[ENG] Premiership 2009/2010 (22 Viewers)

[Fred]

Plus Scotland sucks, so it was a non brainer really

 

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[king Ale]

As if he ever stood any chances to play for Brazil.

The point here is to choose a country when 2 countries want you to play for them. Lots of players who could have played for Switzerland, Australia, Austria, even Germany, chose Croatia over them.
In USA's case though....

Edit: Actually, that Scottish dude whose leg was broken on Wednesday was the only one who chose USA over another country. But he's just one in a dozen or more.

That's because the other choice was Scotland

 

[Fred]

Players like Eduardo spoil international football for me.

I want international games to be about the best players and coaches a country can produce and I don't like that foreign coaches are allowed and I don't like players be eligible for a nation just because some country gave them citizenship due to residency, when they have no historical attachment to that nation at all.

 

[king Ale]

Red; So are you for Amauri playing for the Azzurri or not?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

10 bucks says he gives a vague, neutral answer

 

[Red]

Red; So are you for Amauri playing for the Azzurri or not?

Against it.

If he was born in Brazil to Brazilian parents and grew up in Brazil, which I believe he was, he should only be eligible to play for Brazil.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Crap.

 

[Fred]

What if someone is born to Italian parents but lived in Brazil all his life?

Does that make him Brazilian just because his parents got a job in another country?

 

[Bjerknes]

We play England, Spain, France, Italy, you play those countries where earthquake strikes every week. When we make a competition our goal is to make a semifinal at least. Your goal is not to end with 3 defeats in the group stages.
Fuck it, I don't even want to play in a competition if my only goal there is not to be humiliated.

What a joke.

Actually, our minimum goal is getting to the group stages. Anything less would be a failure as it should.

 

[Alen]

Actually, our minimum goal is getting to the group stages.

Well, yeah, that's what I said. Your minimum goal is to make through the local qualifiers and get to the group stages. Your maximum goal is not to be humiliated in the group stages.

 

[Alen]

What if someone is born to Italian parents but lived in Brazil all his life?

Does that make him Brazilian just because his parents got a job in another country?

What's the language he speaks? In what language does he think?

Since he lived in Brazil all his life then i'd say it's Portuguese.
Where was he educated, where does he work?

Isn't it racist if you don't let him be Brazilian just because his parents were Italian?

 

[Fred]

Thats unfair and not true Alen.

I think it would be a massive underachievment for the US if they dont get past the group stages. I would think that their goal is to reach the second round at the very least.

 

[Red]

What if someone is born to Italian parents but lived in Brazil all his life?

Does that make him Brazilian just because his parents got a job in another country?

I don't mind a player choosing based on birth place or parentage.

I don't like players choosing based on the nationality of grandparents or based on getting citizenship just because they have lived a few years of their adult life somewhere.

 

[Fred]

What's the language he speaks? In what language does he think?

Since he lived in Brazil all his life then i'd say it's Portuguese.
Where was he educated, where does he work?

Isn't it racist if you don't let him be Brazilian just because his parents were Italian?

What if he spoke Italian?


I speak Arabic at home, but i was born and raised in Scotland(7 and a half years). Am I Scottish?

 

[Alen]

Thats unfair and not true Alen.

I think it would be a massive underachievment for the US if they dont get past the group stages. I would think that their goal is to reach the second round at the very least.

I'm just messing with Andy. But the boy learned to control himself.

I've been one of the loudest US football supporters here (from the non-Americans), but I know Andy's soft spots and I like to play with it.
Underrating US football mixed with forza Tottenham was a winning combination.

 

[Fred]

I don't mind a player choosing based on birth place or parentage.

I don't like players choosing based on the nationality of grandparents or based on getting citizenship just because they have lived a few years of their adult life somewhere.

So what do you think about someone like Patrick Vieira?

 

[Fred]

I'm just messing with Andy. But the boy learned to control himself.

I've been one of the loudest US football supporters here (from the non-Americans), but I know Andy's soft spots and I like to play with it.
Underrating US football mixed with forza Tottenham was a winning combination.

Only because he probably suspected you were trying to wind him up. Wait until one of the Americans comes out and supports the Azurri, then we'll see just how much he's learned to control himself

 

[Alen]

What if he spoke Italian?


I speak Arabic at home, but i was born and raised in Scotland(7 and a half years). Am I Scottish?

No you're not.
If he speaks Italian, if he feels Italian, then he's Italian. No-one can take the right how to feel from you. Of course, if you don't have a passport than officially you're not Italian, but to me you are what you feel that you are.

Your example was bad though. You made it look as if you're not letting that guy be a Brazilian.

 

[Red]

So what do you think about someone like Patrick Vieira?

Were his parents French and at what age did he move to France?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No you're not.
If he speaks Italian, if he feels Italian, then he's Italian. No-one can take the right how to feel from you. Of course, if you don't have a passport than officially you're not Italian, but to me you are what you feel that you are.

Your example was bad though. You made it look as if you're not letting that guy be a Brazilian.

That, I agree with.