Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (61 Viewers)

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rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Just asked this on apparently the wrong thread :lol2:

1. It depends on the installments. You listed Higuain 45 in 2 inst, but so is Pjaca...what about Pjanic, 32 straight or installments? I'm guessing no details about Pogba's deal.
2. Zaza and Pereyra should add to bye bye list, adding 42-43 mil...maybe Isla too.
i think pjanic is just straight money which means that we have around 45 just from pogba money left (unless we save it for next year to pay the other half of higuain). Considering we are going to sell a few players such as Zaza 25m, Pereyra 18m,Isla 5m it should give us around 40m extra on top of that. So if we choose to not save up for next year 45m bill to napoli we have 90mil to spend. If we decide to save up the 45m we still have 40ish mil based on player's sales. This is not including juve's own money tho.
 

Liviu

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Jan 10, 2015
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i think pjanic is just straight money which means that we have around 45 just from pogba money left (unless we save it for next year to pay the other half of higuain). Considering we are going to sell a few players such as Zaza 25m, Pereyra 18m,Isla 5m it should give us around 40m extra on top of that. So if we choose to not save up for next year 45m bill to napoli we have 90mil to spend. If we decide to save up the 45m we still have 40ish mil based on player's sales. This is not including juve's own money tho.
If our aim is to push for CL we can't be saving money and not improve the team. Your calculations point out Juve have the money to get 2 top class - WC mids. Maybe Herrera + other. I can live with that as long as we don't sign Witsel - Sissoko level mids.
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Quick overview of the mercato so far:


15-16 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 56.4m
14-15 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 17.6m
13-14 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 49.6m

so how much more money should be invest in the market for 16-17?
So we currently "spent" about 11M NET.
we WILL also sell(we must reduce roster size anyway):minimum prices Zaza(25M),Pereyra(15M),Lemina(20M) or Hernanes(10M).
we will probably buy Gabigol for 20M.
~ -11-20+25+15+15(average) = ~+24M received

so that leaves us with atleast around 60M to spend imo for 1 GREAT mid(Verratti lol),or two good ones.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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So we currently "spent" about 11M NET.
we WILL also sell(we must reduce roster size anyway):minimum prices Zaza(25M),Pereyra(15M),Lemina(20M) or Hernanes(10M).
we will probably buy Gabigol for 20M.
~ -11-20+25+15+15(average) = ~+24M received

so that leaves us with atleast around 60M to spend imo for 1 GREAT mid(Verratti lol),or two good ones.
Give me rakitic and ill forget about pogba in a heartbeat.
 

Juvellino

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Mar 19, 2015
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Quick overview of the mercato so far:

IN: 157.5m

Higuain 90m (45m in 2 instalments)
Pjanic 32m
Benatia 3m (+17m option to buy based on apps)
Pjaca 23m
Lemina 9.5m
Alves free
Ganz free

OUT: 146.7m

Morata 30m
Pogba 110m (+bonus)
Magnusson 2.5m
Buchel 1.2m
Fiorillo 1m
Gabriel 1m
Padoin 0.6m

15-16 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 56.4m
14-15 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 17.6m
13-14 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 49.6m

so how much more money should be invest in the market for 16-17?
Also we are still paying installments from past deals and some of the deals we made this mercato are in installments. Plus wages and saved wages. It's very complicated is there a way to get a rough estimate?
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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Quick overview of the mercato so far:

IN: 157.5m

Higuain 90m (45m in 2 instalments)
Pjanic 32m
Benatia 3m (+17m option to buy based on apps)
Pjaca 23m
Lemina 9.5m
Alves free
Ganz free

OUT: 146.7m

Morata 30m
Pogba 110m (+bonus)
Magnusson 2.5m
Buchel 1.2m
Fiorillo 1m
Gabriel 1m
Padoin 0.6m

15-16 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 56.4m
14-15 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 17.6m
13-14 summer expenditure of juve's own money: 49.6m

so how much more money should be invest in the market for 16-17?
That is an overly simplistic way of looking at it as you are ignoring wages, amortizations and gains from sales. This year we will book a HUGE profit on the sale of Pogba + saved wages. The 110m is pure profit + 9m in gross wage savings. Higuain will cost us EU33m per year made up of 18m per year in amortization and 15m per year in wages.

Also worth noting that Morata helped quite a bit too. His amortized book value would have been 12m at the time of sale (4m per year over 2 years after purchasing for 20m). Therefore the gain on his sale was 18m + 4m in saved amortization + 6-7m in gross wages = 28-29m.

