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JuveJay

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The word Suarez used to Evra was 'negrito', according to French sources. Some have said that this isn't a racist term on its own, it just means 'negro' and can be used in a sense of banter, if you are willing, for South Americans who are dark skinned and perhaps indigenous. An example of Javier Hernandez calling Omar Esparza (his team mate) 'negrito' during an interview has been cited.

Why he is calling Evra a negro remains to me seen. I'm sure Evra is quite aware he is black. Why say it other than to offend?
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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In Libya and especially in the South where we have a big percentage that are black, people call black people "3abed" in Arabic which literally translates into slave. Slavery was around in Libya only 100 years ago, so thats probably the reason people still use that word. The word kinda lost its meaning when said in Libyan slang and is rarely used to racially insult black people, its so common in Southern Libya that even black people don't really take much offense from the word anymore.

Does that make the word ok? Absolutely not, its a terrible phenomenon and it should be eradicated from the language, whether it is intended to insult or degrade black people or not is absolutely irrelevant. The world should never be used.

Whatever Suarez says, and whether or not the word is accepted in South America is irrelevant. He should be punished.
 

Byrone

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In Libya and especially in the South where we have a big percentage that are black, people call black people "3abed" in Arabic which literally translates into slave. Slavery was around in Libya only 100 years ago, so thats probably the reason people still use that word. The word kinda lost its meaning when said in Libyan slang and is rarely used to racially insult black people, its so common in Southern Libya that even black people don't really take much offense from the word anymore.

Does that make the word ok? Absolutely not, its a terrible phenomenon and it should be eradicated from the language, whether it is intended to insult or degrade black people or not is absolutely irrelevant. The world should never be used.

Whatever Suarez says, and whether or not the word is accepted in South America is irrelevant. He should be punished.
I can already see, young, impressionable english kids with bad teeth, calling black people negrito because of his actions. He should use his brains, he knows he has a huge influence on kids that admire him.
 

Red

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In Libya and especially in the South where we have a big percentage that are black, people call black people "3abed" in Arabic which literally translates into slave. Slavery was around in Libya only 100 years ago, so thats probably the reason people still use that word. The word kinda lost its meaning when said in Libyan slang and is rarely used to racially insult black people, its so common in Southern Libya that even black people don't really take much offense from the word anymore.

Does that make the word ok? Absolutely not, its a terrible phenomenon and it should be eradicated from the language, whether it is intended to insult or degrade black people or not is absolutely irrelevant. The world should never be used.

Whatever Suarez says, and whether or not the word is accepted in South America is irrelevant. He should be punished.
He should be punished.

However, the degree of punishment ought to depend on whether he was really meaning to be offensive.

People relatively new to different cultures may need to have certain allowances made.
 

Red

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Meh.

Teams show them too much respect, so they can easily get the ball to Bale and Lennon.

If a team would actually press a bit and put some pressure on Modric and Parker (who is enormously overrated by the English) to make them work to make passes and dictate the game, it would make things more interesting.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Lol, when we call someone negro it is with the intention to offend, wether subtle or not.
Use it in your country then, but don't go using the same word when you go to other countries and could potentially seriously offend people.

He should be punished.

However, the degree of punishment ought to depend on whether he was really meaning to be offensive.

People relatively new to different cultures may need to have certain allowances made.
I agree. Though he's been in England for almost a year now, he should have a better understanding of the culture there.
 
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