Edin Džeko - Striker - Manchester City - Part 2 (13 Viewers)

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Bianconero81

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Which lone striker? Matri? Bendtner? :lol: :howler:

We create chances; the problem is converting them. With Matri/Bendtner there, and Gio with Vucinic supplying support we are still going to be wasteful and lacking in efficiency.
 

Zacheryah

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It is not the right way to look at it.

Both Vucinic and Giovinco play better in a 4-3-3, that alone gives more chances to the lone striker to shine.
The entire team plays far better and secure in a 3-5-2 formation. and while vucinic isnt scoring/assisting as much, he plays a vital role in it.

quag plays his best games in a two man frontline, much better then giovinco, who is about the only player thats really better in 4-3-3. but he is far from good enough to make us change the formation.

If we had for example jovetic and Llorente, then we SHOULD, go 4-3-3. but as it stands 3-5-2 is just plain better considering the players at hand
 

TrezJuve

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Which lone striker? Matri? Bendtner? :lol: :howler:
Both of which would play better, being less isolated than in 3-5-2.

We create chances; the problem is converting them. With Matri/Bendtner there, and Gio with Vucinic supplying support we are still going to be wasteful and lacking in efficiency.
Majority are half-ass chances, no clear cut though. As for the rest of your post, we seem to bring the ball much quicker forward thus creating more chances; hence, having more chances to put one in.

Look, I also like 3-5-2 for what it brings; more possession, more solidity all around, more cohesion and more wing play, but the strikers tend to struggle in that system.

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The entire team plays far better and secure in a 3-5-2 formation. and while vucinic isnt scoring/assisting as much, he plays a vital role in it.

quag plays his best games in a two man frontline, much better then giovinco, who is about the only player thats really better in 4-3-3. but he is far from good enough to make us change the formation.

If we had for example jovetic and Llorente, then we SHOULD, go 4-3-3. but as it stands 3-5-2 is just plain better considering the players at hand
Far better is debatable, we're good in both systems and both brings something different in the end, but I do agree we look more secure in 3-5-2.

Bottom line is, we should definitely consider 4-3-3 more, depending on the opponent.
 
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Yes, but Matri and Bendtner are nowhere near good enough for us to change a winning formation to accommodate their mediocre asses.

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Excessive Bro. :D

How have u been? I see that you have been posting somewhat sporadically ;)
:D

I've been very busy with university but I have more time now despite being in my exam period.
 

Bianconero81

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:D

I've been very busy with university but I have more time now despite being in my exam period.
Good luck with you exams; now get back to studying :p

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I'd see it more like accommodating all of our strikers/wingers, but to each is own.
No worries man. different folks, different strokes ;) You seem like a nice guy :tup:
 

Zacheryah

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Bottom line is, we should definitely consider 4-3-3 more, depending on the opponent.
i agree, but i think its partially down to conte not beeing on the sideline, so we only start 1 formation, wich is the safest.
That will likely change when he is back, altho currently, 4-3-3 offers slightly better offensive, but serious reduced defensive.

We'd play de ceglie instead of awsommoah, and dont really got a central striker. matri/bendter are to bad, quag is better in a 2striker systhem, vucinic and giovinco on the flanks are the only thing that we got set.

and even then, i dont wanna see it against tough opposition.

I'd also want pepe to return for that. PJEPJE, i miss this from russian sopcast. he even learned how to pronounce bonucci :(
 

Hust

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It is not the right way to look at it.

Both Vucinic and Giovinco play better in a 4-3-3, that alone gives more chances to the lone striker to shine.
This.

That's all anyone needs to read.

Everything else is just hogwash.

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Personally I like how some say the 352 is better suited for us yet fail to acknowledge how dependent it is on wingers...that can cross or beat their men...which we don't have...yet they persist on saying the 352 is better...even though Gio and Mirko are better in a 433...these people insist on keeping them in their unprefered positions just for the sake of their 352.
 

Zacheryah

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Your lack of tactical knowledge blinds you from the fact that lichtsteiner and asamoah totally murder the creativity of the opposing team each and every game.

ivanovic and cole from chelsea ? didnt see them entire game, they got domminated. thats what the wingbacks are for in our team.

aditionally, licht brings the ball very high up the pitch, and asamoah had 6 assists in serie a some weeks ago allready.


if we would put in your fancy players, we would lose alot of defensive might.
 

napoleonic

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as i already said:
barzagli - bonucci - chiellini > lichtsteiner - barzagli - chiellini - de ceglie || lichtsteiner - barzagli - chiellini - asamoah || lichtsteiner - barzagli - bonucci - chiellini

defensively spoken...
that is only if you think with man marking oriented defense, modern games and juve's playstyle do not accommodate that, today teams defense with zonal marking.
i agree that 433 might (MIGHT) give us more attacking potential. but i just can´t understand why so many people are so sure about it. just because of ~55 good minutes against 10men of a recently promoted team? i think the 3:0 win (using 352) against the reigning cl title holder was far more impressive...
uhm last year juve dominated milan with 4-3-3, came back from 1-3 at napples and 1-2 at milano; juve playstyle was faster, more intense and rather more unpredictable with 4-3-3.
 

Hust

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Your lack of tactical knowledge blinds you from the fact that lichtsteiner and asamoah totally murder the creativity of the opposing team each and every game.

ivanovic and cole from chelsea ? didnt see them entire game, they got domminated. thats what the wingbacks are for in our team.

aditionally, licht brings the ball very high up the pitch, and asamoah had 6 assists in serie a some weeks ago allready.


if we would put in your fancy players, we would lose alot of defensive might.
Licht also does better in a 433.

Don't expect you to notice though. Hard to tell when watching soccer with a blind fold.

Also, why do you care about asamoahs 6 assists? I thought you frowned on statistics? Don't be a hypocrite plz
 

Zacheryah

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Licht also does better in a 433.

Don't expect you to notice though. Hard to tell when watching soccer with a blind fold.

Also, why do you care about asamoahs 6 assists? I thought you frowned on statistics? Don't be a hypocrite plz
i trew in the asamoah assists so you could understand, you seemb to dig stats.


for me, i just care about asamoah murdering the opposing wing, and making more and better combinations then his opponent on the flank.

Licht better in 4-3-3 ? did you see the chelsea game ? he is as good in 3-5-2, but will only last an houre because of the intensity he plays
 
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