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Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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Sassuolo and Fiorentina play offensive football.
Berardi has great stats but this year he sucked hard. those 7goals included with 4 pens. So 3 goals on action in 39games! seriously?
If the fee was 18-20 ok but 25....... way too much
And he won't accept the bench easly. I can already see the problems coming if we bring him to not play frequently.
To bring Berardi we have to switch to 4-3-3 having a trio formed by Berardi-Zaza-Dybala but then we'd need to buy 2 wingers as subs
And still Viola has scored 60 goals while Sass only 49 which is comparable to Inter (Inter has one goal more even).
He also has only 2181 minutes which is around 24 full games. Im not saying he was great this season, but for still 21 years old guy it wasnt bad campaign.
 

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Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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And still Viola has scored 60 goals while Sass only 49 which is comparable to Inter (Inter has one goal more even).
He also has only 2181 minutes which is around 24 full games. Im not saying he was great this season, but for still 21 years old guy it wasnt bad campaign.
Zaza scored the same ammount of goals in a third of the time played by Berardi.
Dude i'm for the "let's focus on the midfield" and then bring a 4th striker which must be cheap and accept the bench and give more playing time to Zaza.
 

Akshen

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Zaza scored the same ammount of goals in a third of the time played by Berardi.
Dude i'm for the "let's focus on the midfield" and then bring a 4th striker which must be cheap and accept the bench and give more playing time to Zaza.
Ok I can understand your point, im just crazy about this guy because I think he has something special in him, but I guess all I can do is to trust Marotta and Paratici judgements.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Zaza scored the same ammount of goals in a third of the time played by Berardi.
Dude i'm for the "let's focus on the midfield" and then bring a 4th striker which must be cheap and accept the bench and give more playing time to Zaza.
And only then you remember Zaza couldn't score a goal to save his life in second part of last season... Form is temporary,...
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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The Pjanic thing looks serious
If we get him it will be for 38M as Roma wouldnt like to negotiate with us...
Zaza could go to Roma but it will be in a separate deal.. Anyway I dont think we are going to sell him and if we will it will be abroad as in the EPL they pay better

Berardi - He has great stats everyone knows that but if you look beyond stats Sansone actually is more important as he is more involved with Sassuolo`s game
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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And only then you remember Zaza couldn't score a goal to save his life in second part of last season... Form is temporary,...
i told ya i'd welcome Berardi if we were to switch to 4-3-3 but actually he is liability for us (money and playtime under Allegri in a 3-5-2...)
Right now we can't waste 25m on Berardi. We simply can't! we need 2 starters in the midfield and THEN a true trequartista.

That said i think Dybala should play that role and that we should bid for Gotze!!! i mean Bayern still own us 24m from Coman! (3+4+21) let's get this one he'd be perfect for us and Serie A!

I'd die for this:
Buffon
Vrsajlko/Lich-Bonucci/Chiellini-Barzagli/Rugani-Alex Sandro/Evra
Gomes/Khedira/Sturaro-Pjanic/Lemina/Marchisio-Pogba/Gomes/Marchisio
Dybala/Pjanic/Gotze
Zaza/Mandzukic-Gotze/Dybala/Lapadula​


2 cm = Gomes and Pjanic
1 cam= Gotze
1 striker= Lapadula
1 rb= Vrsajlko

that's it!

and then Mirante,De Ceglie and Audero for the new rules.

Selling Hernanes,Pereyra,Asamoah and Neto

Out Caceres and Rubinho

Recumpra Morata = 30m
Recumpra Coman-Bayern= 25m
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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i told ya i'd welcome Berardi if we were to switch to 4-3-3 but actually he is liability for us (money and playtime under Allegri in a 3-5-2...)
Right now we can't waste 25m on Berardi. We simply can't! we need 2 starters in the midfield and THEN a true trequartista.

That said i think Dybala should play that role and that we should bid for Gotze!!! i mean Bayern still own us 24m from Coman! (3+4+21) let's get this one he'd be perfect for us and Serie A!

I'd die for this:
Buffon
Vrsajlko/Lich-Bonucci/Chiellini-Barzagli/Rugani-Alex Sandro/Evra
Gomes/Khedira/Sturaro-Pjanic/Lemina/Marchisio-Pogba/Gomes/Marchisio
Dybala/Pjanic/Gotze
Zaza/Mandzukic-Gotze/Dybala/Lapadula​


2 cm = Gomes and Pjanic
1 cam= Gotze
1 striker= Lapadula
1 rb= Vrsajlko

that's it!

and then Mirante,De Ceglie and Audero for the new rules.

Selling Hernanes,Pereyra,Asamoah and Neto

Out Caceres and Rubinho

Recumpra Morata = 30m
Recumpra Coman-Bayern= 25m
Götze? Talk about someone who has done jack sh*t the last few years... And that's not even mentioning his cost or salary. We will not buy a star like him and certainly not one with his self-proclaimed greatness.

