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    Some pocket money we're looking to make on outgoings:

    Padoin (Cagliari) €2.5m
    Fiorillo (Pescara) €2m
    Gabriel Appelt (Leganes) €1.5m
    Büchel (Empoli) €1.5m

    Also Laurentiu Branescu is joining Dinamo Bucharest on loan.
     

    Robee

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    It depends on the individual doctor! I doubt a club of our caliber hires such an important staff member without being sure of his qualities. A good doctor always updates his knowledge and never stops learning and I'm pretty sure this guy is top notch.
    Yeah, of course. I'm not doubting his knowledge etc. I'll leave it here ;)
     

    Orgut

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    Benzema is definitely very expensive. Unless Madrid want him out he will cost 60-70 mill or so. Lacazette is not superior to mandzukic or morata. I'd rather watch Madzukic have an injury free season and being more settled at Juve and have morata continuing in his development than try a player like lacazette who we dont know whether he is good enough or not.
    Mandzukic is a good player with his particular pros BUT there are cons like speed which is an important attribute
    If we had both I assume Lacazette would bench Mandzukic until mid season because:
    1. He is a faster player which can provide some great counter attacking plays and with our defense it could prove to be crucial against top teams
    2. He is a better finisher - look at his number of goals he scored in the last 2 seasons! I`m not saying Mandzukic is a poor finisher as we all know he is a good one but the difference between good and great is what make you european champion!

    To say overall Lacazette is a better player would be wrong as Mandzukic has some qualities Lacazette do not possess but I wouldnt say Mandzukic is better either...
    As for Morata - Morata is a better player than both of them but he still cant bench Mandzukic because he has yet to develop his menace finishing skills. He could still do it as he is very young and thats why he is worth that much!
    My guess is if he had that great finishing skills in him already he would cost as much as Higuain is rated now

    Lukaku for example is rated this high because of his physique and finishing skills - No one would argue that Morata is twice as talented as Lukaku in terms of other skills and attributes but they are still rated at around the same price because those 2 are very important attributes!

    Cavani is not a substantial improvement over Mandzukic/morata. He is better but not enough to warrant spending that much on him at this age and he is not for sale anyway. You are right 50m wont buy us any proper quality now. We cant get Aguero, Griezman, any of the madrid or barca boys, Higuain, Lewandowski heck even Lukaku.

    Aubemayang maybe :D? (BVB wont sell anyway or he is off to city for more)
    Cavani is way better than Mandzukic! He is probably better at everything! As for Morata - He is better than Morata as well but Morata does has the potential to surpass him if he finds a nose for goal!
    The thing is Morata is way more talented than Mandzukic yet Mandzukic is the starter - You wouldnt pay 50M for Mandzukic but you might do it for Morata...
    For immediate results there is no point denying Cavani is worth 50M and certainly justify splashing the cash
    If you look long term there are doubts as you might want to work on Morata and get a great player for many years!

    As for Aubemayang - He is a good player but he wont do here what he does at Dortmund!
    He is a fast player who can finish but with the defense in Italy he might find it hard here
    As for a move to England or Spain - Yes! he would tear them apart! but in Italy you need something more!
     

    ADP1897

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    Juventus are interested in Cracovia
    Krakow winger Bartosz Kapustka
    (19), who would cost around €5m.
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    @piotrr @radekas
    I'll sign him because of his name, and is he one of Poland's players in Euro16?



    2. He is a better finisher - look at his number of goals he scored in the last 2 seasons! I`m not saying Mandzukic is a poor finisher as we all know he is a good one but the difference between good and great is what make you european champion!
    No... Mandzukic score 20+ goals since his Wolsfburg days. If thats not great finisher, then i don't know what great finisher is.

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    Juventus are interested in Cracovia
    Krakow winger Bartosz Kapustka
    (19), who would cost around €5m.
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    @piotrr @radekas
    They will auction this guy to the PL. His value might be €5m, but you can at least double that for those idiots.
     

    zizinho

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    I'll sign him because of his name, and is he one of Poland's players in Euro16?





    No... Mandzukic score 20+ goals since his Wolsfburg days. If thats not great finisher, then i don't know what great finisher is.

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    He was great in 1st game for Poland, came of the bench vs Germany


    And Mandzo didnt score 20 a year for VW, only when he moved to Bayern and later Atletico did he score 20 or more in all competitions (didnt do it this season either, injuries played a part in that though). When talking about league only, he never scored 20, not even when he played for Dinamo in Croatia
     
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    Mandzukic is a good player with his particular pros BUT there are cons like speed which is an important attribute
    If we had both I assume Lacazette would bench Mandzukic until mid season because:
    1. He is a faster player which can provide some great counter attacking plays and with our defense it could prove to be crucial against top teams
    2. He is a better finisher - look at his number of goals he scored in the last 2 seasons! I`m not saying Mandzukic is a poor finisher as we all know he is a good one but the difference between good and great is what make you european champion!

    To say overall Lacazette is a better player would be wrong as Mandzukic has some qualities Lacazette do not possess but I wouldnt say Mandzukic is better either...
    As for Morata - Morata is a better player than both of them but he still cant bench Mandzukic because he has yet to develop his menace finishing skills. He could still do it as he is very young and thats why he is worth that much!
    My guess is if he had that great finishing skills in him already he would cost as much as Higuain is rated now

    Lukaku for example is rated this high because of his physique and finishing skills - No one would argue that Morata is twice as talented as Lukaku in terms of other skills and attributes but they are still rated at around the same price because those 2 are very important attributes!



    Cavani is way better than Mandzukic! He is probably better at everything! As for Morata - He is better than Morata as well but Morata does has the potential to surpass him if he finds a nose for goal!
    The thing is Morata is way more talented than Mandzukic yet Mandzukic is the starter - You wouldnt pay 50M for Mandzukic but you might do it for Morata...
    For immediate results there is no point denying Cavani is worth 50M and certainly justify splashing the cash
    If you look long term there are doubts as you might want to work on Morata and get a great player for many years!

    As for Aubemayang - He is a good player but he wont do here what he does at Dortmund!
    He is a fast player who can finish but with the defense in Italy he might find it hard here
    As for a move to England or Spain - Yes! he would tear them apart! but in Italy you need something more!
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    Siamak

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    Cavani is not a substantial improvement over Mandzukic/morata. He is better but not enough to warrant spending that much on him at this age and he is not for sale anyway. You are right 50m wont buy us any proper quality now. We cant get Aguero, Griezman, any of the madrid or barca boys, Higuain, Lewandowski heck even Lukaku.

    Aubemayang maybe :D? (BVB wont sell anyway or he is off to city for more)
    if PSG would sell him to us at a reasonable price no poing we should buy him i don't think he would improve our team one bit with big price! we can get berardi but I’m starting to doubt the cavani deal, just shit rumors, we may not be close at all once again.
     

    Itay

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    Are you guys serious? you honestly think that morata\mandzukic, two players that have failed to score more than 15 goals this season, are better than cavani? the guy scored 81 goals in 148 games - and in most of those games he was deployed as a left winger.
    Sure he's getting older, and is not worth 40 million, but he is by far better than these two guys... I like mandzukic but morata already thinks too highly of himself.

    Dybala + Cavani = UCL winners
     
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