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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Both should have been out :agree: Matic's reaction was just laughable :D
To be honest it was understandable, the guy could have broken his leg, and there clearly was some malice there.

Mourinho is a joke though, whining about refs, they were hard done by today , but they too like everyone else have been on the receiving end of favourable decisions as well.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Chelsea were clearly robbed today, two missed penalties and a harsh RC on Matic when he was hit by a very dangerous tackle. Mou is gonna have a field day with the press.
I don't think Matic's red was harsh, you get a red these days when you raise your hands like that, but his reaction was understandable because of the tackle. More evidence of garbage refereeing.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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To be honest it was understandable, the guy could have broken his leg, and there clearly was some malice there.

Mourinho is a joke though, whining about refs, they were hard done by today , but they too like everyone else have been on the receiving end of favourable decisions as well.
:agree:

Mourinho is justified today in complaining. But can you think of a draw, or a loss of Chelsea's in the past 2 years where he hasn't whined and pointed the finger directly at the referee... I can't think of a single instance where he gave credit to the other team just playing better and deserving victory.

It makes me sick listening to him go on ad nauseam about how there's a campaign against Chelsea.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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:agree:

Mourinho is justified today in complaining. But can you think of a draw, or a loss of Chelsea's in the past 2 years where he hasn't whined and pointed the finger directly at the referee... I can't think of a single instance where he gave credit to the other team just playing better and deserving victory.

It makes me sick listening to him go on ad nauseam about how there's a campaign against Chelsea.
Yup, did you see him yesterday "minute 30, minute 33, minute 43, and minute 69" he's a joke and a terrible loser. I wish he ends up with nothing ala the past two seasons.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Yup, did you see him yesterday "minute 30, minute 33, minute 43, and minute 69" he's a joke and a terrible loser. I wish he ends up with nothing ala the past two seasons.
Yeah. Yesterday was ridiculous. His players should be embarrassed. That he keeps prefacing these outbursts with things like "I can't say more or I'll be punished" or "if I refer to the incidents they punish me" and other such nonsense is really cringeworthy.

Every coach complains about referees on occasion, but I can't think of another that literally has never admitted that the other team was the better team on the day. I literally cannot recall Mourinho ever not blaming referees or incidents or conspiracy for a negative result.

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This is one of his best yet:


Eden Hazard has asked Jose Mourinho to help develop special shin pads that would also protect his calves, the Chelsea manager has said.

Mourinho has repeatedly spoken out about the number of fouls committed against Hazard, and at the turn of the year suggested the Belgium international could leave the Premier League if he continues to be targeted.

The Chelsea boss had more recently complained that Hazard had been fouled nine times during the 1-1 Champions League draw at Paris Saint-Germain this week but said opponents were not being punished because the winger was not the type of player who "dives, stays on the floor, rolls in the grass, screams."

Speaking prior to Saturday's game against Burnley, Mourinho said Hazard had requested his assistance in developing shin pads that would offer greater protection.

"Eden told me to speak with my friends who make the carbon shin pads," he told his prematch news conference. "I am not joking. He told me to speak with them because I am friends with the guy, to try to make it also for the back [of his calves]. Like a horse, when the horses do the jumping -- in front and behind. Because now he gets [kicked] behind.

"I know [Hazard is the most fouled player], but he is not the player that as a consequence of that creates more cards for the opponent.

"Normally, you get 100 fouls and the opponents will get a certain percentage of yellow cards, so if he is the most fouled player, he should be the player that creates more cards for the opponent but he isn't.


Jose Mourinho has urged officials to offer more protection to Eden Hazard.
"I know who is, but I don't say names because maybe the ones are the ones that want that and Eden doesn't want that. He wants to play. He doesn't want people to get cards and people to get a red card.

"I'm proud of him for being honest on the pitch and I leave it with the authorities to do something about the rest."

Mourinho said officials should do more to recognise "tactical fouls" -- in which the intent is to stop the opponents' attack -- but said Hazard was also a victim of more dangerous challenges.

"Referees have to understand that sometimes little fouls are big fouls in the context of the game," he said. "A player that is a specialist in stopping counter-attacks. The team loses the ball, he makes the foul. It is a small foul, but it stops the counter-attack. And I think Eden is punished in both ways.

"If you see the game in Paris, he had nine fouls, but three of them were very bad fouls. Very dangerous fouls and nothing."
This is so rich, the guy who basically told his last team to go out on the pitch and spend all game attempting to cripple Messi, now wants Hazard to receive special protection from the refs. :lol:
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I refuse to believe that he actually believes the BS he's spouting, he's too smart for that. He's actually deliberately trying to create this image of his team being victims IMO, the idea is that refs would start subconsciously giving him 50-50's so as to avoid his scrutiny. So far it doesn't seem to be working for him, purple face used to do the same thing but with a lot more subtlety about it, he never made silly claims about conspiracies and shit.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Everything Mourinho says is for a reason. It may or may not work but I can assure you it is calculated and it is designed to accomplish something.
 

