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[peckface]

vlatko: Actually first half, if you watched it, gotta say was pretty nice footie from Barca. Even if them Betis got a few chances. I'd say it was pretty flee flowing. Though in the second they looked a bunch of chockarz.

That is for sure. Anyway, I would like to Madrid to win the La Liga and see the faces of barca fans.

Woawh is Barca even more hated then Capello and R.Madrid on the juventuz.com hatlist? I didn't see that coming.

 

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[sateeh]

why? is he an Anti-Juve? is it because he didn't play Del Piero regular? or is it because he won us two Scudetti (like you guys say, it was won on the pitch)..

what the reason of this hate?

Spot on and +rep on the big post after that

Why I don't like Capello

Here we go Snoop. Yes, he coached Juventus during two successful seasons (As some people think), I still don't like him, nevertheless.

First of all, comparing Capello to Ancelotti. Who was Ancelotti when he joined us and who was Capello when he joined us? I think this question answers itself. Capello was rated as one of Europe's most winning coaches, while Anelotti was an ex-Parma coach. Thus, we should have expected much of the former. By the way, I didn't like to compare them to each other. As, I wasn't expecting much of Ancelotti anyway..

Back to Capello's era, yes, Luciano Moggi was our "Transfer Guru", but this doesn't mean that he could negotiate a single player without an approval of the coach in charge. And don't try to convince me that Moggi was the one who chose, negotiated and finalised the transfers. Yes, he negotiated and finalised them but Capello had to choose first, that's why he is a coach. Moggi could propose a specific player when he saw some qualities in that player Capello didn't see or didn't know about, i.e. a free player, a young talent by the scouts, etc...Hence, I have to say that Capello before Moggi was responsible for the players joined Juventus in the past couple of seasons.

As for the players whom Capello bought, not all Juventini dreamt of these players. To me, all the players joined us were either below par players or players who didn't fit in Juventus playing style, bar Cannavaro and Ibrahimovic. While Mutu was a Moggi's inspiration. However, the previous two players failed in Juventus. Ibrahimovic for being showy, inconsistent and an arrogant prick who played for himself and Mutu for playing out of position most of the time, he was a Nedved's substitute.

Regarding the other players, I'm not going to talk much about Vieira, just read this post. It was posted by an Arsenal fan, but I agree to it 100%

Emerson, what I have to say about the most overrated player ever!
And I have to add that he shined only because the only coach who thinks that Emerson can be a good football player is Capello. That's why, he took him to every team he coached. And if it happened and he was good at Roma, so this was attributed to the decent squad Roma had when he was a Roma player. But in Juve he sucked. There is another thing, generally when a team defends well, people think that all team players are good defenders, but this is certainly untrue. By the way, this has been my opinion about Vieira and Emerson even before joining us.

Zebina, he nearly lived the same conditions as Emerson's at Roma, that's why he joined us. To me, he is a below average player whose only gift is being a solid defender and nothing more. By the way, I think he struggles in Serie B.

Kovac and Giannichedda, the former can warm the bench while the latter is just a running machine with no brain.

As for the players Capello approved of their sale, why Tacchinardi? And he's been a well experienced player and I rate him five times better than the likes of Emerson and Giannichedda. Maresca, just I advise you to watch Sevilla's matches. Miccoli and Di Vaio were good with lippi, especially the latter who was a perfect substitute to any of our forwards and versatile as well, Lippi used to place him as a left midfielder and he was good. Why did he get rid of him?!

Appiah, do you remember the season he played just before his departure? Do you remember Milan's match at San Siro? The guy was a beast. Not like Emerson who can't run for 10 minutes or Vieira whose only talent nowadays has to be making silly fouls and living on his past reputation.

Now to Capello's tactics. I reckon that Capello is one of a very few coaches, I've seen, who have no plan B. Capello can read the opponent very well and can field his players defensively well too. But, the man's tactics lack three essential points; Pace, creativity and plan B. He is responsible for the pace and creativity because he is responsible of the players whom he gets and the instructions he gives. I don't know whether you noticed it or not, but when we're losing, the man usually failed to switch to a proper attacking way to compensate. I'm not against defending, on the contrary, I believe that defending should have the priority. Nonetheless, a top side can't just live on it, a balanced mentality is the only solution for big sides and was urgently required in our case.

