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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Andy said:
I would be more afraid of the other way around.
Well, that's you who thinks each and every Barcelona player are god of football and Rijkaard being the coaching genius that everyone has waited for.

I'll try to fix a meeting for you and m_elayyan to watch a Barca game together, you can praise Ronalinho's ass as much as you want.
 

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Jacques said:
Well, that's you who thinks each and every Barcelona player are god of football and Rijkaard being the coaching genius that everyone has waited for.

I'll try to fix a meeting for you and m_elayyan to watch a Barca game together, you can praise Ronalinho's ass as much as you want.
Look, Jack, Barcelona are a team who should be feared with their glut of weapons and playing style. Now I'm not saying this because I'm in love with the Catalan giants, but because it's the truth... the team deserves respect whether you like them or not. This Barcelona squad is not the equivelent to the Real Madrid of years past that had all the talent in the world and couldn't even win a teddy bear from a one dollar claw machine after spending over millions on it. We could blast those imbeciles all we want.. but not this Barca team. Barcelona plays good football, wins matches, and this is even without two of their top forwards at the moment.

I'm no friggin Barcelona gloryhunter, however I do admire them as they're a classy side. And I still have no idea how one could admire Chelsea but detest Barcelona... sounds like there are some alternative motives behind such tripe but what do I know.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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The only thing I don't understand is why everytime I mention Barcelona someone has to mention Real Madrid.

Argument? Who was giving an argument here? I just stated my opinion.

If you want to know why aren't they classy I'll tell you why

They have Thuram and you more than me know what that means.
Ronaldinho maybe talented but can you show me one sign of class he has ever done? He celebrates like a crazy chicken, he gets frustrated like a psycho when it's not his day and he looks like a rabid werewolf before he takes any freekick.
Their fans are the most arrogant people on earth. Yes more arrogant than Arsenal fans.
Eto'o may be a great forward but where is the class? I am still not able to see that.
I can go on here, but I choose not to.

Their huge image of no jersey sponsor is just a big joke to win more fans which makes them as classy as Abramovic.

Then again my admiration to Chelsea is only because of Mourinho as a character and because he beat Barcelona fair and square.

Respect is the last thing I would give to the Catalan midgets.
 

Roverbhoy

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Jul 31, 2002
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Fliakis said:
anyone from celtic, arsenal, lyon and valencia winning it would be fine with me. if this was the top 4, it would almost be as good as having juventus in this tournament and seeing them knocked out in quarters :D


If only this would happen...but sadly Celtic are mince, and Arsenal aren't firing on all cylinders...so won't happen.

Lyon are my tip, and a Valencia win is overdue
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Jacques said:
The only thing I don't understand is why everytime I mention Barcelona someone has to mention Real Madrid.

Argument? Who was giving an argument here? I just stated my opinion.

If you want to know why aren't they classy I'll tell you why

They have Thuram and you more than me know what that means.
Ronaldinho maybe talented but can you show me one sign of class he has ever done? He celebrates like a crazy chicken, he gets frustrated like a psycho when it's not his day and he looks like a rabid werewolf before he takes any freekick.
Their fans are the most arrogant people on earth. Yes more arrogant than Arsenal fans.
Eto'o may be a great forward but where is the class? I am still not able to see that.
I can go on here, but I choose not to.

Their huge image of no jersey sponsor is just a big joke to win more fans which makes them as classy as Abramovic.

Then again my admiration to Chelsea is only because of Mourinho as a character and because he beat Barcelona fair and square.

Respect is the last thing I would give to the Catalan midgets.

1) So what if they have Thuram? Our club who we desperately love have featured the likes of Emerson, Vieira, Ibrahimovic and Thuram in the same team. Talk about classless..

2) Ronaldinho is a magician with the ball and has loads of technique. So would you also like to label Eto'o as one of our furry friends of the Democratic Republic of Congo? Don't think that one would swing too well, would it..

3) You know, that's quite a funny statement to say Barcelona fans are the most arrogant on earth, because I've personally heard people state Juventus fans are the most arrogant as well. I've also heard that Madridistas are more arrogant than Barca supporters, and that nouvo riche Chelsea fans cannot be labled arrogant because they're the scum dripping off of Abramovich's oil barrels. No matter what, supporters of the most distinguished clubs in the world will be labled arrogant and in most cases indeed are, so this point of matter regarding Barcelona does not really add up to much.

Too be honest, all I see here are just subjective reasons to hate a club. But I suppose we all have such feelings locked inside for one thing or another.
 

Falafel

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Jul 23, 2006
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Jacques said:
The only thing I don't understand is why everytime I mention Barcelona someone has to mention Real Madrid.

Argument? Who was giving an argument here? I just stated my opinion.

If you want to know why aren't they classy I'll tell you why

They have Thuram and you more than me know what that means.
Ronaldinho maybe talented but can you show me one sign of class he has ever done? He celebrates like a crazy chicken, he gets frustrated like a psycho when it's not his day and he looks like a rabid werewolf before he takes any freekick.
Their fans are the most arrogant people on earth. Yes more arrogant than Arsenal fans.
Eto'o may be a great forward but where is the class? I am still not able to see that.
I can go on here, but I choose not to.

Their huge image of no jersey sponsor is just a big joke to win more fans which makes them as classy as Abramovic.

