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Hust

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Also worth mentioning that Alves also has a Spanish passport so wouldn't effect non-EU quota
Absolutely lovely.

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G.Jesus it is then.

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Juve with no brakes
Marotta confirms it: Mascherano and Dani Alves are decisive.
Closing in for the two Barca aces, it's done for Berardi.
The Blaugrana: the Brazilian is moments away. The agent: 'Yes, we're dealing'. Allegri: 'Signed? Oui'. Pressing on the Argentinian.
Evra and Morata: Here comes the renewal for the French defender. The plan of the Bianconero sporting director to keep the Spaniard.


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Juve, masked ball [pun on 'Mascherano']
For Dani Alves it's down to the details, the Bianconeri and the Argentine already have a deal and are trying to convince Barcelona. Marotta: 'I'll neither deny nor confirm, but they're both great players'
Marotta receives a prize by De Paola


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Alves one step away, Mascherano is a maybe. But Juve are aiming high.

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Allegri right now...


 

pavluska

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Alves is not a legendary fullback? He is not a barca legend? The guy has been an important player for probably the most successful period for a club in modern football history and has always ranked as one of the top players in his position for almost a decade now.
Peak Dani Alves was a legendary FB if you have a broad definition of legend. Lets say that it's subjective.

We're not signing the peak Dani Alves.

He wasn't always ranked as one of the topmost players in his position in the last decade. In the recent past, that was only the case in 2014-15.

if he can stay as good as he has been for 2 more years then that is a genius move. All we are risking really is his salary and not having a good rotation option for Licht.
For some reason, you're telling me the same thing I said in the post you quoted.

Except he wasn't very good this season. I don't want the same Dani Alves from this season, I want someone better. And with our fitness regime, I think we'll get two good years out of him.

we might have on our hands a fullback better than anyone else in the league by a distance and one of the best in the world for a year or two.
He won't be the best FB in the league by a distance. His teammate Alex Sandro will be better than him...unless we really manage to turn back time with him.
 

Hist

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Peak Dani Alves was a legendary FB if you have a broad definition of legend. Lets say that it's subjective.

We're not signing the peak Dani Alves.
He wasn't always ranked as one of the topmost players in his position in the last decade. In the recent past, that was only the case in 2014-15.




For some reason, you're telling me the same thing I said in the post you quoted.

Except he wasn't very good this season. I don't want the same Dani Alves from this season, I want someone better. And with our fitness regime, I think we'll get two good years out of him.



He won't be the best FB in the league by a distance. His teammate Alex Sandro will be better than him...unless we really manage to turn back time with him.
Only one year amongst the best come on man :D. What other names do you have in mind from the last decade?

There was Lahm for a very long period, Maicon for a short period, Zanetti for a while too (nowhere offensively though), Ramos played RB for sometime but not as good, certainly no player from the EPL (Sagna was never half as good), licht maybe but never as good. He was easily top 5 if not top 3 throughout. Alves was even a beast at Sevilla for God's sake. There is no way you can seriously argue that he was amongst the best 5 or even 3 RBs only once in the last decade come on. Give me some names.

I don't think any barca fan doesnt consider him a barca legend there is no need to stretch the definition at all in his case.
 

Xperd

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Peak Dani Alves was a legendary FB if you have a broad definition of legend. Lets say that it's subjective.

We're not signing the peak Dani Alves.

He wasn't always ranked as one of the topmost players in his position in the last decade. In the recent past, that was only the case in 2014-15.
Maicon for one season was better than him,other that that,he's easily one of if not the best fullback of this generation.You're delusional to believe otherwise.
 

Hist

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Maicon for one season was better than him,other that that,he's easily one of if not the best fullback of this generation.You're delusional to believe otherwise.
:agree: What a weird claim. You can add leftbacks too and he'd still make it easily amongst the best.
 

Xperd

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:agree: What a weird claim. You can add leftbacks too and he'd still make it easily amongst the best.
He would go down as one of the best fullbacks in history just for the amount of trophies he's won.35 trophies ffs,more than Iniesta,Eusebio,Pele etc.

Him and Messi on that right flank were revolutionary.Imagine how many assists he would have to his name if Barca werent playing with midgets.
 

pavluska

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Only one year amongst the best come on man :D. What other names do you have in mind from the last decade?

