Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (77 Viewers)
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The fact high offers came in for Sturaro is why I think he's more likely to be sold. The fact we turned some high offers down for him at midseason doesn't mean he's off the market, because we generally avoid messing with our squad at that time. If for some reason we want to make room for a new CM Sturaro is the only one whose sale will raise funds to do so. That said, I'm not convinced we'll be adding much to our midfield aside from another DM this summer. I mentioned Padoin because I'm not sure what purpose he'd be serving in a 25 man squad. He did extend, but it's possible that was to collect a fee for him instead of letting him go for free. As far as Hernanes is concerned, lets hope the EPL or China were watching the first Bayern game so we can recoup what we spent on him. The reason I mentioned those players isn't that I think we're selling them, it's that I can foresee scenarios in which we would sell them more easily than ones where we'd sell Asamoah. Honestly, it's hard to know what the transfer plan will be due to the amount of questionmarks regarding players currently in our squad.
Does Pogba have an amazing EURO and get sold? Do we keep Morata? Do we keep Cuadrado? What of Lemina?
The answers to these questions all affect our moves in the market, some more than others. It will be interesting to watch it all unfold.
Does Pogba have an amazing EURO and get sold? Do we keep Morata? Do we keep Cuadrado? What of Lemina?
The answers to these questions all affect our moves in the market, some more than others. It will be interesting to watch it all unfold.
If this is true you can expect us to sell Zaza so we will probably earn about 20M from all of this
If we lose Morata it means another 30M
If we sell Asamoah we can fetch at least another 15M
Coman is another 20M
so we alledgedly have 65M to spend from transfers +25M of our own money which is 90M
Cavani would cost 50M which means 40M left if we get Berardi we have only 15M for a playmaker
If we dont get Cavani but Bathuayi or keep Morata we`ll have 60M which means after Berardi we`ll have 35M
The only way I`d say we should skip on Berardi is if its him or James otherwise we should definitely sign such a talented youngster!
If we lose Morata it means another 30M
If we sell Asamoah we can fetch at least another 15M
Coman is another 20M
so we alledgedly have 65M to spend from transfers +25M of our own money which is 90M
Cavani would cost 50M which means 40M left if we get Berardi we have only 15M for a playmaker
If we dont get Cavani but Bathuayi or keep Morata we`ll have 60M which means after Berardi we`ll have 35M
The only way I`d say we should skip on Berardi is if its him or James otherwise we should definitely sign such a talented youngster!
When will people learn that we don't have to 'raise funds' to sign a player? We don't have to get money from sales in order to sign players we want. We are not Roma. If we want to get a player we will most times pay what it takes and if we want to get rid of some, we won't make problems by trying to get as much as we can. That also means we didn't extend Padoin to get a lousy 2-3M of him but because we want to keep him for another season. He can play CM, RB, RWB, LB, LWB so he IS useful. I don't know for sure why they seem to prefer keeping him over Asamoah and/or Pereyra but it is probably a combination of those two were injured too much (they are supposed to be our 1st options of the bench and player less than 10 games each, which also resulted in overusing our starters), his low wages, his readyness to be 7th choice CM... Sturaro is 23, Italian, and is a player we got only 1 year ago. There is simply no reason to sell him as he fits the role he has perfectly. Marotta mentioned that we need to younghten our Italian core and this guy fits in that plan. Basically to put it short, if we are selling CMs, the prefered order is Hernanes, Pereyra, Asamoah. If we sign a CM and so it seems (Bazoer links now too ^^^), all 3 are gone.
Pogbas sale doesent depend on him having an amazing EURO in the slightest, only on his wish to stay or not. Im quite confident he is staying for sure for next season. Lemina will either be bought or get his loan extended so he is staying. If Cuadrado and Morata leave we will get replacements but that won't affect our central midfield
Pogbas sale doesent depend on him having an amazing EURO in the slightest, only on his wish to stay or not. Im quite confident he is staying for sure for next season. Lemina will either be bought or get his loan extended so he is staying. If Cuadrado and Morata leave we will get replacements but that won't affect our central midfield
you make it sounds like if we would want to buy neymar and messi we could. I dont think we are rich enought to pay the price needed for the players we want and i think juventus still needs a combinastions of a couple sales plus our own money.. instead of not selling and just buying.
why let lemina go? he looks promising
at least more than padoin and hernanes
why let lemina go? he looks promising
at least more than padoin and hernanes
Im not but most of the players we really want we pay what is needed after a round of negotiations. Or I should have said it differently, we pay if we think the player is worth it. But also we won't go full retard and spend 60-70M on players, and those arent the types of players we focus on anyway
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He was but didnt look nearly as good as last season after the injury. Well see but I definitely wont be surprised if both him and Asa are sold and we bring in some young talented CM like Diawara or that Bazoer
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He was but didnt look nearly as good as last season after the injury. Well see but I definitely wont be surprised if both him and Asa are sold and we bring in some young talented CM like Diawara or that Bazoer
I'm not saying we have to raise funds to get our main targets; I'm saying that if we sell a solid backup, it will be for money that can buy us a backup that we view as a likely improvement on what we're offloading. Think of how the unplanned Vidal sale allowed us to get Sandro, except this time for a backup / borderline starting CM. You seem to be interpreting me saying I think Sturaro is likelier to go than Asamoah as implying we are trying to offload Sturaro, which is not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is that if an offer of 20 - 25 mil comes in for him during the summer from some EPL club we're not going to refuse to consider it because he's unsellable. The same applies for Asamoah, however I do not find the likelihood of such an offer coming in for him to be high and he's more useful to us when fit regardless.