Definitely, when it comes to what he achieved in the domestic league, I can't say that he did a miracle, he was managing Juventus. Any good manager can lead Juventus successfully in the Serie A. Hence, I see that we can judge Capello by what he did in Europe. On this scale, when you compare him to Lippi, you'll perceive that Lippi built an amazing team of the highest caliber in 2001/02 and 2002/03, he decreased the average age of the entire squad, what is more. Whereas, Capello was a geriatric lovers. By the way, Capello didn't fail only with Juve in Europe, but also Real Madrid were a disgrace in this term's Champions League. I know that any big side could be easily eliminated out of Europe without reaching the final, that's normal. But to be knocked out of Europe by two English teams having the same playing mentality, besides Capello using the same old fashioned sterile tactics with no any sort of improvement, that was a howler.

One last thing Snoop. Del Piero has nothing to do with this issue. Whether Capello fielded him or not, this isn't by any mean an assertion to all Capello haters to hate him. There were reasons behind our heavy criticism.

-Well we are a big club and we have high expectations of all the coaches we bring whatever their names are big or small( even DD).Ancelotti will have the same expectations as capello did.

-About Mutu, i thought all transfers were negotiated with the coach first ?

-Viera was a world class player and the best box to box player around at that time.And any team would've wanted him there.

You have a problem with Emerson so i won't bring that up. But i will say this, he was instrumental in both Scudettos and had man of the match games on multiple occasions. And you say about him is just a pure unfairness imo.

-about Maresca, as good as he was he was still on the bench in Sevilla for the most part of the season.
Di Vaio wasn't the player he was at parma although he was fairly good for us. But his career was on the down, just look at his time at Valencia and even some games with Genoa in Serie B.

-Anyway, every coach has a vision about what his team would be like.Some players don't fit in their systems, it sucks sometimes but there has to be an end result and there was. He made the decisions and had two scudettos more, so its not like our season was a failure.

You know what i hope Madrid win the League, cause Capello earned that one.

 

[Yamen]

It is a very simple question in fact. I don't hate Barca, but I don't like their football. It is very rare to find a fan who cheers for an Italian team especially Juventus can support Barca's football. Furthermore, I do believe that they are a very overrated team. And they were more than lucky to win the CL in the previous season.

By the way, Bacelona are very popular on this forum. Just check the previous pages of this thread.

I know it is difficult to see the relevance of both styles, but still, when they are inform, no one denies that they become a joy to the eye when they play as a unit, but still; this preference has nothing to do with Juve who have a different attacking style, then any other team in italy. Maybe Rome are adopting a similar style of play lately.. Not so sure though ..

 

[JCK]

They played excellent attacking, free flowing football.

True :rofl2:

I know it is difficult to see the relevance of both styles, but still, when they are inform, no one denies that they become a joy to the eye when they play as a unit, but still; this preference has nothing to do with Juve who have a different attacking style, then any other team in italy. Maybe Rome are adopting a similar style of play lately.. Not so sure though ..

Not really, no matter how they dance, and pass the ball cluelessly, they will never catch my eye. Give me Mourinho's "sleeping pill" any day of the week.

 

[Daddi]

I hope Sevilla can snatch it. They would've won if they didn't try to compete in all their cups etc.

So stupid of them.

 

[Cuti]

like i said earlier in this thread, if CApello wins the La Liga it will be a huge slap in the face of all of Barca and of those Real fans that wanted him to be gotten rid of.
Capello is a good coach whether you like it or not, wherever he has been he has been successful, people may not like his style but it is effective and has brought him success all over with Real, Juve, Roma and Milan

 

[Snoop]

Why I don't like Capello
First of all, comparing Capello to Ancelotti. Who was Ancelotti when he joined us and who was Capello when he joined us? I think this question answers itself. Capello was rated as one of Europe's most winning coaches, while Anelotti was an ex-Parma coach. Thus, we should have expected much of the former. By the way, I didn't like to compare them to each other. As, I wasn't expecting much of Ancelotti anyway..