Also it's not because Sassuolo plays 4-3-3 that Berardi can only play on the flanks. He's more than capable of playing as a second striker like Dybala (who actually played much deeper in Palermo) and even better together with Dybala in a 2-man attack or together behind a single striker.

The 4-3-and then we'll see as Allegri preaches it.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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there`s no way we can bring both, pjanic and gomes.
YES we can (maybe) :D

Pjanic is paid by Morata recompra
Gomes will be paid in nature

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Götze? Talk about someone who has done jack sh*t the last few years... And that's not even mentioning his cost or salary. We will not buy a star like him and certainly not one with his self-proclaimed greatness.

Also it's not because Sassuolo plays 4-3-3 that Berardi can only play on the flanks. He's more than capable of playing as a second striker like Dybala (who actually played much deeper in Palermo) and even better together with Dybala in a 2-man attack or together behind a single striker.

The 4-3-and then we'll see as Allegri preaches it.
Gotze is still 23years old! he suffered under Guardiola and only warmed the bench. I believe he could do way better under a different trainer/manager
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,326
i told ya i'd welcome Berardi if we were to switch to 4-3-3 but actually he is liability for us (money and playtime under Allegri in a 3-5-2...)
Right now we can't waste 25m on Berardi. We simply can't! we need 2 starters in the midfield and THEN a true trequartista.

That said i think Dybala should play that role and that we should bid for Gotze!!! i mean Bayern still own us 24m from Coman! (3+4+21) let's get this one he'd be perfect for us and Serie A!

I'd die for this:
Buffon
Vrsajlko/Lich-Bonucci/Chiellini-Barzagli/Rugani-Alex Sandro/Evra
Gomes/Khedira/Sturaro-Pjanic/Lemina/Marchisio-Pogba/Gomes/Marchisio
Dybala/Pjanic/Gotze
Zaza/Mandzukic-Gotze/Dybala/Lapadula​


2 cm = Gomes and Pjanic
1 cam= Gotze

1 striker= Lapadula
1 rb= Vrsajlko

that's it!

and then Mirante,De Ceglie and Audero for the new rules.

Selling Hernanes,Pereyra,Asamoah and Neto

Out Caceres and Rubinho

Recumpra Morata = 30m
Recumpra Coman-Bayern= 25m

So not only you want Pjanic and Gomes you add Gotze as well?!
Pjanic might play near another midfielder but if we get him he will be the so called AM we have been looking for so you can forget about Gotze in this scenario...
As for its cost - Gomes 40M-50M Gotze 40M Pjanic 38M Vrsaljko 15M Lapadula 10M thats 143M-153M of spending while getting 7M Hernanes 15M Pereyra 15M Asamoah 5M Neto=42M so approximately overall 100-110M mercato... (Coman is next year) and we have weakened our attack but really improved our mid (quite unbalanced if you ask me)
I rather we keep Morata and not buy Gomes with your scenario...

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there`s no way we can bring both, pjanic and gomes.
You forgot Gotze...

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YES we can (maybe) :D

Pjanic is paid by Morata recompra
Gomes will be paid in nature

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Gotze is still 23years old! he suffered under Guardiola and only warmed the bench. I believe he could do way better under a different trainer/manager
Thats true but what also is true is that Bayern have a new manager for next year...
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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So not only you want Pjanic and Gomes you add Gotze as well?!
Pjanic might play near another midfielder but if we get him he will be the so called AM we have been looking for so you can forget about Gotze in this scenario...
As for its cost - Gomes 40M-50M Gotze 40M Pjanic 38M Vrsaljko 15M Lapadula 10M thats 143M-153M of spending while getting 7M Hernanes 15M Pereyra 15M Asamoah 5M Neto=42M so approximately overall 100-110M mercato... (Coman is next year) and we have weakened our attack but really improved our mid (quite unbalanced if you ask me)
I rather we keep Morata and not buy Gomes with your scenario...

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You forgot Gotze...
We'll never pay 50m for Gomes.
As i see it....

Gomes 30 + (20 bonus in the following years)
Pjanic 38m (Morata 30m)
Gotze 35m (i know Bayern is supposed to pay us next year but you know mate they still own us 25m from Coman they can talk things out imo)
Vrsaljko 15
Lapadula 7m dude Serie B striker and he didn't do that good to be valued that much. Plus he is 26years old not 18-21.

125 out and 30+25 (Morata and Coman) + 7 Hernanes + 15 Pereyra + 15 Asamoah + 5 nedo = 125-97! afforbable !