So far, by my calculations, as a result of the mercato so far, we have 76m in extra costs and booked 161m in gains and savings - net +85m. Of that 161m, 128m are profits from sale of players. Which means the following year, the net drops to -43m but then you have to add back the 20m in profit from Coman which takes you to -23m. Over 2 years, we would require to grow the revenue by only 6% in order to cover that.

Of course, I am not factoring in sales to Zaza, Pereyra, Hernanes to these figures nor am I factoring in additional purchases. If I was to assume that Zaza is sold for 25m, Pereyra 16m, and Hernanes 6m. That would lead to savings (including gains/losses on sale) of 38m of which ~12m would be 1 off gains. If we assume Gabigol at 25m on 3.5m net a year (5 year contract) and another midfielder for 25m, 3m net 5 year contract, that would both amount to additional annual cost of 23m per year.

That would all be well within budget.
 
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That is an overly simplistic way of looking at it as you are ignoring wages, amortizations and gains from sales. This year we will book a HUGE profit on the sale of Pogba + saved wages. The 110m is pure profit + 9m in gross wage savings. Higuain will cost us EU33m per year made up of 18m per year in amortization and 15m per year in wages.

Also worth noting that Morata helped quite a bit too. His amortized book value would have been 12m at the time of sale (4m per year over 2 years after purchasing for 20m). Therefore the gain on his sale was 18m + 4m in saved amortization + 6-7m in gross wages = 28-29m.

So far, by my calculations, as a result of the mercato so far, we have 76m in extra costs and booked 161m in gains and savings - net +85m. Of that 161m, 128m are profits from sale of players. Which means the following year, the net drops to -43m but then you have to add back the 20m in profit from Coman which takes you to -23m. Over 2 years, we would require to grow the revenue by only 6% in order to cover that.

Of course, I am not factoring in sales to Zaza, Pereyra, Hernanes to these figures nor am I factoring in additional purchases. If I was to assume that Zaza is sold for 25m, Pereyra 16m, and Hernanes 6m. That would lead to savings (including gains/losses on sale) of 38m of which ~12m would be 1 off gains. If we assume Gabigol at 25m on 3.5m net a year (5 year contract) and another midfielder for 25m, 3m net 5 year contract, that would both amount to additional annual cost of 23m per year.

That would all be well within budget.
Great Post, made me understand our situation perfectly, thanks.
 

am0110

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Jun 5, 2005
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Its tuttosport but...

TS: "Marotta rilancia, Witsel sempre più vicino. La Juve migliora l'offerta per lo Zenit: si lavora sui bonus. Contatti per Matuidi e Kovacic"
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,970
That is an overly simplistic way of looking at it as you are ignoring wages, amortizations and gains from sales. This year we will book a HUGE profit on the sale of Pogba + saved wages. The 110m is pure profit + 9m in gross wage savings. Higuain will cost us EU33m per year made up of 18m per year in amortization and 15m per year in wages.

Also worth noting that Morata helped quite a bit too. His amortized book value would have been 12m at the time of sale (4m per year over 2 years after purchasing for 20m). Therefore the gain on his sale was 18m + 4m in saved amortization + 6-7m in gross wages = 28-29m.

So far, by my calculations, as a result of the mercato so far, we have 76m in extra costs and booked 161m in gains and savings - net +85m. Of that 161m, 128m are profits from sale of players. Which means the following year, the net drops to -43m but then you have to add back the 20m in profit from Coman which takes you to -23m. Over 2 years, we would require to grow the revenue by only 6% in order to cover that.

Of course, I am not factoring in sales to Zaza, Pereyra, Hernanes to these figures nor am I factoring in additional purchases. If I was to assume that Zaza is sold for 25m, Pereyra 16m, and Hernanes 6m. That would lead to savings (including gains/losses on sale) of 38m of which ~12m would be 1 off gains. If we assume Gabigol at 25m on 3.5m net a year (5 year contract) and another midfielder for 25m, 3m net 5 year contract, that would both amount to additional annual cost of 23m per year.

That would all be well within budget.
Great post, thanks :tup:
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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#TS report that #Juve are close to Witsel while #Repubblica report that Juve want #Matuidi but #PSG seek €38m for him

:ratcafe:

100% this is happening. Welcome Witsel :baus:
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
34,902
Mario Mandzukic is considering his future at Juventus following Gonzalo Higuain's arrival, and former club Wolfsburg are keen on bringing him back to Germany.

Source: Tuttosport
 
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