This doesn't make any sense, you contradicted with your other statement, which also doesn't make any sense "when it comes to what he achieved in the domestic league, I can't say that he did a miracle, he was managing Juventus. Any good manager can lead Juventus successfully in the Serie A"

So you are saying Ancelotti is not a good coach? he can't even win the league with us? and you said it yourself that capello is a good coach umpkin:

Back to Capello's era, yes, Luciano Moggi was our "Transfer Guru", but this doesn't mean that he could negotiate a single player without an approval of the coach in charge. And don't try to convince me that Moggi was the one who chose, negotiated and finalised the transfers. Yes, he negotiated and finalised them but Capello had to choose first, that's why he is a coach. Moggi could propose a specific player when he saw some qualities in that player Capello didn't see or didn't know about, i.e. a free player, a young talent by the scouts, etc...Hence, I have to say that Capello before Moggi was responsible for the players joined Juventus in the past couple of seasons.

How do you know these things? were you there when these transfers happened? Do you have any official documents? or you are throwing this claims out of your ass? when it comes to good transfers, It was definitely the great moggi, when it comes to bad transfers then it is all evil capello's fault..

I don't think Moggi like a good puppy commanding Capello's orders, not the moggi I know..

As for the players whom Capello bought, not all Juventini dreamt of these players. To me, all the players joined us were either below par players or players who didn't fit in Juventus playing style, bar Cannavaro and Ibrahimovic.

These two were the best transfers maybe, Cannavaro a world class defender, Zlatan a huge talent, who had a great season at the first year, and an average at the second, not to forget, we made profit out of his transfer, we could make bigger profit If we were not relegated this season..

While Mutu was a Moggi's inspiration. However, the previous two players failed in Juventus. Ibrahimovic for being showy, inconsistent and an arrogant prick who played for himself and Mutu for playing out of position most of the time, he was a Nedved's substitute.[/QUOTE]
Zlatan failed? that's why he was chosen the serie A best player of the year at the first season.. Mutu wasn't bad neither, we also made profit out of his transfer..

Regarding the other players, I'm not going to talk much about Vieira, just read this post. It was posted by an Arsenal fan, but I agree to it 100%

I don't give a fuck of what an Arsenal fan think, what is this anyway, are you presenting their quotes as facts? is that how you argue?

Vieira and Emerson are world class Midfielders, stop fooling yourself, everyone were delighted here when they come..

Emerson, what I have to say about the most overrated player ever!
And I have to add that he shined only because the only coach who thinks that Emerson can be a good football player is Capello.

are you realizing that this line doesn't make any sense? What logic is this?

That's why, he took him to every team he coached. And if it happened and he was good at Roma, so this was attributed to the decent squad Roma had when he was a Roma player. But in Juve he sucked. There is another thing, generally when a team defends well, people think that all team players are good defenders, but this is certainly untrue. By the way, this has been my opinion about Vieira and Emerson even before joining us.

Emerson proved himself since Leverkusen days, I don't know since when you watch football, but you should check your facts before you throw these claims.. Emerson had a massive role in Roma's success, he was our Target since those days, and also Real Madrid's. So don't tell me that only Capello knows his worth, or no one was interested to sign him..

Zebina, he nearly lived the same conditions as Emerson's at Roma, that's why he joined us. To me, he is a below average player whose only gift is being a solid defender and nothing more. By the way, I think he struggles in Serie B.

below average? why is he still being used by DD, is it because he is French?
alot of members will disagree with your comment about him, like I said it earlier, Zebina's problem is in his head, he needs to control his temper, and he is doing that lately, Watch the matches again carefully, and see if he is struggling or not. Zebina is not just a good defender, he also adds his skills to offense, his is also a good dribbler..

Kovac and Giannichedda, the former can warm the bench while the latter is just a running machine with no brain.

How do you know these were not Capello's transfers.. wasn't he the one looking for free transfers?

