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[Azzurri7]

Mourinho was all about protecting the locker room and his staff. Now he all out attacks someone who just did her job and brings a lot of focus on Chelsea, instead of diverting it. To make matters worse he also just lost 3-0 to City and now he says it was a 'fake' result. WTF?

He does that 90% of the time, he doesn't admit that his opponent(s) were superior to him when he's outplayed, but also this mentality has played major role in his achievements I'd say. The guy plays mental football perfectly.

I'd say his biggest and only mistake was going nuts on Carneiro.

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Imo kun still has to prove himself in cl. I wanna see him carrying shitty in atleast a semi.

I agree, but City's problem in CL is mental, except for Silva and Aguero they've choked terribly, even Yaya Toure has went on sleep mode in CL for the past 3 seasons.

Not sure, but there are people who would pick him over Messi, which is even funnier.

They have similar style but different positions, Messi is obviously better overall but Aguero in Barcelona or Real Madrid would score 30+ goals a season.

 

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[blondu]

The only player real needs is lewa instead of benz, not aguero. Barca are settled. But i do not see a move in the next year for aguero either. The sheiks are paying well..

 

[Seven]

He does that 90% of the time, he doesn't admit that his opponent(s) were superior to him when he's outplayed, but also this mentality has played major role in his achievements I'd say. The guy plays mental football perfectly.

I know, but the timing was poor. Everyone is now looking at Chelsea's results and questions will be asked soon. It used to be that Mourinho drew all the attention to himself to let his players focus on the game. Now people are going to start asking real questions about Chelsea's locker room and the relationship between members of the staff and Mourinho.

He fucked up big time.

 

[Fred]

There used to be a goal for their behaviour though.

Pep played without a striker to confuse the opposition. Now he's just randomly playing players out of position or starting with three defenders against the best forward line in history.

Mourinho was all about protecting the locker room and his staff. Now he all out attacks someone who just did her job and brings a lot of focus on Chelsea, instead of diverting it. To make matters worse he also just lost 3-0 to City and now he says it was a 'fake' result. WTF?

I still think Mourinho says these outrageous things to protect his team and make himself the focus of the media and fans, I'm sure he ripped into his team in private, he's a very intelligent manager, he knows that they thoroughly deserved the heavy defeat yesterday and I'd bet on anything he's said as much to his players.

As for Pep, I agree; he's trying too much to do tactical surprises these days, it worked for him when he played without a striker, and he got a lot of praise for it, that's what I meant by him buying too much into his own hype. He is a tactically astute manager, but at some point there needs to be a bit more stability in the way he sets his teams up. There's no use in playing Alaba 3-4 different positions a season, and doing the same with Lahm as well. It was also a terrible decision to try and outplay Barca at their own game with all the absences he had.

 

[Seven]

I still think Mourinho says these outrageous things to protect his team and make himself the focus of the media and fans, I'm sure he ripped into his team in private, he's a very intelligent manager, he knows that they thoroughly deserved the heavy defeat yesterday and I'd bet on anything he's said as much to his players.

I know. And for a while that was a highly successful strategy. But one part of it was that Mourinho never attacked players/staff. He just did the opposite with Carneiro. The only time I remember him truly berating a player was when Hazard screwed up against Atletico. But you know, it's Hazard, it doesn't really matter what you say to that guy.

 

[Toro_Merda]

But wasn't it gold that his new med staff were so clueless in that situation with the double injury in the first half, that they had to call on City's med team for help, while the cunt had Carneiro and the other guy sidelined for doing their job?

 

[Seven]

Also, another thing that is starting to come off as really petty is saying "I don't want to talk about it" when he's asked about obvious good calls made by referees. Look at Courtois' red card and the penalty last week and Mourinho's reaction to it. If you come out and say you think it was a bad call (even if it wasn't), that makes you annoying. Mourinho on the other hand basically admitted that it was the right call, but couldn't hide his disgust for some reason.

As for yesterday, @Toro_Merda, I'm sure Mourinho knows Carneiro is good at her job. But I also think the story about her and her exbf does not sound that farfetched. She's a goodlooking female doctor in a lockerroom with professional athletes. I'm sure she likes the attention. And I think Mourinho just wanted to bully her for it.

 

[Fred]

I know. And for a while that was a highly successful strategy. But one part of it was that Mourinho never attacked players/staff. He just did the opposite with Carneiro. The only time I remember him truly berating a player was when Hazard screwed up against Atletico. But you know, it's Hazard, it doesn't really matter what you say to that guy.

