[ENG] Premiership 2009/2010 (25 Viewers)

[Fred]

Lampard actually is the kind of English player i love,brilliant at club level,top notch in europe,all round top drawer player............


incapable of producing it at national level

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[Bozi]

Alot of them players about, especially for the England national side.

i know...it's a shame,a real shame

This is all you really care about

:hellyes:

 

[Red]

No matter how you spin it, no matter how many "lucky" deflections, how many penalties, Lampard is one impressive player and a model professional.

He has become a much more complete player in the last couple of years, which makes his goalscoring more impressive, as he still contributes in other ways too.

Removing penalties takes his goals down to being very good, rather than exceptional.

Lampard actually is the kind of English player i love,brilliant at club level,top notch in europe,all round top drawer player............


incapable of producing it at national level

 

[Fred]

He has become a much more complete player in the last couple of years, which makes his goalscoring more impressive, as he still contributes in other ways too.

Removing penalties takes his goals down to being very good, rather than exceptional.

There are loads of attacking midfielders that take penalties, Kaka being one of them back when he was at Milan, and while the latters scoring has been extremely impressive himself, he hasn't reached the heights Lampard has(goal scoring wise).

For a midfielder to pass the 20 league goals milestone is a big big achievement, penalties or not.

 

[Red]

Whatever position a player plays, as soon as I hear a goal tally, I want to know how many are penalties, because penalties can cover up cracks and poor goalscoring form (see Del Piero).

 

[Fred]

How many penalties has he scored in the league this season anyway?

 

[Nicholas]

He still has to score a penalty so whats the problem?

 

[Red]

How many penalties has he scored in the league this season anyway?

Lampard?

Dunno.

6 or so would be my guess.

 

[Red]

He still has to score a penalty so whats the problem?

Heaps of other people could do it.

It's not exactly as tough a skill as scoring 12+ goals from open play from midfield per season.

 

[Fred]

Lampard?

Dunno.

6 or so would be my guess.

That would leave him with 15 league goals without penalties, that would still be pretty damn impressive for a midfielder, no?

 

[Fred]

Heaps of other people could do it.

It's not exactly as tough a skill as scoring 12+ goals from open play from midfield per season.

Bring me an attacking mid who scores as much as Lampard does.

 

[Red]

Any midfielder who consistently scores more than 12 or so goals from open play every season is a great asset.


Where have you got the idea I don't rate Lampard or that I am criticising him?

I may talk down his goal scoring a little, but his all round contribution is fantastic.

 

[Salvatore]

No yellow or red cards for Lampard this season, which I'm impressed with.

 

[Nicholas]

Thats been one of Liverpools problem this season, Gerrard not bagging his mandotary 15 goals per season in the league and countless others in Europe.

 

[JuveJay]

Half and the other half are deflections. Still it's pretty fucking awesome.

I've said this before, although I have to admit the old cliché 'if you don't shoot you don't score'.

The reason why Lampard doesn't do the same for England is that he doesn't play the same role, and has inferior players behind him.

 

[Henry]

Lampard's an excellent player. Less talent than Gerrard, but he's smart, and has improved remarkably in the last 5 years, and is one of the most consistently excellent players in the world

 

[The Curr]

He's more effective than Stevie G IMO.

 

[Enron]

Two different teams. Stevie has much less talent at Liverpool.

Lampard is surrounded by world class talent.

 

[Fred]

Gerrard is a better player than Lampard, this season might have somewhat tainted peoples views on Gerrard, but all in all he is a more influential and better all round player than Lamps.

 

[Ken]

Two different teams. Stevie has much less talent at Liverpool.

Lampard is surrounded by world class talent.

I'd have Gerrard over Lampard.