In regards to Pogba, his wish to stay or leave most certainly is the deciding factor, however wishes are subject to change and if there's anything that could change his in the short-term France winning the EUROs with him as MVP would be it.
As far as Morata and Cuadrado not affecting our policy regarding CMs, the sentence wasn't intended as an argument, but all transfers affect eachother. How much we spend on replacements if they leave would affect how much we're willing to spend on a CM. Whether or not Madrid are allowed to register players could affect whether or not we have to pay to keep Morata if that's what we plan to do, funds which if not used on him could be used elsewhere. Our management is on a budget and saying "Well, we sold a striker so the only thing that affects is our transfer policy in regards to strikers" is a very simplistic way of looking at our dealings and does not reflect reality. If we sell Morata will we buy a striker? Probably. Will all the money raised go towards a striker? You and I don't know. If Cuadrado is not bought do we buy a treq? A RB/RWB? A treq who can play at CM? More than one of the above? Again, we do not know. All of these things will affect our transfer policy and in what ways we can only guess. Acting as if we know one way or the other is foolish.
In regards to Pogba, his wish to stay or leave most certainly is the deciding factor, however wishes are subject to change and if there's anything that could change his in the short-term France winning the EUROs with him as MVP would be it.
As far as Morata and Cuadrado not affecting our policy regarding CMs, the sentence wasn't intended as an argument, but all transfers affect eachother. How much we spend on replacements if they leave would affect how much we're willing to spend on a CM. Whether or not Madrid are allowed to register players could affect whether or not we have to pay to keep Morata if that's what we plan to do, funds which if not used on him could be used elsewhere. Our management is on a budget and saying "Well, we sold a striker so the only thing that affects is our transfer policy in regards to strikers" is a very simplistic way of looking at our dealings and does not reflect reality. If we sell Morata will we buy a striker? Probably. Will all the money raised go towards a striker? You and I don't know. If Cuadrado is not bought do we buy a treq? A RB/RWB? A treq who can play at CM? More than one of the above? Again, we do not know. All of these things will affect our transfer policy and in what ways we can only guess. Acting as if we know one way or the other is foolish.
Yes youre right about how the mercato might turn out in many different ways, im going with the most likely scenario to me by simply putting few pieces together. It can turn out to be the complete opposite though, but if we knew everything that will happen we wouldnt be here speculating. But that's another story
About Sturaro again, ofcourse hes not unsellable, if we get a crazy offer we might and probably will sell. What I don't agree with is that he's the 1st choice (not counting Hernanes) CM to be sold. We don't have any reason to sell really, with Pereyra and Asa we have as their injuries were quite the problem for us. Ofcourse we might struggle to find buyers for them like Llorente last year, and in the meantime we get an offer for Sturaro and one of them ends up staying, but that's too much in detail speculation which at the moment we have too little information to discuss, but the likeliest scenario is, if a CM is coming, they both leave and Sturaro stays
About Sturaro again, ofcourse hes not unsellable, if we get a crazy offer we might and probably will sell. What I don't agree with is that he's the 1st choice (not counting Hernanes) CM to be sold. We don't have any reason to sell really, with Pereyra and Asa we have as their injuries were quite the problem for us. Ofcourse we might struggle to find buyers for them like Llorente last year, and in the meantime we get an offer for Sturaro and one of them ends up staying, but that's too much in detail speculation which at the moment we have too little information to discuss, but the likeliest scenario is, if a CM is coming, they both leave and Sturaro stays
I only saw Di Massimo from youtube, but dude looks promising. Lots of great goals, and from what i read here he's doing great with primavera team.
I hope we could field Di Massimo - Dybala/Morata - Berardi.
Afaik we have many talented players in our primavera, maybe guy like Lirola, DiMassimo, or Romagna could step up next year? Rejuvenate and save budget for long desired AM for Allegri. After all he's done, he's deserve an actual AM.
I hope we could field Di Massimo - Dybala/Morata - Berardi.
Afaik we have many talented players in our primavera, maybe guy like Lirola, DiMassimo, or Romagna could step up next year? Rejuvenate and save budget for long desired AM for Allegri. After all he's done, he's deserve an actual AM.
Our midfield needs a couple of reinforcements. I think we wont take up Lemina's offer, cause i remember reading Juve want's to extend the loan deal.
We probably will try to let go Hernanes. Then it comes a question mark between Asa and Khedira , do we stick with them who always injured incase we received a high offer.
And Cuadrado, if we don't get to keep him we will get a winger and Sturaro i not sure about him. We also have Isla and De Ceglie returning and Caceres leaving for free to take into consideration.
Pogba, Marchisio, Padoin,Pereyra are confirmed to stay.
We probably will try to let go Hernanes. Then it comes a question mark between Asa and Khedira , do we stick with them who always injured incase we received a high offer.
And Cuadrado, if we don't get to keep him we will get a winger and Sturaro i not sure about him. We also have Isla and De Ceglie returning and Caceres leaving for free to take into consideration.
Pogba, Marchisio, Padoin,Pereyra are confirmed to stay.
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