[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (25 Viewers)
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The Times isn't English football. They're running an email campaign to move the CL final, which will likely contain an English team, because English fans in Rome keep getting stabbed. Your post smacks of petty prejudice against the English. There are plenty of better reasons to dislike them, and better issues to oppose.
Ohh please, spare me. Rome has been established as the location of the final, so if the English fans and teams don't want to go there, then they should just stay home. You see, English fans could also be stabbed in nations such as Turkey, and as I recall there were some stabbing cases there, yet The Times did not petition to move matches away from that country.
All I see it as is just another petty attack by the English media on the people they simply don't like and never will. If they're so scared, then they should stay home.
All I see it as is just another petty attack by the English media on the people they simply don't like and never will. If they're so scared, then they should stay home.
Decisions like that are not to be changed on a whim, but this isn't a whim - it's a genuine security concern.
There was a very nasty stabbing incident in Turkey, killing two Leeds fans. There have been attacks on Middlesboro, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man Utd (again) fans in Rome. It's hardly an isolated incident, and the concern is hardly baseless.
So this is all about racism? The Times hate Italians? More than Turks? More than anyone else? My arse.
There was a very nasty stabbing incident in Turkey, killing two Leeds fans. There have been attacks on Middlesboro, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man Utd (again) fans in Rome. It's hardly an isolated incident, and the concern is hardly baseless.
So this is all about racism? The Times hate Italians? More than Turks? More than anyone else? My arse.
I apologise; I was unnecessarily dismissive. I'd just been reading the Mayor of Rome's pretty poor contribution to the debate* and kind of swept you up in the same sentiment.
* If you didn't read that post - he used a piss poor comparison of the number of results for two google searchs to imply that London was a more dangerous place, when even a casual examination of the figures implies the opposite, and the Mayor of Rome should have the actual crime stats, methinks. I really, really hate elected officials displaying ignorance of statistics or using bad stats to fudge an issue.
* If you didn't read that post - he used a piss poor comparison of the number of results for two google searchs to imply that London was a more dangerous place, when even a casual examination of the figures implies the opposite, and the Mayor of Rome should have the actual crime stats, methinks. I really, really hate elected officials displaying ignorance of statistics or using bad stats to fudge an issue.
Ahh yes, a genuine security concern. You know, I wonder if the same proposition would be made if an Italian team would still be in the competition. The answer is probably not.
But fine, change the location of the final after Rome has been preparing for it. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt the economy entirely too much, but it still might be a blow to some bottom lines around Stadio Olimpico.
And yes, we know. It's never, ever the fault of the English.
It must be said though that the English media isn't too fond of Italians, or practically anybody other than themselves.
As I said, the match was set for Rome. Too bad. If English fans and media are scared, then just don't go.
Honestly, I don't really see what the point is here. English supporters would go to much more dangerous places to follow their teams. The only place this leads to is advocating banning all matches from cities such as Rome, Belgrade, Zagreb, along with others across the globe.
But fine, change the location of the final after Rome has been preparing for it. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt the economy entirely too much, but it still might be a blow to some bottom lines around Stadio Olimpico.
And yes, we know. It's never, ever the fault of the English.
It must be said though that the English media isn't too fond of Italians, or practically anybody other than themselves.
As I said, the match was set for Rome. Too bad. If English fans and media are scared, then just don't go.
Honestly, I don't really see what the point is here. English supporters would go to much more dangerous places to follow their teams. The only place this leads to is advocating banning all matches from cities such as Rome, Belgrade, Zagreb, along with others across the globe.
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