Domenico Berardi (24 Viewers)

[DAiDEViL]

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[zizinho]

I know, and i would not be mad at him doing that as long as we win.... but people here "wants to see him scoring" because he is the idol and any suggestion involving otherwise will be rejected. Anyways, they kind of have a point, as he is our top scorer and his shots are really dangerous.... but if by moving him to the left would make another real goal scorer specialist score way more goals while leaving dybala with less goals and more assists, it would be worth a try.

For me , what matters is that we win... not who scores and who assists.

So you would adjust our top scorer and top assister to fit in Berardi? If we want to fit Berardi in we need to find a way to do so without sacrificing our current best offensive player. The only way I see it is by playing Berardi behind 2 strikers. Everything else will be a mistake

 

[juventino320]

ofc we are talking that IF berardi is coming, if we sign an AM like oscar, isco or what ever it is then it will be very hard to berardi to fit in.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

So you would adjust our top scorer and top assister to fit in Berardi? If we want to fit Berardi in we need to find a way to do so without sacrificing our current best offensive player. The only way I see it is by playing Berardi behind 2 strikers. Everything else will be a mistake

Berardi as an AM would be an interesting idea. Has the vision, passing range, physique and skill to play there. It's worth a try.

 

[Trequartista]

His first touch tends to be quite heavy though, he'll have to improve on that. He's also not used to play with his back facing the goal, which you have to do a lot as an AM.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Yeah I think he is obviously best as an inside forward/winger deal that he plays at Sassuolo. But we don't play that way, so Allegri has to, and no doubt will, find the best way to utilise him. 21 years of age with over 30 goals and 40 assists (or whatever it is) in Serie A...this boys potential is massive, and I really do hope these reports are true.

 

[zizinho]

Berardi as an AM would be an interesting idea. Has the vision, passing range, physique and skill to play there. It's worth a try.

Absolutely worth a try. We don't play with winger often enough for him to get serious playing time there so his best shot at playing regularly is at AM. To rotate with our other strikers where he would be behind Dybala, Mandzukic and Morata (if he stays) wont get him as much playing time as we would all like. He has the necessary characteristics to play AM and with a coach like Allegri he should be able to adapt there

 

[.zero]

Fuck Berardi

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fuck Berardi

Damn son

 

[kao_ray]

So you would adjust our top scorer and top assister to fit in Berardi? If we want to fit Berardi in we need to find a way to do so without sacrificing our current best offensive player. The only way I see it is by playing Berardi behind 2 strikers. Everything else will be a mistake

I think there is a chance to play with 3 offensive players upfront with different roles. Best line up will be something like

Morata
Dybala - Berardi

or

Mandzu
Dybala - Cuadrado​

If Cuadrado and Morata leave, we can still use 3 forward line up.

Mandzu
Dybala - Berardi

or

Zaza
Sandro - Berardi​

And so on. I think this is the last chance for Berardi to have any success with us and I wish him well. There will be plenty of room for him to play.

 

[Hydde]

So you would adjust our top scorer and top assister to fit in Berardi? If we want to fit Berardi in we need to find a way to do so without sacrificing our current best offensive player. The only way I see it is by playing Berardi behind 2 strikers. Everything else will be a mistake

I said a prolific goal scorer specialist who scores more than dybala and who would be worth the tactical switch (ie. Cavani if he comes). And I dont think berardi as a CF.

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Berardi as an AM would be an interesting idea. Has the vision, passing range, physique and skill to play there. It's worth a try.

 

[.zero]

Damn son

I just can't get caught up discussing a player that isn't officially on our books

Let's instead talk about Asabob being our new Pepe or how Morata should be deployed like Matri was during his trophy runs with Juve

 

[zizinho]

I said a prolific goal scorer specialist who scores more than dybala and who would be worth the tactical switch (ie. Cavani if he comes). And I dont think berardi as a CF.

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I thought youre suggesting 4321 with Dybala on the left? But I don't see a player who would force Dybala to play more to the left so your suggestion was kinda weird.

 

[Hydde]

I thought youre suggesting 4321 with Dybala on the left? But I don't see a player who would force Dybala to play more to the left so your suggestion was kinda weird.

Yes, i was meaning that...but it was replying to an idea posted by Daidevil, which i would do only in an extreme case to fit Cavani in the center and Berardi on the right.

Still, i woudnt do that for the reasons i explained some pages about Dybala´s stats with his left foot, and because i see Berardi way more apt to adapt to a left winger/FW role than dybala.

BUT, what i wanted to mean is , if that for some arcane reason, fielding dybala on the left, Cavani in the center and Berardi on the right makes us play way better than now, and makes our main goalscorer (Cavani/Morata) score more than 20 goals in the league for example... i would make the switch without thinking twice, even if it means Dybala scoring less.

This is unreal and will never happen most likely, but im just giving an example that what i care about is our results and our team funcitoning properly, not where someone plays.

All for the team.

 

[zizinho]

Got you now

 

[Hydde]

Anyways, i dont see dybala as an out and out goalscorer and i would not like to use him like that. I would prefer to have a specialist there and Dybala supporting him, as he is technically gifted like an SS should be.

 

[Hust]

Anyways, i dont see dybala as an out and out goalscorer and i would not like to use him like that. I would prefer to have a specialist there and Dybala supporting him, as he is technically gifted like an SS should be.

I agree with you. Get me Cavani and support him with dybala an berardi. Ay dios mio.

 

[Post Ironic]

Yes, i was meaning that...but it was replying to an idea posted by Daidevil, which i would do only in an extreme case to fit Cavani in the center and Berardi on the right.

Still, i woudnt do that for the reasons i explained some pages about Dybala´s stats with his left foot, and because i see Berardi way more apt to adapt to a left winger/FW role than dybala.

