Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (41 Viewers)

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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1st whats your problem? you obvioulsy have a problem with undertanding things. you keep repeating stuff i dont talk about at all.

2nd if you dont know what land belongs to muslims then why am I even discussing with you :rolleyes2
You are the one that may have comprehension issues. I believe I have been clear enough in my arguments, and I've presented concrete arguments, while as you are shouting and preaching non-existing sense of brotherhood.
:agree: I was just responding to the simplistic rebuttal of Greg's post by Monsieur Zizinho. However, who is going to take charge Fr3sh? A lot of money needs to be invested, and the powers that be are too greedy and lack the desire to share or care for their communities. They always looks at the short term, as opposed to instilling a long term project with sustainable benefits for all.
We will!!
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Right down there.
The bolded part + the quotes.
The small print shows your ignorance on the subject matter and how you decide to speak blindly. For all you know they were monotheist at the time and that is/was MUCH MUCH MUCH futher back then when our "heroes" came to rescue us. Ethiopia is the oldest Christian state my friend, the concept of a single God didn't come to us just after Arabs preached it to us.
Man are you a Muslim or what. and if you could explain me what exactly do you mean by that Africa to Africans, and why dont you like arabs.

now to answer you. the Khalifate is/was the only acceptable muslim country. so if you stand up against it you either dont consider yourselve muslim or you have a damn good reason to do so. im not saying that the Khalifate was perfect at the time, but it was the country of all muslims. the shia 1st tried to intrude their own belief to other muslims and when they failed they wanted to do it with war. im not saying to eradicate them or something as you try to make it sound, im just saying that they decided, long ago, to go separate ways with the sunni (you can see that even today as there is not a single sunni masjid in the capital citly of the "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC" Iran.

who are your "us". do you consider yourself an African or what. Islam was spreaded with preach, not with killing and forcing (like some other religions) and no-one was forced to leave when the muslims (not Arabs, muslims) came no North Africa. they 1st took control over that teritory and then slowly people started to accept islam. You think arabs came by and forced all of you "blacks" to be muslims :lol: then you are in real fallacy my friend ;)

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It is. The irony being that the freedom to choose includes choosing your own death.

Welcome to First World Problems.
nice. people got fed up with all that MTV shit etc and couldnt take it anymore

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You are the one that may have comprehension issues. I believe I have been clear enough in my arguments, and I've presented concrete arguments, while as you are shouting and preaching non-existing sense of brotherhood.
arguments :lol: your arguments are like if i said Juve will win the CL next season and you say "but Messi scores 80 goals last year" you miss my point completely...
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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arguments :lol: your arguments are like if i said Juve will win the CL next season and you say "but Messi scores 80 goals last year" you miss my point completely...
I don't like employing Wikipedia as a source, but man...go read. And yes I do consider myself an African, and I stand by what I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

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who are your "us". do you consider yourself an African or what. Islam was spreaded with preach, not with killing and forcing (like some other religions) and no-one was forced to leave when the muslims (not Arabs, muslims) came no North Africa. they 1st took control over that teritory and then slowly people started to accept islam. You think arabs came by and forced all of you "blacks" to be muslims :lol: then you are in real fallacy my friend ;)
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Let's take women and children, and the descendent will/have accepted their faith openly.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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I don't like employing Wikipedia as a source, but man...go read. And yes I do consider myself an African, and I stand by what I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

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Let's take women and children, and the descendent will/have accepted their faith openly.
well i know there is some truth in that (where all humans after all, we are making errors otherwise we would all be angels) but im asuming this wikipedia article wrote someone who thikns like you it may be a little exaggerated ;)
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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well i know there is some truth in that (where all humans after all, we are making errors otherwise we would all be angels) but im asuming this wikipedia article wrote someone who thikns like you it may be a little exaggerated ;)
That's my problem with you akhee. You are making assumptions. You are jumping to conclusions. Why can't you, on your own go do your research on the subject matter. That slave trade era was significantly bigger than the one to the America's it's a FACT! Then you say Islam was spread in a peaceful manner, which shows how blindly you accept what you want to hear.

I'm all ears, I want progress, I want my people, humanity, to know peace. And that can't be done without the truth.
 
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But I'd also probably have the same reaction if my country's elected president started mouthing off about the bible and how it's going to guide his leadership in the white house.
Your ''founding fathers'' and their cult who are still in power were/are already following a book(belief) other than the bible. They just don't talk about it. Maybe you're saying 'what the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over' but that doesn't change the fact that you're still living in a country ruled by religious motives.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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That's my problem with you akhee. You are making assumptions. You are jumping to conclusions. Why can't you, on your own go do your research on the subject matter. That slave trade era was significantly bigger than the one to the America's it's a FACT! Then you say Islam was spread in a peaceful manner, which shows how blindly you accept what you want to hear.

I'm all ears, I want progress, I want my people, humanity, to know peace. And that can't be done without the truth.
when muslims first arrived in N. Africa they were attacked all the time (ofcourse, they were on others land) and muslims are allowed to enslave people they defeated in war. im not making excuses for them, its not that harsh you wrote it either...
 

TrezJuve

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May 26, 2010
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Canada is paradise tho, proven fact.

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It's ruled by peace.

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when muslims first arrived in N. Africa they were attacked all the time (ofcourse, they were on others land) and muslims are allowed to enslave people they defeated in war. im not making excuses for them, its not that harsh you wrote it either...
You think it is morally aceptable to enslave people, don't be retarded, I see hope in you.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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when muslims first arrived in N. Africa they were attacked all the time (ofcourse, they were on others land) and muslims are allowed to enslave people they defeated in war. im not making excuses for them, its not that harsh you wrote it either...
How do you know?! You just learned about it today! You are willingly deciding to be ignorant. I'm done discussing any further with you.
 

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