As for the players Capello approved of their sale, why Tacchinardi? And he's been a well experienced player and I rate him five times better than the likes of Emerson and Giannichedda.

you can't compare Tacchinardi with Vieira or Emerson.. Sure he was loved by the fans and by me also, but he isn't any better than those, you don't have to be an expert to realize that.. I would be happier if he stayed at the bench thou, but someone claimed he was the one who refused to stay, he wanted to play regular.

Maresca, just I advise you to watch Sevilla's matches.

I don't need an advise to comment his worth, he was a good player, and we shouldn't sell him then..

Miccoli and Di Vaio were good with lippi, especially the latter who was a perfect substitute to any of our forwards and versatile as well, Lippi used to place him as a left midfielder and he was good. Why did he get rid of him?!

Di vaio was bad even at Lippi's time, check what he did with Valencia, and check where is he now.. he was overrated, why don't you admit it was wrong to bring him to Juve, is it because Capello wasn't the responsible?

Miccoli who? :faq1:

Appiah, do you remember the season he played just before his departure? Do you remember Milan's match at San Siro? The guy was a beast. Not like Emerson who can't run for 10 minutes or Vieira whose only talent nowadays has to be making silly fouls and living on his past reputation.

Selling Appiah was a mistake.

Now to Capello's tactics. I reckon that Capello is one of a very few coaches, I've seen, who have no plan B. Capello can read the opponent very well and can field his players defensively well too. But, the man's tactics lack three essential points; Pace, creativity and plan B. He is responsible for the pace and creativity because he is responsible of the players whom he gets and the instructions he gives. I don't know whether you noticed it or not, but when we're losing, the man usually failed to switch to a proper attacking way to compensate. I'm not against defending, on the contrary, I believe that defending should have the priority. Nonetheless, a top side can't just live on it, a balanced mentality is the only solution for big sides and was urgently required in our case.

Yeah yeah.. He was winning games anyway, Boring and defensive football wins that's the sad truth. Sure I would like to see atacking football, but see how the offensive teams are losing these days, should I give you examples? I am not Capello's tactics' fan, ofcourse I want us to become like Manchester united at 2000, like the first era of Real Madrid, Like 90's Milan etc.. But isn't it in our blood to play defensive and boring football for the last decades?

btw weren't you the one once said you are a fan of Catenaccio?

Definitely, when it comes to what he achieved in the domestic league, I can't say that he did a miracle, he was managing Juventus. Any good manager can lead Juventus successfully in the Serie A. Hence, I see that we can judge Capello by what he did in Europe.

Let's Judge Ancellotti's amazing achievements in Europe when he was with Juve. uh-oh? no answer I guess..

Capello didn't fail only with Juve in Europe, but also Real Madrid were a disgrace in this term's Champions League. I know that any big side could be easily eliminated out of Europe without reaching the final, that's normal.

what Real Madrid won the last two years before Capello's arrival? Thank you

One last thing Snoop. Del Piero has nothing to do with this issue. Whether Capello fielded him or not, this isn't by any mean an assertion to all Capello haters to hate him. There were reasons behind our heavy criticism.

All these Capello hating non-sense came from here, deny it as much as you want, No one is mentioning Ancelotti name, no one hates him. yeah because he did opposite what Capello did with us, he is the responsible of the club's success..

Like I said it before, this Capello hating is no sense, you didn't give me any logical reason to hate a man with all passsion, you only discussed his coaching quality, make him the worst coach on planet, that is still is not enough to hate him and continue with the hate 6 months after his arrival, which will probably go on some years as well

 

[Maher]

it will be interesting to see if Ancelotti is back as juve coach will he be able to win with juve the schudetto

 

[Azzurri7]

The season isn't over and people started praising Crapello....some things will never change.

 

[Snoop]

The season isn't over and people started praising Crapello....some things will never change.

1- who is praising Capello?
2- Is it ok to Bash Capello 24/7 (like you do) before the season ends, and it is funny to praise him before the End of the season?
3- Hate against Capello is being discussed, and not his Coaching skills.
4- Yeah things never change for you and Capello haters, get over it, it's been six month of his departure umpkin:


got it?

 

[Marc]

they played good only in the first half and like shit in the second half

I asked for the final score.

