Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (31 Viewers)

[Ocelot]

Hmm where you getting this from? I mean any club he goes to there will always be a forward scoring more goals than him and being THE star

Well at Juve he's arguable THE star right now.

Won't be the case at any of the teams he'd go to, if he leaves, so that makes him more likely to stay.

Not sure I agree with the first assumption of Cheesio though

 

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[KB824]

The issue with Pogba has more to do with where he can go, versus where he currently is. If he was this prodigious talent playing for a lower level club, then his ceiling, and therefore opportunities, are much higher.

He is currently at arguably one of the top 5 clubs in the world. Where else can he possibly go? Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona? He is another cog in the machine at those clubs. Are there any clubs in England or France who are better than us? I think not. It's not as if he has 20-25 options out there for him where his lot in life could be better than where he is now.

And that is not his fault. It has more to do with the quality of Juventus than anything else. And yes, I know that those three clubs are currently on higher rungs on the ladder than us, I get that. But again, no matter where he goes, his chance of being THE STAR on the team, if that is what he wants, if he wants to be the leader, are really limited. Unless he takes a step down, and there is no way he would do that.

 

[Xperd]

Assuming Pogba leaves,

Buffon
Vrsaljko-Bonucci-Chiellini-A.Sandro
Krychowiak
Khedira-------Marchisio
Isco
Morata-Dybala

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The issue with Pogba has more to do with where he can go, versus where he currently is. If he was this prodigious talent playing for a lower level club, then his ceiling, and therefore opportunities, are much higher.

He is currently at arguably one of the top 5 clubs in the world. Where else can he possibly go? Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona? He is another cog in the machine at those clubs. Are there any clubs in England or France who are better than us? I think not. It's not as if he has 20-25 options out there for him where his lot in life could be better than where he is now.

And that is not his fault. It has more to do with the quality of Juventus than anything else. And yes, I know that those three clubs are currently on higher rungs on the ladder than us, I get that. But again, no matter where he goes, his chance of being THE STAR on the team, if that is what he wants, if he wants to be the leader, are really limited. Unless he takes a step down, and there is no way he would do that.

You left out the most important thing,

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[Hydde]

I expect Pogba will ask to leave to be honest. Raiola will also push this season, especially if we win the Scudetto. He wants the CL now, and last night will probably make him question his will to be at Juve in order to get that done, but I can assure him right now, he would be wrong to leave us. This team is getting closer to the title with every passing season, with or without him. I would indicate though that he will leave this season, and we perhaps will get Allegri the AM he needs but would also then have to prioritise a CM and RB, maybe even LB depending on what we intend to do with Asa.

like someone said, we most likely will have another transitional year next season. Maybe that will be the REAL transitional year in comparison with this one.

And for the guys who replied me, no we are not on par. Their defence is not flawless, thats a given, but we lack more quality starters and more options on the bench. Guys like morata and pgba are good, hernanes and khedira do not.

 

[KB824]

Assuming Pogba leaves,

Buffon
Vrsaljko-Bonucci-Chiellini-A.Sandro
Krychowiak
Khedira-------Marchisio
Isco
Morata-Dybala

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You left out the most important thing,

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But is money everything? Every time the issue of money comes up with Pogba, this club does right by him.

 

[baggio]

I get the feeling that Pogba wants to be the man, not play second fiddle to anyone. He wants to be THE star so there is hope he could stay.

We can hope that, but Pogba is also a professional at the end of the day and wants to win the biggest trophies. His next move will be indicative of him wanting to play with the best in the world to help him achieve that. It's clear as day he's a Barca and Messi fan, and that's where he's likely going.

The worst part about last nights defeat is he probably saw a Vidal who felt vindicated for moving to Bayern from Juve, and saw them progress, and probably realised that he can do the same by moving to Barca. Sad but true, his thinking is likely going to be along those lines.

 

[Ocelot]

You left out the most important thing,

€€€€€€

That and it's all based on the assumption that he wants to be the star of his team. Maybe he's content with being "just" a very important pice among other very important pieces in another team.

 

[baggio]

More money, a better chance of success, playing with your idols. What's not to like? I'd imagine 10 out of 10 players would want that deal.

 

[Xperd]

More money, a better chance of success, playing with your idols. What's not to like? I'd imagine 10 out of 10 players would want that deal.

If he leaves, desperately hoping it's Madrid.I think we'll get a good end of the deal if we do business with them.

 

[baggio]

If he leaves, desperately hoping it's Madrid.I think we'll get a good end of the deal if we do business with them.

PsG would be the best. Cavani and Verratti. Followed by Madrid, Isco and Moratas buyback clause plus 35m or so.

