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Apr 15, 2006
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That's Bullshit Andries. Name me two players doing more than him on the pitch.

Football wise, Xavi is one complete player and there's no one better than him ATM.



Not true at all. It's one of the few times I disagree with you, but I'm going to strongly disagree here. Here's what Xavi does other than pass the ball wide...

1- Perfect ball control at his feet
2- Can kill the rhythm of the game any minute any second.
3- Perfect ball passer. Perfect crosser.
4- Immense vision on the pitch.
5- Knows when to attack, when to slow down the game.
6- Can defend and attack almost at the same times.
7- Stamina.
btw, it was Xavi's cross for the Messi goal. :)
 

Max

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I have a question about Messi. When was the last time, if at all, that he had some sort of ligament damage in his knee or anywhere else in his body? And when did he stop the growth hormone treatment?
 

Max

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he had a bad injury last season and missed almost half the year. I dont know what injury it was.
That was a bone in his foot. I don't want to discredit his abilities or anything, because obviously he is a hell of a player. However, the whole growth hormone treatment thing seems fishy to me. He had a deficiency, yes...but when did he finish growing? I'm sure the Barça doctors know, but we don't. If you keep giving growth hormone to a person after they're already done growing, it helps one burn fat easier and strengthens one's connective tissue (ie. ligaments).
 

C4ISR

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Xavi and Iniesta showing y they are the 2 most intelligent players in the world. I can't pick 1 over the other.

Euro, La Liga and CL. 1 of them should win the golden ball.
 

v1rtu4l

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You did?
I didn't enjoy it at all apart from the first 10 minutes and the start of the second half where at least something was happening. In the meantime all you could see was Manchester doing nothing but choking and Barca passing around till death.

This was the most boring final i've seen in a decade or so (people say Milan-Juve was the most boring one but i was a fan and it certainly wasn't boring for me :smile: )
now imagine how entertaining it was when you only switched on the tv after the 25th minute of the first half.

apart from pinocchios header it was too few of a goal parade ... watching the has-been henry trying to make it past his marker with feints that you could already read in last sundays tuttosport was really boring ...

there was really much pointless passing without target ... it is really a kind of boring the opponent so much he falls asleep with nonsense-passes

other exciting episodes of the game were puyols crosses (did not even get the ball higher then 1 meter) and messis cross with his weaker foot (did fail to go past a defender that was 5 meters away) or henrys shot with approx. 2 mph speed straight on van der sar.
 
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That was a bone in his foot. I don't want to discredit his abilities or anything, because obviously he is a hell of a player. However, the whole growth hormone treatment thing seems fishy to me. He had a deficiency, yes...but when did he finish growing? I'm sure the Barça doctors know, but we don't. If you keep giving growth hormone to a person after they're already done growing, it helps one burn fat easier and strengthens one's connective tissue (ie. ligaments).
I would not be too suspicious of it. I dont think he kept it going past the age of 17 or 18. I think it was only for a year or 2. Injections everyday.

Either way his natural ability to keep the ball glued to his feet and run flat out is something other worldly.
 
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