Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (65 Viewers)

[Xperd]

Seeing as we already bought Pjanic, there's no use in a debate over an inflated market; it's already been done, while the rest of our midfield barely cost us any money over the course of a few years. In attack only Tevez was a really cheap buy and we lost him for free...

As the CL showed us we suffered without Morata. I'm not denying the importance of Pogba, I'm highlighting the importance of Morata who shouldn't be benched at all.

No, Morata isn't rated as onz of the best? I guess that's why the richest teams in the world are ready to splash cash for him and the 2-times CL winner in 3 years time are buying him back.

Pjanic was an opportunity where we simply got lucky. Roma had a retarded clause and we took advantage of it. Its an exception to the rule rather than it being the norm.

As far as CL goes, Morata was hugely important alright but why are you so certain others wont step up ? This is what i dont understand. Pogba and Dybala will be 1 year better, we'll have Pjanic to add more creativity, we got Alves and Sandro as wingbacks, yet we are going to struggle because we have no Morata now ? And all this excluding the potential replacement who could come in and make an impact as well.

Morata is one of the best young forwards however its delusional to think he's rated one of the best forwards already. Teams want to buy him because he's young, talented and marketable. But his record is nothing to boast about compared to top strikers. Pogba on the other hand is ALREADY rated as one of the best midfielders in Europe. There's a clear difference.

 

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[Bianconero_Aus]

We will get that Batshuayi guy.

Imagine if we get Lukaku

Hope it happens just to see Zach's reaction.

 

[Xperd]

Imagine if we get Lukaku

Hope it happens just to see Zach's reaction.

And Witsel :xfinger:

(had a terrific game against Ireland btw)

 

[Robee]

Pjanic was an opportunity where we simply got lucky. Roma had a retarded clause and we took advantage of it. Its an exception to the rule rather than it being the norm.

As far as CL goes, Morata was hugely important alright but why are you so certain others wont step up ? This is what i dont understand. Pogba and Dybala will be 1 year better, we'll have Pjanic to add mre creativity, we got Alves and Sandro as wingbacks, yet we are going to struggle because we have no Morata now ? And all this excluding the potential replacement who could come in and make an impact as well.

Morata is one of the best young forwards however its delusional to think he's rated one of the best forwards already. Teams want to buy him because he's young, talented and marketable. But his record is nothing to boast about compared to top strikers. Pogba on the other hand is ALREADY rated as one of the best midfielders in Europe. There's a clear difference.

Of course Morata is one of the best in the world already. Else those teams would not be interested in him. The guy played 2 CL finals in three years and the year he didn't his team was leading 2-0 at the moment he went off. You're talking like Morata is Berardi....

Also I'm not saying nobody else can step up but the same goes for Pogba.

The midfield opportunities, well...; Vidal, Khedira, Marchisio, Asamoah, Pirlo cost us a little over 30 mil combined. Upfront those opportunities are much more rare.

 

[Orgut]

Man we agree Pogba is more rounded but you are comparing his current level to players that have bossed the football world for years. Iniesta played as a CM and as always as a very important player for Spain and Barca for almost a decade now. Pogba has potential but I have no idea why you think he is already a better CM. He is more well rounded in his skill set but he is far from being as influential as iniesta or Pirlo were.

Pogba isnt better than Iniesta... Pogba is better than Iniesta in his role while Iniesta has a more attacking role in which he clearly is the better player!
I do not like to compare CB to CF as its wrong to do so! Pogba in his role is better than any others in Pogba`s role! To simplify it for you Vidal and Kroos are comparable Iniesta and Hazard are not - Iniesta might play in a CM position but he is definitely an attacking midfielder there is no point on denying it.

So were getting 30m from Morata and we saved 25m for Berardi. 55m can get us a hell of a striker if we want to. Any suggestions ?

I have one but someone might get punched for it...


As for the guy who said Morata is more important - Stop! please stop!
Replacing Morata is way easier than replacing Pogba
Morata is a great player with great future but he usually start at the bench while he isnt a terrific scorer (I do admit he possess some great skills in him though)
replacing Morata is possible in a 2 ways:
Buying a finisher type of player
Buying a support striker

Batshuayi can replace him (not saying he will be better or not but he can definitely be a quality bench player who can develop into much more)
Lacazette might even take it from Mandzukic
Cavani will bench everyone who`s name isnt Zlatan Messi Neymar Suarez Ronaldo and with this year I have to add Higuain
Lukaku - I`m not his biggest fan as I think his first touch is simply horrible but his stats speaks for itself...
There are other talented players out there...

Pogba - Who can do Pogba`s work as good as him (not to mention he is also a leader on the pitch...) - direct replacement are almost impossible to find as he gives a great attacking and defensive contribution! of course we can buy a few players with Pogba`s money that will actually even make us stronger!

1 on 1 though there is no doubt who is more important and who of them will be missed more

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Can we fill in the midfield gap with 120 mil? Can we fill the gap Morata left with 30 mil?