Nejc

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May 13, 2006
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Well majority of people are already talking about his "bullshit" and not about the draw at home vs a team headed towards relegation.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I refuse to believe that he actually believes the BS he's spouting, he's too smart for that. He's actually deliberately trying to create this image of his team being victims IMO, the idea is that refs would start subconsciously giving him 50-50's so as to avoid his scrutiny. So far it doesn't seem to be working for him, purple face used to do the same thing but with a lot more subtlety about it, he never made silly claims about conspiracies and $#@!.
Everything Mourinho says is for a reason. It may or may not work but I can assure you it is calculated and it is designed to accomplish something.
I agree with this. He's a smart man, he's doing this to accomplish something.

However, it's entirely embarrassing. I would hate being a fan of a team with a manager like that. Garcia at Roma is following in much the same mold, and it worked perhaps to some extent for Roma, with them being given a large number of dubious decisions since.

What I also don't doubt is that Mourinho buys into his own nonsense to some degree at this point. You don't spout such nonsense for years and years, in basically every interview you give, without it affecting you.

He creates his siege mentality, and it works for a couple years, but players get burnt out by it, and when things go wrong in such settings, they really go wrong, catastrophic.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I refuse to believe that he actually believes the BS he's spouting, he's too smart for that. He's actually deliberately trying to create this image of his team being victims IMO, the idea is that refs would start subconsciously giving him 50-50's so as to avoid his scrutiny. So far it doesn't seem to be working for him, purple face used to do the same thing but with a lot more subtlety about it, he never made silly claims about conspiracies and shit.
Yesterday's game was pretty disgraceful. Sure a Sunday league referee might make these mistakes. But in the Premier League? And so blatant? Not saying there is a conspiracy,but this ref sure as hell hates Chelsea.

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Yup, did you see him yesterday "minute 30, minute 33, minute 43, and minute 69" he's a joke and a terrible loser. I wish he ends up with nothing ala the past two seasons.
Those 4 calls decided the game. Could have been two red cards for Burnley and two penalties for Chelsea. I hate Mourinho's antics towards refs, but in this case he is clearly right. If even Alan Shearer starts agreeing, you know it lust be serious.

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Yeah. Yesterday was ridiculous. His players should be embarrassed. That he keeps prefacing these outbursts with things like "I can't say more or I'll be punished" or "if I refer to the incidents they punish me" and other such nonsense is really cringeworthy.

Every coach complains about referees on occasion, but I can't think of another that literally has never admitted that the other team was the better team on the day. I literally cannot recall Mourinho ever not blaming referees or incidents or conspiracy for a negative result.

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This is one of his best yet:




This is so rich, the guy who basically told his last team to go out on the pitch and spend all game attempting to cripple Messi, now wants Hazard to receive special protection from the refs. :lol:
I do disagree with this. Hazard often provokes players into fouling him and puts his body betweenthe player and the ball. Often the challenges aren't maliciuous but the result of Hazard's own playing style.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Everything Mourinho says is for a reason. It may or may not work but I can assure you it is calculated and it is designed to accomplish something.
Well majority of people are already talking about his "bullshit" and not about the draw at home vs a team headed towards relegation.

:agree:

Yesterday's game was pretty disgraceful. Sure a Sunday league referee might make these mistakes. But in the Premier League? And so blatant? Not saying there is a conspiracy,but this ref sure as hell hates Chelsea.

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Those 4 calls decided the game. Could have been two red cards for Burnley and two penalties for Chelsea. I hate Mourinho's antics towards refs, but in this case he is clearly right. If even Alan Shearer starts agreeing, you know it lust be serious.

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I do disagree with this. Hazard often provokes players into fouling him and puts his body betweenthe player and the ball. Often the challenges aren't maliciuous but the result of Hazard's own playing style.
Yes, and I said in my initial post, Chelsea were definitely hard done by yesterday, no arguments there. However over the course of the season, have they not received decisions in their favor, these things tend to even themselves out over the course of the season. When Diego Costa stamped on Liverpool players twice, and didn't get as much as a yellow, Mourinho's reaction was that it was accidental. So obviously the guy is an opportunist.

Also, I'm pretty sure Atkinson doesn't have anything against Chelsea, why would he? It was just terrible officiating, as the EPL is accustomed to.
 

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