[EU] Champions League 04/05 (24 Viewers)

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
Lily, Juve can be just as lucky, you've had a great deal of luck to. Fact is until Capello leaves Juve they'll never win anything in Europe
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
Last year Milan WERE the best team in Europe and they were humiliated by Deportivo. This is what the competition is all about, some teams give it all in one game.

Have Milan done that? Absolutely no.

Let us go back to Milan in the CL this year and see why are they called the best and supposed to win.

- The group stage: Barcelona were better and Milan was obviously the second team in the group. They both managed to go through. Were they the second best among all the teams that went through? NO!!! Chelsea, Barcelona, Juventus (yes Juventus) and Bayern Munich all looked better than the football Milan were playing.

- The Manure encounter: Looking at the clash in a shallow point of view one can just smell war. The clash of giants, but when one looks closer, the weaknesses of manure start to become more and more clear and the superiority that Milan showed on the pitch. Were they more superior? Yes, but barely.

- The Euro derby: Milan's luck started to appear more and more at that point. I will not say Milan's luck rather it was Dida's miraculous saves and Sheva's killer instinct. But looking at what was going on the pitch, Milan were being outclassed, outplayed and owned.

- 'The best team lost' - Jose Mourinho 2005: This phrase applies for bothe semi finals. Do we need to repeat what we have been saying about the encounter? All Milan fans and all football critics said and understood that Milan robbed the encounter. I do not believe in this opportunistic play because this is not football, this is gambling. The same way Liverpool gambled against Juventus and against Chelsea. What makes Milan's gamble look better is only the players they have that are all beyond par: Kaka, Seedorf, Pirlo and others are just big names that make it look more shiny while they are underperforming. Ambrosini scoring the saviour? Who ever thought of that? No one, not even him, not even Ancelotti was expecting it saying that because some people say that Ancelotti's substitutions are always the right person in the right place and thus making a difference. This also proves my theory about the OVER-RATED coach that got the glory just of the players he had at hand and winning a CL that was not only not deserved but he did not deserve to be in the final either.

I would like to rant more about Ancelotti, the superior coach and master tactician that has the best qualilty players and not able to take points lead in the league against a team that has half or even less the quality players + no depth + a saga of injuries.

Let us look at the tournament in other encounters:
- Barcelona vs. Chelsea: The better team lost.
- Bayern vs. Chelsea: The better team lost (2 deflected shots killed Bayern).
- Liverpool vs. Juventus: The better team lost.
- Liverpool vs. Chelsea: The better team lost.

On paper Milan is the better team among the finalists, I just hope they lose so they will see how ugly it is what they have been doing.
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

The MANCHESTER UNITED encounter: Looking at the clash in a shallow point of view one can just smell war. The clash of giants, but when one looks closer, the weaknesses of MANCHESTER UNITED start to become more and more clear and the superiority that Milan showed on the pitch. Were they more superior? Yes, but barely.
The fact of the matter of this game was that Milan were better then us over both legs and deserved to go through. Its difficult to say what would of happened had both teams been at full-strengh, there is a slight disappointment that Ruud wasnt fully fit and that Sheva missed the game, its could of been a classic had both teams been at full strengh, but respect to Milan they were simply better...

However that respect will disappear if they fail to beat Liverpool, come on FORZA MILAN!!
 

Len

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2004
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FVCK..........why is Milan always so fvcking lucky, I don't understand......

PSV's dreams (and mine) are over because of a last gasp Milan goal....:down:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


The fact of the matter of this game was that Milan were better then us over both legs and deserved to go through. Its difficult to say what would of happened had both teams been at full-strengh, there is a slight disappointment that Ruud wasnt fully fit and that Sheva missed the game, its could of been a classic had both teams been at full strengh, but respect to Milan they were simply better...

However that respect will disappear if they fail to beat Liverpool, come on FORZA MILAN!!
Milan were the better side, true. But they were better than a very weak team.
 

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
7,561
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Milan were the better side, true. But they were better than a very weak team.
I dont think so, we werent exactly on top-form true. But you cant say we were 'weak' when had Giggs striker hadnt of it the post we'd of won the match, you can say a 'weak' team was that close to winning.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by A_LAcki ] ++


Well, than the last games of both teams will be decisive. Milan look kind of tired and really bad. Their last games were all very bad. Won 2-0 against PSV without even existing in the 2nd half, 2-1 against Fiorentina with 2 shot on goals and now this ROBBERY (very well said Jeeks) against PSV.

On the contrary, Capello has a fresh Mutu for the last games. I would say, after a draw we have the better cards!
Does Mutu have a right to play against Milan,or you mean for the last game in Seria A?
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
i can't...
milan pissed me off so much yesterday,i still can't believe it....i am soooo upset i am swearing milan all day!!

it's crazy how lucky you are :fero:

Lily, it's just football.


++ [ originally posted by giovanotti ] ++

Does Mutu have a right to play against Milan,or you mean for the last game in Seria A?

Last two games actually.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


I dont think so, we werent exactly on top-form true. But you cant say we were 'weak' when had Giggs striker hadnt of it the post we'd of won the match, you can say a 'weak' team was that close to winning.
See you against Chelsea for a few days.:rofl:

Milan knocked out you with routine.:skull:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


I dont think so, we werent exactly on top-form true. But you cant say we were 'weak' when had Giggs striker hadnt of it the post we'd of won the match, you can say a 'weak' team was that close to winning.
Call it whatever you want weak, off-form, etc. Milan played a weaker side and they made it look like they owned them.
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Call it whatever you want weak, off-form, etc. Milan played a weaker side and they made it look like they owned them.
Exactly 'how' did Milan play a weaker side? They were without Sheva, thats it. And I know that, Milan were 5x better then we were, I'm not saying we were better, I was merely saying that, had Giggs of scored it would of been different, but really it doesnt matter, we're out, Milan is in Final, GO MILAN!
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
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are you saying that because he registered with Livorno? I'm 90% sure Mutu will be eligible to play for us in our last two Serie A matches
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
He was signed by Livorno and transferred to us the same day.

He's registered with us.
True, people are thinking otherwise, that he was signed by us and transferred to Livorno.
 

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