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So not only you want Pjanic and Gomes you add Gotze as well?!
Pjanic might play near another midfielder but if we get him he will be the so called AM we have been looking for so you can forget about Gotze in this scenario...
As for its cost - Gomes 40M-50M Gotze 40M Pjanic 38M Vrsaljko 15M Lapadula 10M thats 143M-153M of spending while getting 7M Hernanes 15M Pereyra 15M Asamoah 5M Neto=42M so approximately overall 100-110M mercato... (Coman is next year) and we have weakened our attack but really improved our mid (quite unbalanced if you ask me)
I rather we keep Morata and not buy Gomes with your scenario...

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You forgot Gotze...

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Thats true but what also is true is that Bayern have a new manager for next year...
A new manager that told him he can feck off
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,326
i told ya i'd welcome Berardi if we were to switch to 4-3-3 but actually he is liability for us (money and playtime under Allegri in a 3-5-2...)
Right now we can't waste 25m on Berardi. We simply can't! we need 2 starters in the midfield and THEN a true trequartista.

That said i think Dybala should play that role and that we should bid for Gotze!!! i mean Bayern still own us 24m from Coman! (3+4+21) let's get this one he'd be perfect for us and Serie A!

I'd die for this:
Buffon
Vrsajlko/Lich-Bonucci/Chiellini-Barzagli/Rugani-Alex Sandro/Evra
Gomes/Khedira/Sturaro-Pjanic/Lemina/Marchisio-Pogba/Gomes/Marchisio
Dybala/Pjanic/Gotze
Zaza/Mandzukic-Gotze/Dybala/Lapadula​


2 cm = Gomes and Pjanic
1 cam= Gotze
1 striker= Lapadula
1 rb= Vrsajlko

that's it!

and then Mirante,De Ceglie and Audero for the new rules.

Selling Coc Heroin Crystal Meth

Out Caceres and Rubinho

Recumpra Morata = 30m
Recumpra Coman-Bayern= 25m
Fixed
Now we can afford this mercato
 

Catenaccio

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2002
3,363
We should try to keep it simple. Pjanic would really add something to the team. Lets consider him an upgrade on Pereyra - we should try to offload him if we get a decent price - say 15m.

This is simple but effective.

IN:
Pjanic - 38m buy out.
Cuadrado - 10m + Asamoah
Morata - 20m buy out.
De Sciglio - 8m (versatile and plays both sides)

Other Proceeds: Isla for 5. NET ~70m. In terms of Roster: IN: PJANIC, DE SCIGLIO; OUT: CACERES, PEREYRA, ASAMOH

Maybe add a low value high potential DM in the mix to complete the roster. If we want to go crazy, then bring in Black Jesus as well.

But Pjanic on his own, will help the team a lot. I am fairly happy with the rest of the squad as it is especially since players like Dybala, Morata, Lemina, Rugani and Sturaro are likely to only get better next season. I could probably say the same for Cuadrado as well.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
So many people are confident of Pjanic, because of 38m release clause but it seems we keep forgetting about wages. He wants 5m net apparently - he'd be our highest earner if we signed him. This move stinks to me, because we always get a player for cheap on higher wages, or spend more on a transfer fee but wages are smaller. Pjanic doesn't fit the bill in that aspect. The last time I checked, we are at about 70% of our revenue being spent on wages, which is on the verge of being too high already.
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
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So many people are confident of Pjanic, because of 38m release clause but it seems we keep forgetting about wages. He wants 5m net apparently - he'd be our highest earner if we signed him. This move stinks to me, because we always get a player for cheap on higher wages, or spend more on a transfer fee but wages are smaller. Pjanic doesn't fit the bill in that aspect. The last time I checked, we are at about 70% of our revenue being spent on wages, which is on the verge of being too high already.
I agree with this.
It would be big mistake if we give pjanic 5m euro. Our currrent XI will ask raise.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
I agree with this.
It would be big mistake if we give pjanic 5m euro. Our currrent XI will ask raise.
Well, if we want to keep Pogba here, we'll have to give him a better contract. It'll be rather sooner than later. Dybala won't stay for too long at ~2.5m get gets now, that's for sure.

I don't know how much Gomes makes right now but I'm sure we can give him 3-3.5m net and that's within our wage structure. I guess that's the reason we could actually spend more on Gomes than Pjanic in transfer fee (Gomes could go up to 50m with bonuses).
 

Catenaccio

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2002
3,363
Our highest earner makes 4.5m net right? I am pretty sure Pjanic would accept that. Dybala and Pogba will eventually make that too.

Honestly, for the money, its hard to find someone better. When Marchisio returns we could have a mid 4 with Khedira, Marchisio, Pogba, Pjanic with Cuadrado on the bench giving us an option to switch to a front 3 or wingback. He is perfect for us. We should just do it.

Of course, I am making a big assumption on Cuadrado there.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Gotze is still 23years old! he suffered under Guardiola and only warmed the bench. I believe he could do way better under a different trainer/manager
Of course he can but he did reach his ceiling before and therefor he's way more expensive than someone like Berardi who's just as versatile, Italian, knows the league and will fit in immediately. Not to mention he's practically almost ours.
 
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