Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (34 Viewers)

[Valerio.]

That would be good yeah.

If we paid for Lemina i doubt we'd go for Diawara

Just hoping that Pjanic go trough.
Pls Marotta don't fail us and complete Pjanic deal!

 

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[Zacheryah]

What do you mean? Was he playing fantasista – no, he was roaming free-role SS while Vazquez was main playmaker. But you know that, so I assume you're asking – if Dybala was not occupied with defensive work? Yeah, he was, and he improved in this department here, as in all other departments. I am all for Pjanic to come here, he is a wizard, pure joy to watch.
And Gomez at least from couple of games I saw him has all the physical tools to impose his will on the game, but he doesn't do it for some reason. He is tall, strong dude, but doesn't play like one, at least doesn't do it as often as he should have done it. He reminded me Valeron for a bit, tall, physically gifted, but playing in soft football, except that Valeron was local genius and Gomez obviously can run.

If the entire team is fit, we play Marchisio, Khedira and Pogba. With or without a CAM in front of them.

Because Khedira literally has the beez kneez, and Marchisio is injured, we'll have to shuffle alot. Hernanes or Lemina holding the mid. Khedira playing there or not.

We need a player that is high quality on every midfield AND cam positions and has a proven injuryresistant history.



That is Pjanic for you. He can play all positions. deep playmaker, cm, cam. He has very high quality and knows how to handle himself against tough opponents. His versatility is what makes him so very interesting

Holding. So you use Pogba and Khedira or Lemina next to him.
cm. So you use pogba next to, and hernanes or lemina behind him
cam. So you have hernanes/lemina holding, pogba and khedira/sturaro/lemina as cm's.

All these 3 formations are perfectly balenced without including the injured marchisio


Pjanic. This fucking overrated belgian team with Nainggolan played the greatly inferior Bosnia ? Pjanic owned Nainggolan all game. He assisted the first goal, and had the winner cleared off the line by Kompany and was man of the match.


There is no argument. If we can get Pjanic we dont need to look any further.

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So you'd pay 40+ millions to get a sub

Thats absolutely the wrong way to look at it.

1) If we play any kind of cam formation, he'll start it
2) If any of the 3 midfielders is injured/suspended/rotated, he'll start it
3) if for tactical reasons we want more creativity over Khedira's passing and infiltration, he'll start it. (think real madrid going 3 playmaker cm's against City cause City is a joke against good playmaking, and city was a joke all game.

Pjanic would easely play 30+ games

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Pjanic would be a starter if he came. Our midfield would become much more creative with him in it but he would not be a liability defensively like so many attacking midfielders are. His through balls and set pieces are awesome. To start next season I would probably play a three man mid of Pogba-Khedira-Pjanic .. then when Marchisio comes back try the diamond midfield with Pjanic as Trequartista behind Mandz and Dybala.

I like how he started scoring more goals this season so maybe in a full trequartista position he could get 15. I hope Pogba would not cause issue with Pjanic being behind the strikers but Pogba is more complete so he is better as a CM

 

[Cerval]

Damn right I would if we play 3-5-2. We need at least 4 top players for those 3 spot if we want to challenge the big 3. Don't tell me Lemina is there yet sus he isn't. He would but he isn't

I agree with you actually We do need 4 top players for 3 spots. But for me Gomes would challenge Khedira and start over him in the long term.

Thats absolutely the wrong way to look at it.

1) If we play any kind of cam formation, he'll start it
2) If any of the 3 midfielders is injured/suspended/rotated, he'll start it
3) if for tactical reasons we want more creativity over Khedira's passing and infiltration, he'll start it. (think real madrid going 3 playmaker cm's against City cause City is a joke against good playmaking, and city was a joke all game.

Pjanic would easely play 30+ games

He'd challenge Khedira for a spot no doubt and would probably be a starter, I was questionning the logic of the other poster since he values Gomes over Pjanic, but also values Khedira over him. He'd be a good addition, it's just that Pjanic would definitely be the better asset to have.

 

[Osman]

Pogba - Pjanic - Khedira could work for half a season where we mainly facing weaker teams and our RWB is defensively solid Licht, Hernanes plays this role now and he doesn't have an aota defensive ability over Pjanic.

If facing tough opponents we could go with Lemina as regista /DM instead of Pjanic perhaps.


But this could all be avoided if we just buy a real Marchisio alternative and play Pjanic as trequartista instead. But how likely are we to do that?

 

[zizinho]

If we paid for Lemina i doubt we'd go for Diawara

Just hoping that Pjanic go trough.
Pls Marotta don't fail us and complete Pjanic deal!