 

[Cronios]

so, what have we learned from this early CL disqualification?
That are forwards or not prolific finishers and our central defenders cannot seal down the defense when we want to defend a lead.

Rugani and the new CB the defense issue is settled.
Isco is likely to replace Pogba, when Madrid exersise their Morata buy back clause, for more or less the same money Isco will cost us.

So our priority should be to soend the Pogba money on a prolific finisher! Is Berardi ready for that role?

 

[KB824]

This team, in my opinion needs the following, in no particular order.


#1) At least 1 more defender, if not two. Age and injuries are catching up to this unit, and it has to be refreshed. This club is built from the back, and is at its most vulnerable when there are numerous injuries along the backline.

#2) A true support striker. Why, because I think that Dybala can be the primary goal scorer for this club going forward, and if we are not going to have a winger based formation where crosses are a priority, then we need to be able to beat opposing defenses on and off the dribble. Dybala can certainly do that now, but someone paired next to him could cause havoc

#3) An offensive minded midfielder. As if I need to explain myself on THAT one.

 

[Cheesio]

Hmm where you getting this from? I mean any club he goes to there will always be a forward scoring more goals than him and being THE star

I meant that here he's arguably the face of this team, if he goes to Barca, RM. He'll be playing second fiddle to Messi/Neymar or Ronaldo/whoever they will get next. I don't know but from his interviews you get the feeling that he wants to be the best player in the world, have his won tea...

The issue with Pogba has more to do with where he can go, versus where he currently is. If he was this prodigious talent playing for a lower level club, then his ceiling, and therefore opportunities, are much higher.

He is currently at arguably one of the top 5 clubs in the world. Where else can he possibly go? Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona? He is another cog in the machine at those clubs. Are there any clubs in England or France who are better than us? I think not. It's not as if he has 20-25 options out there for him where his lot in life could be better than where he is now.

And that is not his fault. It has more to do with the quality of Juventus than anything else. And yes, I know that those three clubs are currently on higher rungs on the ladder than us, I get that. But again, no matter where he goes, his chance of being THE STAR on the team, if that is what he wants, if he wants to be the leader, are really limited. Unless he takes a step down, and there is no way he would do that.

This.

 

[Cronios]

1 a quality starter, non Italian CB, is a sort of a taboo for our transfer director, we are supposedky interested on a croatian player.

2. Dybala is a fantastic ss and is not prolific enough to get the finisher role, why not let him do what he does best and get the right tool to complement him?

3. True, its prolly Isco coming, but will it be enough to replace our current number 10?

 

[baggio]

Benatia, Goetze/Isco, Berardi, Vrsaijko. I don't know how, but this needs to get done. Forza Beppe.

 

[GarfielD]

Benatia, Goetze/Isco, Berardi, Vrsaijko. I don't know how, but this needs to get done. Forza Beppe.

This, + if we manage to keep Morata and Pogba and we are set.

 

[KB824]

1 a quality starter, non Italian CB, is a sort of a taboo for our transfer director, we are supposedky interested on a croatian player.

2. Dybala is a fantastic ss and is not prolific enough to get the finisher role, why not let him do what he does best and get the right tool to complement him?

3. True, its prolly Isco coming, but will it be enough to replace our current number 10?

Because I think that Dybala can develop into a consistent 25 goal scorer, and if we want to pair him with a more prototypical CF that could potentially score more than that, then God knows how much he could cost. To me, if that is not attainable, then I would rather invest in a true SS who could not only help Dybala develop his potential, but also expand the capabilities of those around him, by bringing more skills to the table than a CF who could at best score 15 goals but not provide much else.

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Benatia, Goetze/Isco, Berardi, Vrsaijko. I don't know how, but this needs to get done. Forza Beppe.

Oh, That's a lotta money

 

[Ocelot]

Benatia, Goetze/Isco, Berardi, Vrsaijko. I don't know how, but this needs to get done. Forza Beppe.

Cuadrado?

 

[Salvo]

This team, in my opinion needs the following, in no particular order.


#1) At least 1 more defender, if not two. Age and injuries are catching up to this unit, and it has to be refreshed. This club is built from the back, and is at its most vulnerable when there are numerous injuries along the backline.

#2) A true support striker. Why, because I think that Dybala can be the primary goal scorer for this club going forward, and if we are not going to have a winger based formation where crosses are a priority, then we need to be able to beat opposing defenses on and off the dribble. Dybala can certainly do that now, but someone paired next to him could cause havoc

#3) An offensive minded midfielder. As if I need to explain myself on THAT one.

Vice-Marchisio as well.


Pogba wont go I dont think, I feel he wants to win the CL here.

 

[KB824]

Oh, and take the option on Lemina as well