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Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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It isn't that dumb. I just don't like Liverpool.

But not all of us can like both Liverpool and Juventus. You're special.
It's not that disliking liverpool is dumb, that's your choice, but calling a team lucky when they consistently force late winners is stupid. And calling today's win lucky is also stupid, since Liverpool were clearly the better team and deserved to win. Of course, one can argue that every win is lucky, since at one level it is, but to characterize Liverpool's win as being lucky without acknowledging their superiority is either stupid (if you genuinely think it was all down to luck), or obnoxious if you're simply trying to be an ass
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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It's not that disliking liverpool is dumb, that's your choice, but calling a team lucky when they consistently force late winners is stupid. And calling today's win lucky is also stupid, since Liverpool were clearly the better team and deserved to win. Of course, one can argue that every win is lucky, since at one level it is, but to characterize Liverpool's win as being lucky without acknowledging their superiority is either stupid (if you genuinely think it was all down to luck), or obnoxious if you're simply trying to be an ass
For a team of Fulham's stature, they played well.

Liverpool was lucky to get the three points.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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everyone's seen how well fulham can play. they have good players. check out their results against the top 4 this season.
as for lucky, re-read my post
 

Henry

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i merely replied in the same way you replied earlier. if you want, i can construct an argument, but you clearly aren't interested in actual discussion, merely airing your annoyance and distaste at liverpool.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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yes i realise, i want them to win it!! & what so wrong about suporting both? heysel?! gimmie a break
I guess if one had lived through that match, living through the actual moments, seen it happening, living through the days and weeks after, learning about the sickening behaviour shown by many fans of Liverpool, seen the funerals of Juventus fans and the tears of the families and fans they left behind, then one might find the idea of supporting both teams faintly revolting.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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I guess if one had lived through that match, living through the actual moments, seen it happening, living through the days and weeks after, learning about the sickening behaviour shown by many fans of Liverpool, seen the funerals of Juventus fans and the tears of the families and fans they left behind, then one might find the idea of supporting both teams faintly revolting.
of course, that's understandable, but on the other hand it's best for both sets of supporters to try and move on without animosity. the tragedy definitely should not be forgotten of course, but one should remember that ever team has it's despicable supporters, and the vast majority of Liverpool fans despise the people that behaved so badly during that tragedy. for me, I started supporting both clubs without knowing their full history, and i tend to be pretty stubborn/loyal, so i wasn't going to start disliking either one of my teams because of that horrific shared event. i just hope that the mutual animosity eventually becomes replaced by respect and friendship between the two clubs. certainly the process has been started
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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i merely replied in the same way you replied earlier. if you want, i can construct an argument, but you clearly aren't interested in actual discussion, merely airing your annoyance and distaste at liverpool.
Liverpool just wasn't that good. If they were, they would have won 4-0.

So again, soap it. It's not like Liverpool will win the league anyway.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I guess if one had lived through that match, living through the actual moments, seen it happening, living through the days and weeks after, learning about the sickening behaviour shown by many fans of Liverpool, seen the funerals of Juventus fans and the tears of the families and fans they left behind, then one might find the idea of supporting both teams faintly revolting.
Now that is a good post from you.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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Liverpool just wasn't that good. If they were, they would have won 4-0.

So again, soap it. It's not like Liverpool will win the league anyway.
that's not my point, I didn't say Liverpool deserved to win 4-0, I said that with less luck Fulham could have lost 4-0. I don't expect liverpool to win the league, so again, if you're trying to piss me off, grow up
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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that's not my point, I didn't say Liverpool deserved to win 4-0, I said that with less luck Fulham could have lost 4-0. I don't expect liverpool to win the league, so again, if you're trying to piss me off, grow up
Liverpool just wasn't that good. Fulham did enough to secure the draw but the referee thought 4 minutes of time was good enough. Just face it, I wasn't impressed with your team.

Not like I ever am, to be honest. Except for 2005 that is.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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Liverpool just wasn't that good. Fulham did enough to secure the draw but the referee thought 4 minutes of time was good enough. Just face it, I wasn't impressed with your team.

Not like I ever am, to be honest. Except for 2005 that is.
not being impressed is fine, but one could just as easily say that Liverpool did enough to win, and considering the actual game, that's more accurate than saying Fulham did enough to draw, when they would have been far luckier to draw than Liverpool were to win
 
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