Dušan Vlahović (88 Viewers)

How many goals this season? All competitions.


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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Maybe just money ruined him...
Sure we can apply logic that he is ruined because of money or pressure or whatever.

But why isn’t yildiz oerforming? Why is conceicao inconsistent? Why both new signings of Koop and Luiz struggling? Why is cambiaso struggling after a nice start to the season?

Is it not more logical the coach is the problem if almost entire squad is struggling?
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
You have a point but as I said, he forget basics of playing football and that is for sure not on coach.
disagree my friend.

moise kean stats for juve last few years: 82 matches played 14 goals scored

moise kean for fiorentina this season: 23 matches 15 goals scored

how is it that a player like moise who you could also say "forgot" basics of football can score more goals in half a season than 3 entire seasons at juve?

imo this is proof coaching is everything for most players except elites like ronaldo or messi. and even they had good role model coaches to make them into the legends they are today
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
2,005
disagree my friend.

moise kean stats for juve last few years: 82 matches played 14 goals scored

moise kean for fiorentina this season: 23 matches 15 goals scored

how is it that a player like moise who you could also say "forgot" basics of football can score more goals in half a season than 3 entire seasons at juve?

imo this is proof coaching is everything for most players except elites like ronaldo or messi. and even they had good role model coaches to make them into the legends they are today
Moist didnt get a lot of chances with allegri and I would not say that he was that bad when he played. He also had a lot of bad luck scoring goals from offside. But ok, maybe after that we can say that they both are not meant for a big club? Pressure and bad coaching made them both useless.so eather way its on player and coach.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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disagree my friend.

moise kean stats for juve last few years: 82 matches played 14 goals scored

moise kean for fiorentina this season: 23 matches 15 goals scored

how is it that a player like moise who you could also say "forgot" basics of football can score more goals in half a season than 3 entire seasons at juve?

imo this is proof coaching is everything for most players except elites like ronaldo or messi. and even they had good role model coaches to make them into the legends they are today
Was Immobile badly coached as well? He wasn't able to hack it anywhere except at a mid-table team like Lazio..

Some players also tend to find their comfort zone in mid-tier, low pressure environment teams too. Not everything is always down to coaching.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Was Immobile badly coached as well? He wasn't able to hack it anywhere except at a mid-table team like Lazio..

Some players also tend to find their comfort zone in mid-tier, low pressure environment teams too. Not everything is always down to coaching.
sure, thats a good point. many players are not cut for a big team

but my point here isn't just vlahovic. yildiz, koop, luiz all suffering. cambiaso form has been bad after a stong start. conceicao is inconsistent.

too many players not prforming to me is on the coach. something must be broken badly if all the players suck at once. cost wise it's cheaper to fire a coach than an entire team.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,238
sure, thats a good point. many players are not cut for a big team

but my point here isn't just vlahovic. yildiz, koop, luiz all suffering. cambiaso form has been bad after a stong start. conceicao is inconsistent.

too many players not prforming to me is on the coach. something must be broken badly if all the players suck at once. cost wise it's cheaper to fire a coach than an entire team.
U would sack coach just to keep that bum?
 

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