Douglas Luiz (38 Viewers)

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,832
Who? At least someone like Murdyk or Antony PLAY GAMES.
Higuain to Milan (€18M for a 6 month loan lol)
Pjanic to Barca (the less said the better)
Di Maria to Union (near €100M signing left within a year)
Chelsea and other pl teams made a lot of signings over the years for insane fees who were all complete trash

In comparison, €28M + two young players going the other way who also flopped is not that bad in comparison but defo biggest JJ flop tho along with Arthur and Jorge Martinez
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Higuain to Milan (€18M for a 6 month loan lol)
Pjanic to Barca (the less said the better)
Di Maria to Union (near €100M signing left within a year)
Chelsea and other pl teams made a lot of signings over the years for insane fees who were all complete trash

In comparison, €28M + two young players going the other way who also flopped is not that bad in comparison but defo biggest JJ flop tho along with Arthur and Jorge Martinez

The extent you go to to defend guintoli
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Higuain to Milan (€18M for a 6 month loan lol)
Pjanic to Barca (the less said the better)
Di Maria to Union (near €100M signing left within a year)
Chelsea and other pl teams made a lot of signings over the years for insane fees who were all complete trash

In comparison, €28M + two young players going the other way who also flopped is not that bad in comparison but defo biggest JJ flop tho along with Arthur and Jorge Martinez
I consider him a 70M Euro flop because that is what his Transfermarkt value was when we bought him.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I consider him a 70M Euro flop because that is what his Transfermarkt value was when we bought him.
How does subjective value on transfermarkt make him the biggest flop in world football? You're reaching here.

There are players who were signed for way more and flopped just as harder if not more over the last 10-15 years.

But he's definitely a contender for biggest JJ flop.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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Hate to say it but you don’t sell a player of 50m who you just signed in a deal where two irrelevant players were sold for 16m and after 4 months where he missed 11 games and only had ~350 minutes due to the injuries. Sounds like nonsense, really United type of rhetorics and they’re 13th place nowadays. That with Luiz being one of the better midfielders in the PL last year while we had deadwood like Miretti and Rabiot, those injuries are a anomaly on his injury record aswel.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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How does subjective value on transfermarkt make him the biggest flop in world football? You're reaching here.

There are players who were signed for way more and flopped just as harder if not more over the last 10-15 years.

But he's definitely a contender for biggest JJ flop.
Still some way off of being as bad as Arthur. At least we might get a return on Douglas, Arthur is a complete loss.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,997
Id settle with loan + obligation. Otherwise keep him until the summer. One thing is clear, he needs to play as far as away from our goal as possible. Maybe AM role would suit him more. Koop has to play further behind. His lack of flair is apparent.
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
10,608
Hate to say it but you don’t sell a player of 50m who you just signed in a deal where two irrelevant players were sold for 16m and after 4 months where he missed 11 games and only had ~350 minutes due to the injuries. Sounds like nonsense, really United type of rhetorics and they’re 13th place nowadays. That with Luiz being one of the better midfielders in the PL last year while we had deadwood like Miretti and Rabiot, those injuries are a anomaly on his injury record aswel.
Totally, its Barca level of management if we sell him after he has played 300 mins.
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,413
Id settle with loan + obligation. Otherwise keep him until the summer. One thing is clear, he needs to play as far as away from our goal as possible. Maybe AM role would suit him more. Koop has to play further behind. His lack of flair is apparent.
But this guy can’t be our first line of gegenpressing…. He is absolutely careless and joggs around. If there is a chance to get rid of him, do it! Some PL teams should still value him


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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,997
But this guy can’t be our first line of gegenpressing…. He is absolutely careless and joggs around. If there is a chance to get rid of him, do it! Some PL teams should still value him


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We dont press well, maybe we should stand off and exploit the space left behind. We have been hit on counters far too many times this season when we try to press. It is true he has played very few minutes so far to completely give up on him.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
74,887
Celtic signed CB Rafael Scheidt on the basis that he'd got a Brazil cap. Sold a dummy and we paid huge money for him. I remember him playing one game and he ducked under a cross leading to us conceding.

That name as well...Rafael Scheidt. In Glasgow.
Just needed to find a player called Pish to play alongside him.
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
14,565
Hate to say it but you don’t sell a player of 50m who you just signed in a deal where two irrelevant players were sold for 16m and after 4 months where he missed 11 games and only had ~350 minutes due to the injuries. Sounds like nonsense, really United type of rhetorics and they’re 13th place nowadays. That with Luiz being one of the better midfielders in the PL last year while we had deadwood like Miretti and Rabiot, those injuries are a anomaly on his injury record aswel.
Agree!

Motta needs to make something to "recover" the form of DL, after all he didnt just forgot to play, and we payed to much money to let him go 6 months later.
 

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