There was Lahm for a very long period, Maicon for a short period, Zanetti for a while too (nowhere offensively though), Ramos played RB for sometime but not as good, certainly no player from the EPL (Sagna was never half as good), licht maybe but never as good. He was easily top 5 if not top 3 throughout. Alves was even a beast at Sevilla for God's sake. There is no way you can seriously argue that he was amongst the best 5 or even 3 RBs only once in the last decade come on. Give me some names.

I don't think any barca fan doesnt consider him a barca legend there is no need to stretch the definition at all in his case.
Read the part you highlighted again. Because somehow you misread it.

I said he wasn't always one of the of the topmost RBs in the 10 years, that in the recent years (of those 10 years), he was one of the best in only 2014-15. He started deteriorating 2-3 years before that, was good again last year under LE, subpar this season. And he has been poor with Brazil in all those seasons.

Maicon for one season was better than him,other that that,he's easily one of if not the best fullback of this generation.You're delusional to believe otherwise.
Peak Maicon was always better than Dani Alves. They were the best and second-best RBs in the world. Dani Alves was the best when Maicon declined.

I never said peak Dani Alves wasn't one of the best of his generation. I have no idea what you're going on about.
 

Xperd

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The only year where Peak Maicon was better than Alves was when Inter won the treble.Otherwise it aint even a contest.Dont know why people overrate Maicon so much.
None really gives much importance to NT football these days because the quality is inferior to club football.At club level,he's the best fullback of this generation.

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Heck i would take Sevilla's Dani Alves over Maicon except for one season(09-10)
 

Hist

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Read the part you highlighted again. Because somehow you misread it.

I said he wasn't always one of the of the topmost RBs in the 10 years, that in the recent years (of those 10 years), he was one of the best in only 2014-15. He started deteriorating 2-3 years before that, was good again last year under LE, subpar this season. And he has been poor with Brazil in all those seasons.



Peak Maicon was always better than Dani Alves. They were the best and second-best RBs in the world. Dani Alves was the best when Maicon declined.

I never said peak Dani Alves wasn't one of the best of his generation. I have no idea what you're going on about.
Okay so your position is that over the last ten years, he has been consistently one of the best (which was my claim that you seemed to disagree with) but in the latter part of that decade (last 3 years?) he has not been one of the best except once?

If that is your position here is my challenge. Give me the names of 5 Rightbacks in in the last 5 years that were in one single season all better than Alves.

In otherwords, give me one season where there were 5 rightbacks ahead of him and who they were.

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The only year where Peak Maicon was better than Alves was when Inter won the treble.Otherwise it aint even a contest.Dont know why people overrate Maicon so much.
None really gives much importance to NT football these days because the quality is inferior to club football.At club level,he's the best fullback of this generation.

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Heck i would take Sevilla's Dani Alves over Maicon except for one season(09-10)
I think Maicon had 3 great years. The two seasons under Mourinho he was insanely good. He then went into freefall.
 

Xperd

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It seems we still strongly want Lapadula and beat the competition of Napoli and Genoa.Apparently Paratici will meet his agent soon.This according to Sky.

If we get Lapadula,then i can see Zaza being sold.
 

michel

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I think that would be great, Lapadula can easily play as 5th striker. Send Zaza to West Ham/Southampton, and he will probably never play against us again. With Zaza sale we could probably bring in Lapadula and cover Morata’s fee (maybe add 5M).

Just don’t sell Zaza to Serie A team, unless he is included in Pjanić deal.
 
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    5th striker for Juventus is a waste of Lapadula and a terrible career move, Zaza was 4th choice and barely started a game.
     

    JuventinoCL

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    I think that would be great, Lapadula can easily play as 5th striker. Send Zaza to West Ham/Southampton, and he will probably never play against us again. With Zaza sale we could probably bring in Lapadula and cover Morata’s fee (maybe add 5M).

    Just don’t sell Zaza to Serie A team, unless he is included in Pjanić deal.
    My thoughts as well, however I think we would be better off selling Zaza and paying Pjanic's clause in full rather than including him in a deal; like you suggested, so he doesn't play against us.
     
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