The season isn't over and people started praising Crapello....some things will never change.

Yes, we have to learn more about football.

@Snoop & Sateeh- Spot on.

 

[Azzurri7]

1- who is praising Capello?
2- Is it ok to Bash Capello 24/7 (like you do) before the season ends, and it is funny to praise him before the End of the season?
3- Hate against Capello is being discussed, and not his Coaching skills.
4- Yeah things never change for you and Capello haters, get over it, it's been six month of his departure umpkin:


got it?

Ma asde 3annak. Michael_Cutajar is praising capello men halla2 wel season isnt over yet.

 

[Azzurri7]

Yes, we have to learn more about football.

Them? Nah, sateeh has some great football vision, snoop atleast has his own opinion.

You? yes son, you need to learn some.

 

[sateeh]

The season isn't over and people started praising Crapello....some things will never change.

will you be praising him if he won the league after the end of the season?

Here is my take, on capello with madrid.

He took on a club that has so much problems its not even funny(sometimes it was, until the barca problems came in), problems continued with some players hitting out at him and so on n so forth.
But they were still in the hunt in for league all along, it could be barcelona's fault but some credit has to go to him.

Now in two successive games his team wins two games coming from behind and his subs that make the difference.
That Madrid team has a spirit again from what i've seen.

And again agreed with Snoop

 

[Snoop]

Ma asde 3annak. Michael_Cutajar is praising capello men halla2 wel season isnt over yet.

It came after my long post, that made me think it was directed to me.. next time quote

 

[Azzurri7]

will you be praising him if he won the league after the end of the season?

Here is my take, on capello with madrid.

He took on a club that has so much problems its not even funny(sometimes it was, until the barca problems came in), problems continued with some players hitting out at him and so on n so forth.
But they were still in the hunt in for league all along, it could be barcelona's fault but some credit has to go to him.

Now in two successive games his team wins two games coming from behind and his subs that make the difference.
That Madrid team has a spirit again from what i've seen.

I think fans wanted capello out at the beg of the season because he wasn't doing his job(which is leading the table)....Looking at how much madrid spent this summer it's normal to see them leading the table. Barcelona arent the same team of last year, Sevilla is another subject.

With such a team sateeh, he should be atleast qualified to the semis of CL...same story with Juventus last year. We were having one of the finest squads and look what he did, he couldn't even overtake the english tests...two times. I expected Madrid to win La Liga this season, teams dont play defensive football. Capello is good in that.

An ok job I would say, not more, because I would be praising him, and I dont think he deserves soo much praise after how many times Barcelona and Sevilla had the chance to run away with their chances.

 

[Snoop]

will you be praising him if he won the league after the end of the season?

Here is my take, on capello with madrid.

He took on a club that has so much problems its not even funny(sometimes it was, until the barca problems came in), problems continued with some players hitting out at him and so on n so forth.
But they were still in the hunt in for league all along, it could be barcelona's fault but some credit has to go to him.

Now in two successive games his team wins two games coming from behind and his subs that make the difference.
That Madrid team has a spirit again from what i've seen.

And again agreed with Snoop

We Agree most of the times, we have the same way to look to a subject, objectively (thou some might not agree) and not from one side. int:

Madrid seems improving too from the mess they are living the last years (ending empty handed all the time), even thou they lost the biggest player in their squad, Zidane.. But I can't argue on this, Because I don't follow them or their league.

 

[Ahmedios]

-About Mutu, i thought all transfers were negotiated with the coach first ?

Yes, Mutu was proposed by Moggi then Capello approved.

-Viera was a world class player and the best box to box player around at that time.And any team would've wanted him there.

You have a problem with Emerson so i won't bring that up. But i will say this, he was instrumental in both Scudettos and had man of the match games on multiple occasions. And you say about him is just a pure unfairness imo.

Why don't you like the fact that there are some people who have viewpoints differ from yours? Okay, do you want it again? Emerson should have played cricket instead of football and Vieira should have assisted him in his hard mission!

Vieira's last good season was 2 years before forsaking Arsenal, he is past his best. And even during his best, he was overrated. About Emerson, yes I have a problem with him, thanks.

