect you to understand or agree Rakib, its okay.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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The thing that separates Bayern from PSG is their cohesiveness as a team. They may not have the best attackers, but they're efficient.
Yeah, thats what i admired from the previous bayern coach, how he made this demolishing machine. Guardiola is lucky to receive such finetuned machine to fiddle with

PSG on the other hand... They are very lucky with Tiago Motta, and Blanc is a good coach. But not world class
 

Preet

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Sep 7, 2010
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Simular quality goalkeeper

Tiago silva is a better defender then any of bayern
Marquinhos is the biggest defensive talent of the past years.
Their fullbacks are decent to good

=>psg has a better defence

Their holding midfielders, are less allround then bayern's, but if Tiago motta has a good day, they are defensively as good if not better. I know you'll disagree, but few understood why he was actually the most vidal player for inter's scudetto.
The winger talent and central talent, is not far from bayern's winger and central talent(am).

However, PSG has significantly better forwards

All in all, if PSG's holding midfielders win the battle, they can defeat bayern.



Since you dont understand tactics and defensive part of football, i dont expect you to understand or agree Rakib, its okay.
:lol:
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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PSG have better players in Bayern in some positions (thinking of in central defense and up front), but Bayern as a team are just so well oiled I think it'll be tough to stop them winning it again.

Had a debate with a mate last night, who would win between these 3 teams:

Current Bayern vs Barca 08-11 vs Milan 89-93
 

Preet

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OK, that is a fair enough statement. But instead of laughing at him, disprove his points. Tell us why he's clueless.
Similar quality GK? Neuer is the best GK in the world right now. Untouchable.

he's right about Thiago Silva, but just because Marquinhos is young and talented doesn't mean he's better than Dante or Boateng or Badstuber.

Bayern's fullbacks clearly shit all over PSG's.

Summary: Bayern's defense is miles better.

Thiago Motta on a good day? When was the last time that happened? :lol: Notice how he contradicts himself by not mentioning Javi Martinez now, who was his god a few days ago.

Their wingers are not far from Bayern's? RIbery, Robben, Shaqiri, and co. compared to whom? Lavezzi? :lol:

Summary: Bayern have the best midfield in Europe.

PSG has significantly better forwards? Individually yes but this is not PES.

Bayern's team play is magnificent while PSG solely depend on Zlatan's magic.

Summary: Bayern shit all over PSG.

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That's not one of her talents.
your father warned me about something with you the other day. he said something about you wearing your mother bras?
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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PSG have better players in Bayern in some positions (thinking of in central defense and up front), but Bayern as a team are just so well oiled I think it'll be tough to stop them winning it again.

Had a debate with a mate last night, who would win between these 3 teams:

Current Bayern vs Barca 08-11 vs Milan 89-93
Why didn't you put Lippi's 95-98 Juve in there? :p

Milan 89-93 would edge the aforementioned three way clash.
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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Can we put us in that bracket though? Choking in 2 CL finals cost that side our chance of immortality IMO, even if we were the best side in Europe during that time, no one remembers losers.
 

Powis

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Dec 9, 2009
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thing is PSG will have already qualified for europe so lyon will already enter as runners up if they fail to win the french cup, meaning their position in the league as well means nothing. I think lyon will fight this one out knowing that
So if you win the French cup, it gives you the CL place over there in France? Or you mean the EL?

@Badass Vidal

:lol:

I hope your sandwiches are really good.
Shut up, you sexist! :lol2:
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Similar quality GK? Neuer is the best GK in the world right now. Untouchable.

he's right about Thiago Silva, but just because Marquinhos is young and talented doesn't mean he's better than Dante or Boateng or Badstuber.

Bayern's fullbacks clearly shit all over PSG's.

Summary: Bayern's defense is miles better.

Thiago Motta on a good day? When was the last time that happened? :lol: Notice how he contradicts himself by not mentioning Javi Martinez now, who was his god a few days ago.

Their wingers are not far from Bayern's? RIbery, Robben, Shaqiri, and co. compared to whom? Lavezzi? :lol:

Summary: Bayern have the best midfield in Europe.

PSG has significantly better forwards? Individually yes but this is not PES.

Bayern's team play is magnificent while PSG solely depend on Zlatan's magic.

Summary: Bayern shit all over PSG.
:howler: Zach tends to exaggerate and be biased at times, but your rebuttal is weak. PSG's Cbs are superior to Bayern's. Dante is slow and cumbersome; he just doesn't get exposed often enough. Boateng is incredibly average, and Badstuber has only recently returned from a long injury layoff. We have no idea what shape or form he is going to be in. Bayern clearly have the advantage in goal and when it comes to their flanks, whether it be in defense or midfield. PSG's midfield is solid but definitely pales in comparison to what Bayern have to offer. When it comes to the forwards, Bayern only has Mandzukic and Pizarro as recognizable CFs. Ibra alone is superior to anything they have to offer in that department, and we haven't even started talking about Cavani.

The bottom line is, if those two teams came up against one another, it's going to be a lot closer than many might think.

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Can we put us in that bracket though? Choking in 2 CL finals cost that side our chance of immortality IMO, even if we were the best side in Europe during that time, no one remembers losers.
:sigh: I suppose you are right. The ultimate chokers. We need to meet Benfica in the EL Final, just to settle this once and for all :D
 

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