[ENG] Premiership 2009/2010 (17 Viewers)

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Winning is a habit. I just think of Juve and inter Pre-calciopoli. It was almost a monopoly for Juve with complete domination, receiving competition from other teams once in a while. inter on the other hand hadn't won a title since 1989(?) and had the world of stars over the years. it's just the longer they went without winning the harder it became. Now it's the other way around and i would like if that trend is ended before it gets out of hand. Which is also why I would prefer if Milan won the Scudetto over them (although I really doubt it).
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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He won the European Cup with PSV in 1988 and the FA Cup with Chelsea.

Chelsea also probably would have won the league if he'd been in charge the whole season with them. Scolari left him with too big a gap to make up.
 

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He won the European Cup with PSV in 1988 and the FA Cup with Chelsea.

Chelsea also probably would have won the league if he'd been in charge the whole season with them. Scolari left him with too big a gap to make up.
I thought he just won the league with PSV, my bad.

Well then this is a horse of a different story. Guss has a 1988 Treb at PSV and a 2009 FA Cup victory with Chelsea (best roster in the EPL). Bouy for Guus. Rafa's got more.

I'd still rather have a Shankly type thats going to be around longer than the next European Cup. Instead of a mercenary coach that might win a trophy.

Maybe he'd be gangbusters at Juventus, maybe he wouldn't. I honestly don't think there's anyone who can save my team and I think that is why Rafa still has the job.
 

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Martin O'Neill would be the long term man for Liverpool, I think.

I wouldn't really go in for comparing Hiddink to Benitez. In fact, it's very tough to compare Hiddink to anyone, due to his choosing, for whatever reason, to focus on international teams.

What I would say about Hiddink is that he seems to have the knack of getting the best out of players. He hasn't won much because he has spent much of the last decade getting the most out of players who aren't that good.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Martin O'Neill would be the long term man for Liverpool, I think.

I wouldn't really go in for comparing Hiddink to Benitez. In fact, it's very tough to compare Hiddink to anyone, due to his choosing, for whatever reason, to focus on international teams.

What I would say about Hiddink is that he seems to have the knack of getting the best out of players. He hasn't won much because he has spent much of the last decade getting the most out of players who aren't that good.
Looking at our squad, and the fact that many players are performing below their usual standard, I think Guus would be great here. If all folks here are clicking then we'd have a much better chance at grinding out results. Your favorite.
 

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And that is why I think Juve should do all they can to get him.

Even if he costs a heap, it's better to have a top coach and maybe have to have 5m less a year on the transfer budget.

Ferrara, unfortunately, shows what can happen when the opposite is done with a cheap coach and expensive players.
 

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Martin O'Neill would be the long term man for Liverpool, I think.

I wouldn't really go in for comparing Hiddink to Benitez. In fact, it's very tough to compare Hiddink to anyone, due to his choosing, for whatever reason, to focus on international teams.

What I would say about Hiddink is that he seems to have the knack of getting the best out of players. He hasn't won much because he has spent much of the last decade getting the most out of players who aren't that good.
I was just showing that Rafa has won more and I think he's a shit manager (at least today, ask me next season).

Martin O'Neill is wonderfull little cunt of a manager. I hate him, but I'd love him at Liverpool.
 

Bjerknes

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If players like Diego, Melo, Sissoko, Amauri, and Canna were clicking on all cylinders, I think we would be able to challenge on all fronts. As long as he has his tactics down, which he usually does (apart from his recent matches with Russia).
 

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Aaron, Benitez is (was) a very good coach who seems to have (temporarily) lost the plot. Whether he will re-find his touch at Liverpool or if he needs a move is open to debate.

I hate O'Neill. Was magic when Aberdeen used to beat his Celtic team.
 

Bjerknes

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Benitez will find his feet somewhere else. He's not as poor as folks here make him out to be, for the most part. Just like at our club, he hasn't used his money wisely in general.

Aquilani was a laugh today in the defensive areas of the game. You'd think an Italian CM would be far better. Guess not.
 

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Looking at our squad, and the fact that many players are performing below their usual standard, I think Guus would be great here. If all folks here are clicking then we'd have a much better chance at grinding out results. Your favorite.
I also think you guys have mercato'ed yourselves out of the ability to move between more than two tactical formations. There's really no natural width in the squad. So tinkering is limited, and that's got to hurt a manager. Especially when teams are just sitting back.

I just wouldn't want Hiddink at Liverpool, unless he could commit 5-7 years:

1) Success is great, but only if it has a future. I'm sure Ipswich Town still remembers its 62' Championship, but I'm sure they wish they were still in the EPL.
2) Our owners have shown no interest in doing what's right for the the club, for Liverpool to progress they need to GTFO.
 

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Aaron, Benitez is (was) a very good coach who seems to have (temporarily) lost the plot. Whether he will re-find his touch at Liverpool or if he needs a move is open to debate.

I hate O'Neill. Was magic when Aberdeen used to beat his Celtic team.
I know Rafa is a good manager, but right now, at this moment. He's crap.

Subbing Skrtel in for Degen. Really man, you're going to lie down for Reading, 21st in the Championship Reading?

I wish he'd act like he gave a shit. And motivated the team to play hard. Losing sucks but at least make them earn it. He looks beaten on the sidelines. And that's what gets me the most.
 

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Aquilani was a laugh today in the defensive areas of the game. You'd think an Italian CM would be far better. Guess not.
Alberto made some excellent passes today though. Tackln's not his game apparently, but if he can thread the needle to players not named Ryan Babel or David N'Gog I think that can be forgiven.
 

Bjerknes

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Pool has Spurs and Arsenal coming up. Not going to be easy for them at all. If Benitez can somehow manage to get a few wins against those folks despite Torres being out, he really is a class manager.
 

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