Yes and no if you ask me. 120 mil buys you almost anyone you want. 30 mil won't even buy you half of Lukaku who is immensely inferior to Morata. Batshuayi is good but he isn't as good as Morata, he's a bench player after Lukaku if you're going that way.

While with 120 mil we can buy 3 and almost 4 x Pjanic.

Also our so-called bench player matched Del Piero's CL record and came in to hand us the Coppa with his second touch.

Lukaku isnt immensely inferior - Morata is clearly a much better overall player but when comes to finishing Morata can bring him water bottles... so it depends how you look at it..
Batshuayi - He is very talented and clearly not as good as Morata but you never know with these young players... He might even be a better player in a few years! It all depends on how he will develop!

 

[Xperd]

Of course Morata is one of the best in the world already. Else those teams would not be interested in him. The guy played 2 CL finals in three years and the year he didn't his team was leading 2-0 at the moment he went off. You're talking like Morata is Berardi....

Also I'm not saying nobody else can step up but the same goes for Pogba.

The midfield opportunities, well...; Vidal, Khedira, Marchisio, Asamoah, Pirlo cost us a little over 30 mil combined. Upfront those opportunities are much more rare.

Dear god, no he isnt. He is in the same boat as Lukaku who is also 'highly rated' due to his superior goal output except that Morata is a better player.

As far as midfield opportunities goes, there's no point bringing up those transfers we made 3-4 yrs ago when the prices were much lower. Yet we could make our team more complete with the Pogba money. I hope we are not selling him.

 

[juventino320]

i smell something burning

 

[Xperd]

i smell something burning

Yes, Penardi fans are burning that he isnt coming here

 

[Osman]

Black Jesus to save us.

Pleaseeeee Marotta.

 

[juventino320]

dont worry, am used to it.

he is not the first lefty you end up out of juve.

if am in his shoes i will do the same, and the two club are very close and work in agreement, i have full trust in our board and if they see him as a needed player then they will get him if not then its fine by me.

 

[Robee]

Dear god, no he isnt. He is in the same boat as Lukaku who is also 'highly rated' due to his superior goal output except that Morata is a better player.

As far as midfield opportunities goes, there's no point bringing up those transfers we made 3-4 yrs ago when the prices were much lower. Yet we could make our team more complete with the Pogba money. I hope we are not selling him.

Every year we signed midfielders around or under 30 mil (let alone 120mil), that's the point. The only attacker of Morata's mould under 30 mil was Tevez and even he didn't have Morata's CL pedigree.

But feel free to disagree. If Dybala injures himself we're fucked.

 

[juventino320]

beside worrying about morata and berardi comes after pogba for me.

marotta said we didnt receive any offers but his agent said negotiation on going, so ho is lying here?

 

[Xperd]

Every year we signed midfielders around or under 30 mil (let alone 120mil), that's the point. The only attacker of Morata's mould under 30 mil was Tevez and even he didn't have Morata's CL pedigree.

But feel free to disagree. If Dybala injures himself we're fucked.

I'm only disagreeing with your notion that we will be able to buy 3-4 Pjanic's with that 120M money. Pjanic was an opportunity, doesnt mean we're going to get more no.of opportunities in the same summer to sign a player of the calibre of Pjanic.

As far as the Pogba-Morata debate goes, i can name 10 strikers that are better than him right now, can you do the same with Pogba ? You are overrating Morata's importance while underrating Pogba's importance at the same time.

 

[s4tch]

marotta said we didnt receive any offers but his agent said negotiation on going, so ho is lying here?

raiola said to marca that he's already spoken with real, but there are no negotiations. marotta said that there are no offers.

football-italia quoted raiola saying there are initial negotiations. their translation from spanish to english went wrong i guess.

 

[juventino320]

lets wait and see.....

 

[Salvo]

Has anyone actually watched Michy Batshitcrazy?

 

[DAiDEViL]

No way we are going to sell them Pogba and Morata in one transfer window.
Beppe also wont do a we-let-you-keep-morata-if-you-give-us-pogba.

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Has anyone actually watched Michy Batshitcrazy?

unban Zach.

 

[juventino320]

No way we are going to sell them Pogba and Morata in one transfer window.
Beppe also wont do a we-let-you-keep-morata-if-you-give-us-pogba.

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unban Zach.

dont be so sure brother, in business anything can be done.

we lost pirlo,tevez and vidal in one mercato.

 

[DAiDEViL]

dont be so sure brother, in business anything can be done.

we lost pirlo,tevez and vidal in one mercato.

It's not the same, Pirlo was done, Tevez wanted to go back to Argentina (we knew he won't be here forever) and Vidal might have been a mixture of him wanting out, and juventus not standing in his way because of his off the pitch antics and injury concerns.

 

[zizinho]

unban Zach.

this. we need the Zacherator to educate all the peasants here