Diawara has the advantage that he is under 21 and would therefore not take away any spots on our 25 player squad. If we keep Hernanes with Lemina here as well, then adding 2 mids would be very difficult without giving up depth in other positions, and we need 2 until Marchisio returns. Imagine a midfield like this while Marchisio is out:

Khedira Hernanes Pogba
----------------Pjanic

With Lemina, Sturaro and Diawara on the bench. When Marchisio is fully back around January we can either sell Hernanes and keep the same bench as above or keep Hernanes for the rest of the season and loan Diawara out for the rest of the season and bring him back when Hernanes is gone in the summer. If you sign Biglia for example or some other experienced mid instead of Diawara then we would also have to sell Hernanes because there is no room for that many players

 

[JuveID]

Now, keeping hernanes is option. He played well recently or we do not have other option?

 

[zizinho]

Now, keeping hernanes is option. He played well recently or we do not have other option?

Marchisio is injured and it would be cheaper to keep him then to sell at a loss and get a replacement. He also was very good from Bayern games onwards

 

[MikeM]

Personally, I would also lean Gomes over Pjanic. The age and physicality is such a difference.

When you see players with size, speed and technical ability, your mouth just waters. Sometimes Gomes can look like the white Pogba.

Gomes and Pogba in one midfield is pretty insane. Both can transition so well, it's so important in the CL. Either of them can bring the ball out of defence and break lines just with pace and strength alone.

I think Gomes can play counter attack or possession like Pogba. Such a value there.

I wouldn't mind Pjanic either though.

 

[GarfielD]

Personally, I would also lean Gomes over Pjanic. The age and physicality is such a difference.

When you see players with size, speed and technical ability, your mouth just waters. Sometimes Gomes can look like the white Pogba.

Gomes and Pogba in one midfield is pretty insane. Both can transition so well, it's so important in the CL. Either of them can bring the ball out of defence and break lines just with pace and strength alone.

I think Gomes can play counter attack or possession like Pogba. Such a value there.

I wouldn't mind Pjanic either though.

 

[Osman]

Physicality you have a point, but the few games I seen Gomes doesn't seem to be the type to impose himself physically. And age is non starter, difference is just 3 years.


But the rest, Pjanic defenitely superior, he has tons more vision and passing ability then Gomes, kind we miss since Pirlo left. Runs rings around most opponents with the ball too.

 

[Cerval]

'Why not both gif'

 

[italiacalcio10]

Just pointing out we're on page 3-5-2 right now.

 

[AOD4]

With the number of names being linked could it be , we might go for more than 1 quality signing in midfield? On another note, tuttojuve just had an interview with Allegri and he mentioned he never called Pjanic, he has and never will call a player contracted to another club .

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Personally, I would also lean Gomes over Pjanic. The age and physicality is such a difference.

When you see players with size, speed and technical ability, your mouth just waters. Sometimes Gomes can look like the white Pogba.

Gomes and Pogba in one midfield is pretty insane. Both can transition so well, it's so important in the CL. Either of them can bring the ball out of defence and break lines just with pace and strength alone.

I think Gomes can play counter attack or possession like Pogba. Such a value there.

I wouldn't mind Pjanic either though.

Pjanic is the safer bet, spending so much on Gomes who is coming off from another league and at this point of time still an unfinished product is something not so Marotta like.

 

[Hydde]

the pjanic vs gomez is strong here

 

[Xperd]

Or?

Marchetti

Basta - Bisevac - Gentiletti -Konko

Cataldi - Parolo - Lulic

Candreva - Klose- Keita


Kalinic

Bernadeschi - Illicic - Tello

Badelj - Vecino

M.Alonso - Gonzalo - Astori - Tomovic

Lezzerini​

Candreva babyy

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#Marotta on #Paratici being in Rome: "Even if he was present in Rome, the reasons would be different."

 

[duranfj]

Personally, I would also lean Gomes over Pjanic. The age and physicality is such a difference.

When you see players with size, speed and technical ability, your mouth just waters. Sometimes Gomes can look like the white Pogba.

Gomes and Pogba in one midfield is pretty insane. Both can transition so well, it's so important in the CL. Either of them can bring the ball out of defence and break lines just with pace and strength alone.

I think Gomes can play counter attack or possession like Pogba. Such a value there.

I wouldn't mind Pjanic either though.

Exactly my point, for a 3-5-2 Gomes would suit better and there's not just a bit of hesitation.

In other hand my favorite formation for us under Max is 4-3-1-2. In that case I would take Pjanic as an AM but we still miss one CM cuz our prince is out till next year, and even with cheesio back, 4 top MF for 4 spot is way too short to overtake the big 3 in UCL

What I found amusing is that same people who clain how ridiculous would be to use Pogs as AM or Dybala as a Wing, are asking loud and clear for buy Pjanic as our regista

 

[Xperd]

Pjanic as a regista would be disastrous

 

[Hist]

Pjanic as a regista would be disastrous

Why? He doesn't play as CAM for Roma most of the time. He was even playing behind Radja.

Why can Pirlo do it but not Pjanic in a 3-5-2 (apart from the obvious fact that Pirlo is God)?

 

[Cerval]

Pjanic doesn't have to play regista if it doesn't work (although I think it could even if he fits better other positions), he could play in the middle in a more advanced position.