This doesn't make any sense, you contradicted with your other statement, which also doesn't make any sense "when it comes to what he achieved in the domestic league, I can't say that he did a miracle, he was managing Juventus. Any good manager can lead Juventus successfully in the Serie A"

So you are saying Ancelotti is not a good coach? he can't even win the league with us? and you said it yourself that capello is a good coach umpkin:

Capello has a history behind him, while Ancelotti hadn't at that time. I mean we shouldn't have expected much of the latter. Even though, when he lost the two Scudetti of seasons 1999/2000 and 2000/2001, I was gutted, but I know that the man had a limit. He wasn't that Serie A experienced.

How do you know these things? were you there when these transfers happened? Do you have any official documents? or you are throwing this claims out of your ass? when it comes to good transfers, It was definitely the great moggi, when it comes to bad transfers then it is all evil capello's fault..

I don't think Moggi like a good puppy commanding Capello's orders, not the moggi I know..

Any coach must have a view about players his squad needs. Moggi was a strong man, I know. But he couldn't Capello to include a player in the squad. I said it before, nothing couldn't be allowed without Capello's approval.

And please try to control yourself and don't let the momentum of your love to Capello takes you that far. Did I mention that Capello was responsible of all the wrongdoings while Moggi was an angel? But Capello shared, at least, with his choices.

Even the players we got rid of, Moggi can't do this by himself. How could he take a player out of the squad and force Capello not to field him because the management all of a sudden decided to sell him? This is complete nonsense in my eyes.

Zlatan failed? that's why he was chosen the serie A best player of the year at the first season.. Mutu wasn't bad neither, we also made profit out of his transfer..

Maybe he was good at his first season, but he sucked in the second one.

I don't give a fuck of what an Arsenal fan think, what is this anyway, are you presenting their quotes as facts? is that how you argue?

Vieira and Emerson are world class Midfielders, stop fooling yourself, everyone were delighted here when they come..

You don't give a fuck, I give a fuck. Don't you like what he said just for being a gunner? You evaluate his opinion through the shirt he cheers for, brilliant!

I'm not presenting his quote as a fact, I'm presenting it because I believe in it. Did you prefer me to present his quote as if it was mine? Would you accept it by then?

Again for the second time after the billion, I said a lot about Emerson and Vieira, and if people were happy because of them joining us, does this mean that I should have been pleased myself?!

are you realizing that this line doesn't make any sense? What logic is this?

Yes, this is logic. By the way, Emerson has played the last eight years of his career under Capello's wings.

Emerson proved himself since Leverkusen days, I don't know since when you watch football, but you should check your facts before you throw these claims.. Emerson had a massive role in Roma's success, he was our Target since those days, and also Real Madrid's. So don't tell me that only Capello knows his worth, or no one was interested to sign him..

alot of members will disagree with your comment about him, like I said it earlier, Zebina's problem is in his head, he needs to control his temper, and he is doing that lately, Watch the matches again carefully, and see if he is struggling or not. Zebina is not just a good defender, he also adds his skills to offense, his is also a good dribbler..

I've watched all the Juve matches this season so far bar 2 or 3 games. And I still find Zebina clumsy, hothead also his positioning and his covering are terrible.

Here is my opinion about some players included in the Capello's victorious Roma squad. This is applied to Emerson, Zebina and Samuel.

At Roma, Capello used 3-6-1 formation, which is charactarised by having three defenders in the centre and a strong defensive supply form the midfield. It is a defensive tactics, even below average defenders would puzzle some people, as they might consider that the greatness of such a defensive performance is related to the defenders, whereas in fact it is all related to the tactic itself. Even though, Roma had a strong squad when they won the Scudetto; Candela, Cafu, Lima, Panucci and Zebina (he was in a good form). All the previously mentioned players are defenders and Samuel was just part of the whole performance.

By the way, Zebina was included in that squad, would you say that Zebina can be great once again?

below average? why is he still being used by DD, is it because he is French?

No, because he can perform in Serie B.

How do you know these were not Capello's transfers.. wasn't he the one looking for free transfers?