BUT, what i wanted to mean is , if that for some arcane reason, fielding dybala on the left, Cavani in the center and Berardi on the right makes us play way better than now, and makes our main goalscorer (Cavani/Morata) score more than 20 goals in the league for example... i would make the switch without thinking twice, even if it means Dybala scoring less.

This is unreal and will never happen most likely, but im just giving an example that what i care about is our results and our team funcitoning properly, not where someone plays.

All for the team.

Without injury DYbala was on pace for 20 goals in the league this year... So that negates your theory.

He has 14 league goals in 2095 minutes... A full season is around 3000-3200 minutes. Players like Pogba and Higuain have played 2600 minutes already.

Dybala was on pace for 20-21 goals in 3000 minutes this year. In his very first year at Juve.

He could easily be our main goalscorer.

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The goals scored/game played by our forwards have actually increased every single year since our first scudetto.

2011-12: 43 games - 31 goals 0.721 goals/game
2012-13: 53 games - 47 goals 0.887 goals/game
2013-14: 55 games - 51 goals 0.927 goals/game
2014-15: 57 games - 57 goals 1.000 goals/game
2015-16: 44 games - 46 goals 1.045 goals/game


Impressive to see.

As a percentage of total goals scored:

2015-16: 46 of 78 or 59%
2014-15: 57 of 104 or 54.8%
2013-14: 51 of 106 or 48.1%
2012-13: 47 of 97 or 48.4%
2011-12: 31 of 77 or 40.3%

It's nice to see that each year our forwards are doing more of the work as far as scoring goals goes.

 

[Hydde]

Without injury DYbala was on pace for 20 goals in the league this year... So that negates your theory.

He has 14 league goals in 2095 minutes... A full season is around 3000-3200 minutes. Players like Pogba and Higuain have played 2600 minutes already.

Dybala was on pace for 20-21 goals in 3000 minutes this year. In his very first year at Juve.

He could easily be our main goalscorer.

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The goals scored/game played by our forwards have actually increased every single year since our first scudetto.

2011-12: 43 games - 31 goals 0.721 goals/game
2012-13: 53 games - 47 goals 0.887 goals/game
2013-14: 55 games - 51 goals 0.927 goals/game
2014-15: 57 games - 57 goals 1.000 goals/game
2015-16: 44 games - 46 goals 1.045 goals/game


Impressive to see.

As a percentage of total goals scored:

2015-16: 46 of 78 or 59%
2014-15: 57 of 104 or 54.8%
2013-14: 51 of 106 or 48.1%
2012-13: 47 of 97 or 48.4%
2011-12: 31 of 77 or 40.3%

It's nice to see that each year or forwards are doing more of the work as far as scoring goals goes.

Well, sadly he got injured so we will never know. I dont think it invalidates my argument since we dont know how he would have ended. He could very well have fallen in a drought of goals and finish with 17 or so. Which is still impressive but i would prefer a specialist to be our speahead.

What i want to point out is that i prefer a specialist CF like Trez, Cavani or Ibra..who have the physique to score goals from open play or from crosses....than a little dude like Dybala. IMO Dybala is much better creating the play , running at players from 3/4 and shooting than hustling with defenders in the area for a header goal or a tap in. Is not that he cannot, but i think others can do that better while he can focus on what he does best which is in open play.

About our goalscoring record, yes is very good. But it comes as no surprise since we have been reinforcing our offensive departments since that season steadily. We went from Matri,Gio, Quags Vuci.......to the likes of Llorente (before he crapped), Morata, tevez, Mandz, Zaza, Dybala...players with real goalscoring treat.

We are not a powerhouse yet but we could be there with the right moves.

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I agree with you. Get me Cavani and support him with dybala an berardi. Ay dios mio.

Dybala and Berardi supporting Cavani/Morata would be my ultimate fappsteiner dream.

 

[Post Ironic]

Well, sadly he got injured so we will never know. I dont think it invalidates my argument since we dont know how he would have ended. He could very well have fallen in a drought of goals and finish with 17 or so. Which is still impressive but i would prefer a specialist to be our speahead.

What i want to point out is that i prefer a specialist CF like Trez, Cavani or Ibra..who have the physique to score goals from open play or from crosses....than a little dude like Dybala. IMO Dybala is much better creating the play , running at players from 3/4 and shooting than hustling with defenders in the area for a header goal or a tap in. Is not that he cannot, but i think others can do that better while he can focus on what he does best which is in open play.

About our goalscoring record, yes is very good. But it comes as no surprise since we have been reinforcing our offensive departments since that season steadily. We went from Matri,Gio, Quags Vuci.......to the likes of Llorente (before he crapped), Morata, tevez, Mandz, Zaza, Dybala...players with real goalscoring treat.

We are not a powerhouse yet but we could be there with the right moves.

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Dybala and Berardi supporting Cavani/Morata would be my ultimate fappsteiner dream.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want Dybala playing as a traditional CF... but he could easily be a 20+ league goal scorer per year, like an Aguero. He could easily be our top goalscorer like Aguero has been for every team he plays. He plays quite a similar style this year to Aguero.

Yes, you want to partner him with another good goalscorer. But I'd hope Morata will develop into that...

What I'm trying to say is that we don't necessarily need another 20+ league goal scorer. We can be great with Dybala scoring Aguero like numbers 20-25 league goals, and a CF scoring another 15-20 league goals. I'd like to see our top 2 forwards scoring combined 40 goals in the league or more each year. And our rotation options adding another 10 or so. If our forwards combined can be scoring at 1.25 goals/game played in all competitions while we maintain defensive solidity and midfield contributions, I have no doubt that we will pick up another CL title soon.