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gray

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Pedophiles to launch political party
Tue May 30, 2006 1:03pm ET15


AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.
 

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Slagathor

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I am proud actually. It's about time someone brought this subject up. Let's have a national discussion on the subject; the outcome is already clear anyway.

Then it's time to crack down on those bastards. Give 'm hell.
 

Boudz

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Aug 1, 2002
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WTF is wrong with these people? How sick can they get? You're just opening the doors for Micheal Jackson
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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gray said:
Pedophiles to launch political party
Tue May 30, 2006 1:03pm ET15


AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.
The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.
These are the parts I don't get:

- Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pedophilia illegal? So aren't pedophiles criminals?

- So that would basically mean the animal has to agree verbally to having sex? I don't think that's very likely to happen.

The rest is just sick really.
 

jaansu

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Seven said:
These are the parts I don't get:

- Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pedophilia illegal? So aren't pedophiles criminals?

- So that would basically mean the animal has to agree verbally to having sex? I don't think that's very likely to happen.

The rest is just sick really.
Good points, well made.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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Seven said:
These are the parts I don't get:

- Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pedophilia illegal? So aren't pedophiles criminals?

- So that would basically mean the animal has to agree verbally to having sex? I don't think that's very likely to happen.

The rest is just sick really.
Yes and yes.

And yes.

Anyway, what I meant was that sweeping stuff under the carpet has never done anyone any good. I say we have a huge national discussion on the subject and destroy this movement well and good. Perhaps in that process some pedophiles will come out to speak their mind, if that happens I'm sure the police will identify them and keep an eye open. Also good.
 

Seven

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Erik said:
Yes and yes.

And yes.

Anyway, what I meant was that sweeping stuff under the carpet has never done anyone any good. I say we have a huge national discussion on the subject and destroy this movement well and good. Perhaps in that process some pedophiles will come out to speak their mind, if that happens I'm sure the police will identify them and keep an eye open. Also good.
It's just that the outcome of that discussion is so obvious.
 

Juve89

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May 27, 2004
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Those people are so fvcking disgusting! You don't have sex with children, and with animals? No animals want to be sexual abused. This sends shivers down my spine:s
 

Seven

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Juve89 said:
Those people are so fvcking disgusting! You don't have sex with children, and with animals? No animals want to be sexual abused. This sends shivers down my spine:s
Let's be fair, they don't want to abuse animals, they even stress the fact that animals shouldn't be abused. If, however, the animal has said it doesn't really mind, they can go for it :D. I guess we shouldn't be talking about "if" but about "when" the first trial about a dog that claims to have been raped hits the headlines.
 

Bozi

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Seven said:
These are the parts I don't get:

- Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pedophilia illegal? So aren't pedophiles criminals?

- So that would basically mean the animal has to agree verbally to having sex? I don't think that's very likely to happen.

The rest is just sick really.
good point seven, why not let them form the party.then bust their yearly convention and take them all out of the equation...animals
 
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Seven said:
Let's be fair, they don't want to abuse animals, they even stress the fact that animals shouldn't be abused. If, however, the animal has said it doesn't really mind, they can go for it :D. I guess we shouldn't be talking about "if" but about "when" the first trial about a dog that claims to have been raped hits the headlines.
"Your Honour, that bitch is outright lying!" :shifty:
 

Akerman

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Oct 20, 2005
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Everyone should have the right to form a political party, that's fundamental in a democracy, even if we don't agree with their statements.

Pedophilia isn't illigal. Pedophilia is a sexual agenda, just like homosexuality. It can't be cured. Being a pedophile doesn't mean you have yet done sexual assault on under aged children.

Hopefully no one will vote for them, and I don't even think free train trips (one of their propositions) will fish them any votes.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Akerman said:
Everyone should have the right to form a political party, that's fundamental in a democracy, even if we don't agree with their statements.

Pedophilia isn't illigal. Pedophilia is a sexual agenda, just like homosexuality. It can't be cured. Being a pedophile doesn't mean you have yet done sexual assault on under aged children.

Hopefully no one will vote for them, and I don't even think free train trips (one of their propositions) will fish them any votes.
Well, pedophilia is indeed legal if you:

- do not touch children

- do not watch pornography that involves children

The people who are forming this political party want to be able to do both. Therefore they're wrong in saying they're not criminals. Sorry to destroy that nice theory of yours though :D.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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On another note, an article by Il Corriere della Sera about this will be great for my oral exam. Let's all be disgusted together and give me good grades :D
 
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