No, it was Moggi. But again who gave the final decision?

you can't compare Tacchinardi with Vieira or Emerson.. Sure he was loved by the fans and by me also, but he isn't any better than those, you don't have to be an expert to realize that.. I would be happier if he stayed at the bench thou, but someone claimed he was the one who refused to stay, he wanted to play regular.

If he was the one who wanted to leave, so I can't argue. But he wasn't a jack of all trades and a master of none like Vieira and wasn't waddling like Emerson. He was a pure defensive midfielder and this is the most important.

Di vaio was bad even at Lippi's time, check what he did with Valencia, and check where is he now.. he was overrated, why don't you admit it was wrong to bring him to Juve, is it because Capello wasn't the responsible?

Di Vaio wasn't overrated and he could have been much better if he wasn't placed out of position.

Yeah yeah.. He was winning games anyway, Boring and defensive football wins that's the sad truth. Sure I would like to see atacking football, but see how the offensive teams are losing these days, should I give you examples? I am not Capello's tactics' fan, ofcourse I want us to become like Manchester united at 2000, like the first era of Real Madrid, Like 90's Milan etc.. But isn't it in our blood to play defensive and boring football for the last decades?

btw weren't you the one once said you are a fan of Catenaccio?

Yes, I'm a Catenaccio fan. But what is this has to do with what you're saying?

There is a big difference between the Catenaccio and sterile defensive tactics. Catenaccio means defending with highly organised defence adding to that quick counter attacks. And I don't consider this boring by the way, as I said before that the priority in my philosophy about football is to defend and then comes the attacking. But Capello's sterile tactic isn't related to what I said in fact. The team was defending horribly, but thanks to the experience of the back line and Buffon who lifted us. The team was lacking pace and creativity, what is more.

And still you're claiming somethings that aren't related to the reality by any mean. Who told you that I'm a fan of the football played by Manure it 2000 or Real Madrid or Milan during the 90's? And the most important who told you that I consider the defending football a boring football? Capello's football isn't Catenaccio. And I don't like to see Juventus play someday this pure attacking football. We've a complete different character.

Let's Judge Ancellotti's amazing achievements in Europe when he was with Juve. uh-oh? no answer I guess..

Ancelotti, at that time, wasn't Lippi nor Capello. And I said there is a difference between the domestic competition and Europe. Ancelotti could have succeeded in Italy but Capello because he was Capello was expected to perform better in Europe.

what Real Madrid won the last two years before Capello's arrival? Thank you

Anyways, I hope he'll keep the trend alive.

All these Capello hating non-sense came from here, deny it as much as you want, No one is mentioning Ancelotti name, no one hates him. yeah because he did opposite what Capello did with us, he is the responsible of the club's success..

Like I said it before, this Capello hating is no sense, you didn't give me any logical reason to hate a man with all passsion, you only discussed his coaching quality, make him the worst coach on planet, that is still is not enough to hate him and continue with the hate 6 months after his arrival, which will probably go on some years as well

One last thing, did you forget that he was one of the traitors who escaped the ship once they felt it was on verge of sinking? Maybe you don't like that traitors thing, and he was free to determine his next destination, I can't say he shouldn't ditch us, he is free. But don't ask me not to hate him. I'm not a Capello fan, I'm a Juve fan.

I rest my case. int:

 

[Marc]

You? yes son, you need to learn some.

It is you who doesn´t have any opinion nor football knowledge, you are like a 12 year old brainwashed schoolboy with a crush on Del Piero. You calling me son? :rofl2: First you have to get rid of your dad who tells you what to write on this forum.

 

[Oggy]

IMO I think the biggest Real Madrid problem is constantly changeing managers. Manager need at least one season to make the team especially if the team is in chaos (like Madrid) and so far Capello did the best job for Real in last few years. I'm not sure bit I think if Capello stays at real for another season and get rid of the players doesn't want in the club and sign those he want than atmosphere in dressing room will improve (the weakest Madrid point) and results too. But on the other hand when you look how Capello is stubborn and will sick to the same solutions even if they are bad he has no chance

But so far he is doing good job for Real, they are fighting for the title, something they didn't done for a long time.