I guess the old Mourinho was not outrageous enough anymore, he's had to up the level a bit to remain outrageous and interesting. He has started to create rifts with his staff to be honest, look at the way he left Real. Pepe, S.Ramos, Casillas all were attacked in public by Mourinho while he was manager of Real Madrid.

 

[Seven]

I guess the old Mourinho was not outrageous enough anymore, he's had to up the level a bit to remain outrageous and interesting. He has started to create rifts with his staff to be honest, look at the way he left Real. Pepe, S.Ramos, Casillas all were attacked in public by Mourinho while he was manager of Real Madrid.

Yeah, I think he's been declining for a while probably. And he might have won the Premier League last year, but his game plan wasn't exactly out of this world: defend and give the ball to Hazard. That's basically the equivalent of coaching Messi these days, but with more fear.

I think he used to be a brilliant coach, but somewhere along the way things got a bit fuzzy. With his coaching style the descent into madness is bound to happen anyway.

 

[JCK]

Is there anyone who still believes that Tevez was/is better than Aguero?

Not anymore now that Tevez is no longer a Juve player.

 

[JuveJay]

So far he hasn't done more than three seasons anywhere, but you'd think that would change at Chelsea. He and Abramovich have already had their lovers tiff.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Not anymore now that Tevez is no longer a Juve player.

It was only Abel.

 

[Seven]

So far he hasn't done more than three seasons anywhere, but you'd think that would change at Chelsea. He and Abramovich have already had their lovers tiff.

Roman doesn't strike me as the forgiving kind though.

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Maybe last season I'd say on par, but Aguero is far away the better striker, the guy is unmatchable to any striker IMO, I would say Suarez is 2nd best to him.

Except of course their career statistics are almost the same. I too consider Aguero to be the better striker, but the difference is marginal at best.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Aguero is just a beast, I do think he is better than Carlos as a player, but I find that Carlitos suited our style of play much more than Aguero would. Both amazing strikers, and I am genuinely jealous of City whenever I see Silva and Aguero destroy defences. Two of my favourite non-Juve players.

 

[Fred]

Ozil yesterday lost the ball once, and had 98% passing accuracy, creating 5 chances in the process and having one assist. Insane numbers, I feel he's going to explode this season.

Too bad he has to play with a mediocre striker like Giroud, who despite having the ability to score some nice goals sometimes, is in general quite mediocre and slow.

 

[Seven]

Ozil yesterday lost the ball once, and had 98% passing accuracy, creating 5 chances in the process and having one assist. Insane numbers, I feel he's going to explode this season.

Too bad he has to play with a mediocre striker like Giroud, who despite having the ability to score some nice goals sometimes, is in general quite mediocre and slow.

Good for you, really!

So who's winning this, City or Chelsea?

 

[Fred]

Good for you, really!

So who's winning this, City or Chelsea?

City.

We don't have a chance without a proper striker. We also have to be extremely lucky with injuries because we have poor depth in most areas of the pitch. I still think we'll finish ahead of United though.

 

[Seven]

United are an awful team with an awful coach. I can't see anything good happening. That being said, they've won twice (albeit very luckily).

 

[Fred]

United are an awful team with an awful coach. I can't see anything good happening. That being said, they've won twice (albeit very luckily).

Ya, Van Gaal is similar to Pep in that they both try to shoehorn players into positions they're uncomfortable in, to fit a certain tactical setup. Why he insists on playing his most creative player Mata on the wing, and plays one of his quickest dribblers Depay in the #10 role I will never understand.

They will drop points sooner or later, I'm just not convinced they are that good despite the money they spent and the quality of players they brought in.

 

[JuveJay]

Aguero is just a beast, I do think he is better than Carlos as a player, but I find that Carlitos suited our style of play much more than Aguero would. Both amazing strikers, and I am genuinely jealous of City whenever I see Silva and Aguero destroy defences. Two of my favourite non-Juve players.

Agüero is just money, as long as he is fit. It's a shame we weren't at our current standing when we made that early running for him, he was just waiting around for a better offer. You pay €38m for that kind of player because he is absolutely worth it, even San Beppe didn't fuck about making a big offer for him. Now a young Agüero gets snapped up by some money team before they can barely walk and shipped off to Vitesse fucking Arnhem.

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Ya, Van Gaal is similar to Pep in that they both try to shoehorn players into positions they're uncomfortable in, to fit a certain tactical setup. Why he insists on playing his most creative player Mata on the wing, and plays one of his quickest dribblers Depay in the #10 role I will never understand.

They will drop points sooner or later, I'm just not convinced they are that good despite the money they spent and the quality of players they brought in.

Van Gaal will get this to work to a degree because he is working with a lot of young players at United, or those not used to the big stage. With a team like Chelsea's he would have been told where to go already.