Then again my admiration to Chelsea is only because of Mourinho as a character and because he beat Barcelona fair and square.

Respect is the last thing I would give to the Catalan midgets.
:agree:
+rep on a great post
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Roverbhoy said:
If only this would happen...but sadly Celtic are mince, and Arsenal aren't firing on all cylinders...so won't happen.

Lyon are my tip, and a Valencia win is overdue
Hopefully either Lyon or Valencia will win because I don't like the rest of the lot. However, what I am dreading the most is an all-English Final.

Dear Lord, save us now.
 

Roverbhoy

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Jul 31, 2002
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Andy said:
what I am dreading the most is an all-English Final.

Dear Lord, save us now.
As a Scot I'd have to emigrate, as all we would hear for the next 40 years would be..."remember '07, just like '66"...aaaggghhh

still, a Chelsea V Man U final would be a great spectacle to atttend.
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Same old story: Outsiders don't stand a chance in Champions League


    Maybe they should just rename it The Big Three Plus Three. Three big leagues and three big clubs, and that's it. The Champions League group stage has revealed, once again, that the gap between the rich and not-so-rich in Europe is growing and it isn't going to get better.

    Europe's biggest crown is a closed shop. Unless you're from one of the Big Three leagues or you happen to be the club dominating the scene in Germany, France or Holland, you might want to plan on renting a couple of DVDs between February and May, because, odds are, you won't be playing in the Champions League knockout stages.

    Between them, La Liga, Serie A and the Premiership sent 10 teams into the group stage of the Champions League. All 10 qualified for the next round, with six topping their groups. True, Chievo and Osasuna -- Spain and Italy's fourth representatives -- were knocked out in the qualifying stage. But Chievo was only there because of the shenanigans of Fiorentina and Juventus.

    Chievo Verona's "flying donkeys" were never equipped for the Champions League and, in any case, have bigger fish to fry (like figuring out how to avoid relegation). And the latter also applies to Osasuna, an overachiever that was out of its depth at this altitude.

    Bayern Munich, Lyon and PSV Eindhoven all qualified as well, which was, frankly, not surprising. The simple truth is that these teams dominate comparatively second-tier leagues. Lyon has won five straight French titles. Bayern and PSV have won three of the last four and six of the last eight.

    These clubs exist in a sort of privileged limbo. Every year, they lose top players to the Big Three (Michael Ballack, Mahamadou Diarra, Andre Ooijer) and every season they fill their shoes by cherry-picking the cream of the crop from their domestic league. If the Big Three are the aristocracy, these three are the bourgeoisie, who know they have to be subservient to the blue-bloods but make up for it by oppressing the masses.

    The masses is everybody else. This year, three clubs from outside the Big Three Plus Three advanced to the knockout stage. Celtic did it while losing to everybody else in the group at least once. Lille did it by winning just two games, one of them away to AC Milan in its last group-stage match, with the Rossoneri showing about as much interest in the game as Liberace might have shown in Ginger Lynn.:rofl: Porto, which, to be fair, is a reasonable team, advanced thanks to a draw with Arsenal which was always in the cards (both teams needed a point to go through).

    The reality though is that the balance of power is wholly skewed in favor of a very select number of clubs. Porto and Monaco are the only clubs from outside the Big Three Plus Three to have reached the semifinals in the last four years. And in the last 32 quarterfinalists just four clubs have come from outside the hallowed circle of privilege.

    There are a bunch of reasons for this: Most have to do with TV money and the capacity of a club to exploit its dominant position domestically. And there is no easy way to address it. But it does need to be dealt with because the risks are real, and not just from a sporting perspective, but from a commercial one, too.

    UEFA makes money (which it then redistributes to clubs) by selling Champions League rights in each individual European nation. How soon before a broadcaster in Belgium, Sweden or Russia decides that it no longer wants to pay top dollar for a competition where none of its domestic clubs have a prayer? And even in the case of France and Germany (two of Europe's three wealthiest TV markets), why pay so much for the whole competition when, at best, you'll get to see Lyon or Bayern?

    The dominance of the Big Three has never been more obvious. Milan, stuttering in the bottom half of Serie A, wins its group with two weeks to spare. Liverpool, 11 points off the pace domestically, also qualifies early, as does Valencia, ninth in La Liga. If this were a level playing field, there would be no real problem. But it isn't. Something needs to be done.

    By Gabriele Marcotti
     

    Marc

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    Jul 14, 2006
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    This was discussed already and I agree, something has to be done, they should restrict to maximum 2 Clubs per League, that way it would be more competitive.
     

    JCK

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    JCK
    May 11, 2004
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    Isn't it also subjective that a great (I don't know who labelled Barcelona great) team should be paid respect?

    Isn't it also subjective to say that they play the most attractive football?

    Isn't also subjective to say that a certain player is a magician?

    Isn't also subjective to say that these fans are arrogant or the others are also arrogant?

    Where did anyone see my labelling Juventus as a classy team? Another question pops up, similar to the one I asked about Real Madrid. Why is it when I mention something about Barcelona, someone has to compare it with another team?
     

    JCK

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    JCK
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    Arif said:
    so what? this is football, not beauty of the year contest.
    I don't care of he's ugly or beautiful, he is just posing for the camera.




    On another note, he's uglier than Camilla
     

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